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I'm sick of it, Bush Bashing
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post Aug 30 2004, 08:11 AM
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I'm really getting tired of all this crap about George Bush. Lately, I've heard the word "evil" attributed to him rather than to Saddam, Bin Laden, Kim Il Jong, etc. He's been called a liar and a traitor by some dems, when they had no proof to back up their claims. I hate how people are saying that he's the reason why we're not so tight with the French anymore, when in fact, there's evidence to show that Saddam bribed the French with oil, meaning it was them who were the corrupt backstabbers. Why is this man hated so much when he's just trying to protect the United States of America?
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 08:16 AM
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I do agree with you.
He isn't "evil" like people say he is.
Sure, he may have made a few mistakes, but that's no reason to call him "evil." Everyone makes mistakes.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 08:47 AM
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Why is this man hated so much when he's just trying to protect the United States of America?[/QUOTE]


I think the war on iraq is a huge factor in this "bush sucks" thing............i mean i'm not in favor of the iraq war..... all da bashing probaly would have stopped a while ago had Bush constructed a plan to acheive peace in iraq before he rushed into war ........but yea ..............i dont no
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 01:31 PM
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http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/08252004_...forgenazis.html

American Nazis are planning to gather in Valley Forge, PA shortly before the election to protest Bush. Members, including one Minnesota regional chair, have called Bush's administration a "corrupt dictatorship". When you are so corrupt that you scare Nazis, you know something's wrong.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 02:03 PM
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Hillary Clinton says that she hope the whole [Bush] Administration will be fired on Nov 2nd, which kind of made my eyes twitch in annoyance. ermm.gif
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 02:05 PM
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Hillary is much worse than Bush.

She makes Ann Coulter look sane.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 02:28 PM
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No, he's not evil. He's a ding dong retard.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 30 2004, 1:31 PM)
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/08252004_...forgenazis.html

American Nazis are planning to gather in Valley Forge, PA shortly before the election to protest Bush. Members, including one Minnesota regional chair, have called Bush's administration a "corrupt dictatorship". When you are so corrupt that you scare Nazis, you know something's wrong.

something is wrong with the nazis.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 02:36 PM
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I know. It's getting really annoying

I want Bush to be re-elected anywho. I believe there are second chances for people, and he needs a second chance to fix his mistakes. He's jsut human, you know.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 06:17 PM
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The simple fact is, only maybe 5% (and that's being generous) of the people riding the Hate Bush Bandwagon know why they're along for the trip.

The rest of them are simply cattle who see a television commercial and will automatically base their vote in November accordingly.

That's the sad thing about American politics -- the bandwagon jumpers. It happens on both sides of the candidacy.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(WhiteLotus* @ Aug 30 2004, 2:36 PM)
I know. It's getting really annoying

I want Bush to be re-elected anywho.  I believe there are second chances for people, and he needs a second chance to fix his mistakes.  He's jsut human, you know.

Oh, that's real nice of you. Almost made me want to cry, it was so beautiful. cry.gif



Maybe not. rolleyes.gif

Go ahead vote for him, so he and Chenney can go and get thousands of more people killed. If Bush did ALL this knowing that he risked not being re-elected, imagine what he will do if he gets another term.

Ignorance is not your friend.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 30 2004, 5:24 PM)
Ignorance is not your friend.

No, but it seems to be yours.

Maybe you should back some of your arguments with a little more credible reinforcement than your own soiled opinion. kthx.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(CrackedRearView @ Aug 30 2004, 6:33 PM)
No, but it seems to be yours.

Maybe you should back some of your arguments with a little more credible reinforcement than your own soiled opinion. kthx.

These aren't my opinions.

The war has finally been accepted by EVERYBODY (even Bush himself now) as a mistake.

Considering his first term, is it illogical to think that Bush's second term will follow the same trend? Hmmm.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 08:04 PM
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^^ like i said. maybe Bush will drop out of the war.

Face it. about one million people+ die each day while i million+ are getting reborn

I do understand that some of our family members are out there though. To the best to them.

I honestly think Bush needs to fix his mistakes.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(WhiteLotus* @ Aug 30 2004, 8:04 PM)
^^ like i said. maybe Bush will drop out of the war.

Face it. about one million people+ die each day while i million+ are getting reborn

I do understand that some of our family members are out there though. To the best to them.

I honestly think Bush needs to fix his mistakes.

Um ok. rolleyes.gif

That justifies the war exactly how? That makes no sense. It doesn't matter whether or not it's family members. It's PEOPLE.

And Bush is not going to do **** to fix his mistakes.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 30 2004, 2:32 PM)
something is wrong with the nazis.

Yes, I agree, but they have a point -- Bush is running a very corrupt administration. "No-bid" contracts effectively combine state and business -- creating corrupt fascism. I don't have a problem with private business -- but when a business uses its clout like Halliburton does to get no-bid contracts, subsidies, and special tax breaks (note that I support cutting business taxes FOR ALL BUSINESSES -- not just the ones with political power), it becomes PART OF THE GOVERNMENT, and is no longer a private business.

