but why?, do we feel that we are better |
Debate Rules
Here are the general forum rules that you must follow before you start any debate topics. Please make sure you've read and followed all directions.
- Topics are not to bash others.
- Immature behaviors/comments will not be tolerated.
- Please remember, not everyone thinks like you. People have different ways of thinking and different perspectives. Let's respect each other's thoughts and responses.
- PLEASE, search before making new topics--especially popular topics like "God" and "Abortion" etc.
- PLEASE, read through the thread or at least a couple pages before posting. We have to maintain a certain level of maturity in here.
  |
 Jul 13 2004, 03:58 PM
Post
#1
|
|
 *hugs for strangers*redsox*  Group: Member Posts: 151 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,304  |
QUOTE Sure humans are animals, be we feel human life is far more precious than an animal's. We are a far more advanced animal, therefore we THINK we are superior than animals we think are inferior(such as rats). Even though that may seem mean, unfortunatly, that's how it is. Just wanted to point out that i didn't say we can't test on humans. We can, it's just humans have a choice and don't want to take a risk, where animals don't have a choice, unfortunatly. but why? |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 04:18 PM
Post
#2
|
|
 NO WAI! R u Srs? Group: Member Posts: 1,264 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,094 |
That's just how it is. People think they are better than others because of intellect, money, and etc. It's how humans act. It's like they like to flaunt what they have. I mean we think we are better because we can do more things than others.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 04:31 PM
Post
#3
|
|
 BANNED Group: Member Posts: 2,419 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,387 |
Money makes the world go 'round. Consumers want a product and businesses make the product. It is cheaper to test on poor lil helpless beings because they don't have a voice to protest. Same thing goes with circus', I hate them.
Animals in Laboratories Unseen They Suffer Unheard They Cry In Agony They Linger In Loneliness They Die PeTA StopAnimalTests.com |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 04:43 PM
Post
#4
|
|
 LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
well if it's so cruel to test things on animals then we should test things on humans, right? but wouldn't that be cruel to humans? so which do you prefer? cruelty to animals or humans?
i hate peta. they kill more animals than they save and look like idiots doing it. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 04:46 PM
Post
#5
|
|
|
BANNED Group: Member Posts: 2,419 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,387 |
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 13 2004, 2:43 PM) well if it's so cruel to test things on animals then we should test things on humans, right? but wouldn't that be cruel to humans? so which do you prefer? cruelty to animals or humans? i hate peta. they kill more animals than they save and look like idiots doing it. I prefer that they test on humans. Because then people have a voice to protest. Why should something so innocent have to suffer? |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 04:55 PM
Post
#6
|
|
 i'm too cool 4 school Group: Member Posts: 752 Joined: Mar 2004 Member No: 7,421 |
^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases.
Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 04:57 PM
Post
#7
|
|
|
BANNED Group: Member Posts: 2,419 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,387 |
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 13 2004, 2:55 PM) ^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases. Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved Well that's an arrogant way of seeing life. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 05:30 PM
Post
#8
|
|
 UnIqUe N pRoUd! Group: Member Posts: 65 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 25,789 |
In my opinion we think we are better because in size and population we win over to animals. We are intelligent (not that animals are stupid) and have made the world an industry. People changed the world that they feel they control it more that animals. But I think we shouldn't think bad of animals, they are living things too.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 06:01 PM
Post
#9
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
Because of Darwinism.. survival of the fittest.. its biological
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 06:11 PM
Post
#10
|
|
|
LunchboxXx Group: Member Posts: 1,789 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,810 |
if animals don't want to be tested on they should evolve into things that can say "hey. don't test on me".
until then their only purpous is to feed me and keep a natural balance. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 06:22 PM
Post
#11
|
|
|
BANNED Group: Member Posts: 2,419 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,387 |
Another person with an arrogant way of seeing life.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 08:26 PM
Post
#12
|
|
|
*hugs for strangers*redsox* Group: Member Posts: 151 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 29,304 |
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 13 2004, 4:55 PM) ^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases. Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved really huh? because you obviously didnt know that HUMANS ARE ANMIALS! |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 10:48 PM
Post
#13
|
|
|
Brie Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 10,172 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 20,548 |
D00d.. animals are people, too.