The Polisci terminology for this is State-Capitalism -- as practiced by Augusto Pinochet of Chile, Benito Mussolini of Italy, etc. State-Capitalism is just as bad as State-Socialism, and since we seem to have both in the United States, we can simply call it Statism -- a term we usually use to describe, say, Stalin or Saddam Hussein.

Bush has also hired 40,000 "Civilian Contractors" to go to Iraq and build weapons and aid US troops -- in the olden days, before we corrupted the English language, people like those were called "Mercenaries", and it was NOT considered a war crime to kill one -- after all, they are part of the occupying force, and in a state of martial law, crime does not exist.
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 11:26 PM
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if your sick of it then go hide in a cave in some desolate area and then you wont hear anymore crap
 
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post Aug 30 2004, 11:56 PM
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if i could vote, id vote for bush, he's against abortion.. and to me that is the worst thing in the entire world. how can u kill a beautiful human?

anyways, people just going along andd saying "go kerry!" when they don't even have any interest in the election, and havent studdied it should pull their head out of their ass and die. happy.gif
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 01:58 AM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 30 2004, 2:05 PM)
Hillary is much worse than Bush.

She makes Ann Coulter look sane.

lloll i was going to say that

bush is a wad hes so stupid -.- not evil but jus a tard...
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(rant_notebook @ Aug 30 2004, 11:56 PM)
if i could vote, id vote for bush, he's against abortion.. and to me that is the worst thing in the entire world. how can u kill a beautiful human?

So you say you're pro-life but you're also pro-war? That makes no sense.
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(rant_notebook @ Aug 30 2004, 11:56 PM)
if i could vote, id vote for bush, he's against abortion.. and to me that is the worst thing in the entire world. how can u kill a beautiful human?

anyways, people just going along andd saying "go kerry!" when they don't even have any interest in the election, and havent studdied it should pull their head out of their ass and die. happy.gif

so it's better to kill a person with a family that loves them, wants them to live, and actually remembers life?

and no one i know is saying "go kerry!". it's all "down with bush!". and i never really jumped on the bandwagon till i was told about the unjust patriot act, the lack of WMDs, the history-making deficit, the possible ensuing depression, and his desire to dephile the constitution with homophobia. i'm sure theres more i can think of, too.
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 05:50 PM
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so it's better to kill a person with a family that loves them, wants them to live, and actually remembers life?


Oh, so we can kill little babies, but not grown men who could very well be terrorists in the Iraqi soldiers?

If you're referring to the people we've lost so far in the war -- make sure and check out the number of people we have lost in previous ones. It's the price you pay, sadly.

But when you justify killing babies with a reinforcement like "It's alright, they won't remember life anyway" I get angry. People with your mentality, to be blunt, sicken me.

You're not just killing a baby -- you're killing potential.

Your future wife comes down with serious, and spontaneous brain cancer...and 20+ years ago we aborted the baby that would have invented the cure.

That is the biggest mistake of all -- we're killing potential, and by the thousands each day.
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(gerundio @ Aug 31 2004, 2:13 PM)
So you say you're pro-life but you're also pro-war? That makes no sense.

because the war prevents more people in my country from getting killed.
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 06:33 PM
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No, war will cause more Americans to die ... 1000 right now, PLUS there will probably be more terrorist attacks after the war.

All of the 9-11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. Coincidentally, Saudi Arabia is where all our troops in the Mid East were stationed.

If we pull our troops out of the Mid East, there will be no more Arab terrorist attacks against us.
 
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post Aug 31 2004, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Aug 31 2004, 5:51 PM)
because the war prevents more people in my country from getting killed.

Ah no it doesn't. More Americans have died because of the war. And to invade another country with no valid reason, you're just asking for more trouble (more terroism maybe?). If you haven't noticed, the terrorists aren't exactly overjoyed at Bush and friends' actions.

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Oh, so we can kill little babies, but not grown men who could very well be terrorists in the Iraqi soldiers?

If you're referring to the people we've lost so far in the war -- make sure and check out the number of people we have lost in previous ones. It's the price you pay, sadly.

But when you justify killing babies with a reinforcement like "It's alright, they won't remember life anyway" I get angry. People with your mentality, to be blunt, sicken me.

You're not just killing a baby -- you're killing potential.

Your future wife comes down with serious, and spontaneous brain cancer...and 20+ years ago we aborted the baby that would have invented the cure.

That is the biggest mistake of all -- we're killing potential, and by the thousands each day.


Nobody here is advocating abortion. You just can't say you're pro-life and then say you're pro-war. It's a huge contradiction. Obviously you can't kill infants, but it's just as wrong to kill an adult. And that line, "that baby could have invented the cure to cancer," is pathetic. It doesn't matter if the baby is going to be a terroist or have down syndrome, everyone has a right to life.
 

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