How would you like being tested on just because you were more innocent than another being?! That would effing suck.. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 13 2004, 11:56 PM
Post
#14
|
|
 ºù¼ö~ Group: Member Posts: 1,076 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,755 |
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 13 2004, 6:11 PM) if animals don't want to be tested on they should evolve into things that can say "hey. don't test on me". until then their only purpous is to feed me and keep a natural balance. ssooo when an angry mother bear has cubs and all [or another situation, just watched brother bear.. so LOL] she probly thinks were gna go and attack her cubs, right? so shes trying to protect her cub, and attacks us. we say "hey, dont eat me, im not trying to hurt your cub" but can she understand human? nope. she cant. can we speak the bear language? nope. we cant. but we cant evolve or wahtever and speak their language. and neither can they. should we learn?  yup.. thas possible............... >_>maybe theyre saying "hey. dont test me" but its not our language, so we cant understand. animals may seem smart.. or maybe some are just special. but dogs have 30sec memories.. lols, learned that from soemone. true? i dont noe im sorry i cant explain well.. im trying.. ehhe you migth not udnerstand.. lols 
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 14 2004, 12:26 AM
Post
#15
|
|
|
BANNED Group: Member Posts: 2,419 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,387 |
QUOTE(kraziegrl @ Jul 13 2004, 9:56 PM) ssooo when an angry mother bear has cubs and all [or another situation, just watched brother bear.. so LOL] she probly thinks were gna go and attack her cubs, right? so shes trying to protect her cub, and attacks us. we say "hey, dont eat me, im not trying to hurt your cub" but can she understand human? nope. she cant. can we speak the bear language? nope. we cant. but we cant evolve or wahtever and speak their language. and neither can they. should we learn? yup.. thas possible............... >_>maybe theyre saying "hey. dont test me" but its not our language, so we cant understand. animals may seem smart.. or maybe some are just special. but dogs have 30sec memories.. lols, learned that from soemone. true? i dont noe im sorry i cant explain well.. im trying.. ehhe you migth not udnerstand.. lols If dogs have a 30 minute memory capacity how can they remember their names. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 14 2004, 12:47 AM
Post
#16
|
|
|
NO WAI! R u Srs? Group: Member Posts: 1,264 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,094 |
QUOTE ^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases. Humans are actual people, who have a voice who need problems solved Agreeed. QUOTE Because of Darwinism.. survival of the fittest.. its biological Exactly. QUOTE really huh? because you obviously didnt know that HUMANS ARE ANMIALS! Sure we are, we're just on the top of the food chain and more technologically advanced. Would you rather sacrifice a human life or a animal? QUOTE D00d.. animals are people, too. How would you like being tested on just because you were more innocent than another being?! That would effing suck.. Ermm.. who said we test on animals cuz their innocent? What animal is more innocent than another? Are you saying we should leave all the cute bunnies alone and use ugly animals? We BREED animals for testing too. So to me they have no rights. The same thing as breeding animals to eat. Well, what should we test on then? The air? Or how about plants? To me, to have rights, you need to understand them. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 14 2004, 11:28 PM
Post
#17
|
|
|
ºù¼ö~ Group: Member Posts: 1,076 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,755 |
QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Jul 14 2004, 12:26 AM) If dogs have a 30 minute memory capacity how can they remember their names. i never said 30 minutes.. i said 30 seconds. i dont noe if its true, and they might not and you may just think it is. i mean i can call anydog popcorn, which isnt its name and theyd look at me. why is that? i dunno.. but they do remmeber soem thigns by seeing it i guess. im not a scientist.. i dunno >_> |
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2004, 01:21 AM
Post
#18
|
|
 Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 413 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,733 |
i bet the ppl that are against animal testing didn't think about the daily things they wear or consume. I bet more than %50 of those are from animals or were tested on animals.
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2004, 02:55 AM
Post
#19
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 300 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,855 |
QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 13 2004, 4:43 PM) well if it's so cruel to test things on animals then we should test things on humans, right? but wouldn't that be cruel to humans? so which do you prefer? cruelty to animals or humans? i hate peta. they kill more animals than they save and look like idiots doing it. peta is a worthless bunch of idiots |
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2004, 02:56 AM
Post
#20
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 300 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,855 |
QUOTE(kraziegrl @ Jul 14 2004, 11:28 PM) i never said 30 minutes.. i said 30 seconds. i dont noe if its true, and they might not and you may just think it is. i mean i can call anydog popcorn, which isnt its name and theyd look at me. why is that? i dunno.. but they do remmeber soem thigns by seeing it i guess. im not a scientist.. i dunno >_> so i guess every dog naturally knows how to sit/beg/lay/shake/rollover/etc and thats how police can teach k9's to do drug and bomb searches right? common sense..... |
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2004, 03:12 AM
Post
#21
|
|
 I wanna be roman Group: Member Posts: 1,844 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 989 |
I'm bringing religion into this for a point, but lets not make this into a religion debate.
In the Bible it says that animals are here for our use. We happen to be at the top of the food chain. Go us. If we weren't then we'd have little pillows with our names on them. Also, something that sets us apart is the ability to think. We can solve Algebra problems, no other animal on earth (no matter how smart) can do things like that. We're just s step above them. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2004, 10:09 AM
Post
#22
|
|
|
Senior Member Group: Member Posts: 1,795 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,421 |
QUOTE I'm bringing religion into this for a point, but lets not make this into a religion debate. In the Bible it says that animals are here for our use. Hopefully that should appease the religious ones.. QUOTE We happen to be at the top of the food chain. Go us. If we weren't then we'd have little pillows with our names on them. Also, something that sets us apart is the ability to think. We can solve Algebra problems, no other animal on earth (no matter how smart) can do things like that. We're just s step above them. Haha, little pillows Other animals can think as well; and we're not at the top of the food chain, other animals eat us, do they not? |
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2004, 11:11 AM
Post
#23
|
|
 smiling hurts Group: Member Posts: 480 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,630 |
QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 13 2004, 4:55 PM) ^animals don't matter. They are here for me to eat, and for me to find cures for dieases. Animals DO matter and in fact they should not be tested on very cruelly but the fact is that many of us use products that have been tested. More than half of all the make-up has been testes and thanks to monkeys alot of diseases can be cured. The only things that sucks is that sometimes the products have different effect on humans rather than animals. |
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2004, 01:30 PM
Post
#24
|
|
|
NO WAI! R u Srs? Group: Member Posts: 1,264 Joined: Jul 2004 Member No: 28,094 |
I believe rights are for any animal that can understand them. We can understand them, can rats? Don't try to rebuttle with "what about mentally handicapped people" because i mean it as a whole. If all animals had rights just like humans, then i guess i can't eat them anymore. Wait... plants are living things too, maybe they should have rights! That way no one can eat anything! [/sarcastic]
|
|
|
|
|
Jul 15 2004, 02:03 PM
Post
#25
|
|
|
BANNED Group: Member Posts: 2,419 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 14,387 |
QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 15 2004, 8:09 AM) Other animals can think as well; and we're not at the top of the food chain, other animals eat us, do they not? Yup, yup. |
|
|
|
|
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: