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Jesus, God's son.
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post Aug 21 2004, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Aug 20 2004, 8:37 PM)
sikdragon-PLEASE DONT DOUBLE POST. USE THE EDIT BUTTON. thank you. :]

hm i wouldnt compare Jesus and God with your face... cause there are some people with 2 completely different sides... and Jesus and God arent comepletely different.
i guess CrimsonArchangel's example of water is a good way of seeing who Jesus and God is. THey are the same, but diffent in differnt ways...


actually- the red lettering is where Jesus speaks. it's only in the new testament. hehe happy.gif

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yea i kno i messed up lol laugh.gif ..i just read it lol..good looking out
 
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post Aug 21 2004, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 20 2004, 7:12 PM)
And to Angel: flowers.gif

laugh.gif You are welcome. _smile.gif

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Did YOU not look for answers from people who are more knowledgeable about the Bible?


Sorry... I haven't been able to check on the topic so I'm rather confused by this. What did I miss? blink.gif
 
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post Aug 21 2004, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Aug 21 2004, 9:03 PM)
laugh.gif You are welcome. _smile.gif



Sorry... I haven't been able to check on the topic so I'm rather confused by this. What did I miss? blink.gif

He basically asked why am I asking you guys questions when all the answers are in the Bible, and I replied that not everyone can understand the Bible without some help with interpretations from parents/teachers/Clergy/Church... etc.
 
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post Aug 21 2004, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Aug 21 2004, 9:05 PM)
He basically asked why am I asking you guys questions when all the answers are in the Bible, and I replied that not everyone can understand the Bible without some help with interpretations from parents/teachers/Clergy/Church... etc.

Ooooooh, ok.

This is gonna sound kinda rude, but DUH! Someone who is not in the christian faith has all the right in the world to ask questions. And yes, not even us christians fully understand the Bible. *Sorry, but like I've said before, I tend to be sarcastic. Sorry if someone got offended).

Yes, the Bible has had many interpretations in the past, but I think the message is still the same. Of course, there are some that are completely changed, but... nothing I can do about that... happy.gif
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Aug 20 2004, 5:21 PM)
So you are really using YOUR interpretation of the Bible instead of actually reading the letter of the Bible ... because society and government changes?

When did God give you the authority to interpret his word? It seems that if God is all-powerful, he would write what he meant and vice versa. In Timothy, it says that you should take God's word at face value, and not try to add words or your own interpretation to them. It is rather presumptous of you to think that you can know what God's intentions are ... and isn't that a deadly sin?

haha thats why christianity is totally based on our faith... if Jesus rose from the dead after 5 days he was crucified, if God hadnt created animals and humens on the 7th day; if one part of the bible was wrong.. [lots of IFS?] then christianity is all false and we'd be going to... where? hell? [if THATS even true] its a risky religion to follow... wink.gif
haha thats what i think... contradict me, please, if you have other beliefs. tongue.gif
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Aug 22 2004, 11:49 AM)
if Jesus rose from the dead after 5 days he was crucified,

It was three days.... _unsure.gif happy.gif
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Aug 22 2004, 2:41 PM)
It was three days....  _unsure.gif  happy.gif

haha i knoe...
did you read my post? read it again.. carefully. wink.gif
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 06:51 PM
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ok./... i'mma christian tooh.... and i've been born one..::

GOd said that he'll come down to earth twice...
jesus christ was the first... and the second is still to ocme, though it won't be JEsus. kuz next tyme, it's actually gonna be judgement day... so.. [getting off topic]
anywaiz... GOD sent JESUS down to earth so that he could save the world... he wanted him in a human form, so GOD sent Jesus down to earth with the virgin mary... why mary? because she is GOD'S favored one...
p.s. jesus IS perfect, or else he couldn't of died for our sins... why? because he is pure, and we need a pure person to die for us... get it now?
yew CAN email me or im me if u have anymore questions....

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GOD BLESS!!~!!~!
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 07:59 PM
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ahh. this is confusing. we should just have ONE BIG christianity topic.. instead of 1 God one and 1 Jesus one. cause we're all taking about both.. haha :]
 
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You ARE Christian and you're still a bit confused... how confused do you think non-Christians are? blink.gif
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Aug 22 2004, 7:59 PM)
ahh. this is confusing. we should just have ONE BIG christianity topic.. instead of 1 God one and 1 Jesus one. cause we're all taking about both.. haha :]


if we have on topic on jesus god is gonna come out...if we have one topic about god jesus will come up....why...cuz there tha same hello the trinity...so it doesnt matter it shouldt b confusing...if u think about it...but i guess one chritianity topic would b a bad idea cool.gif
 
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my bad i ment 2 say it would not be a bad idea ha my bad lol whistling.gif
 
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post Aug 22 2004, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Aug 8 2004, 6:32 PM)
jesus was an englightened human whom god chose to help.

yup i'm buddhist.


there's the trinity- god is the father, the son, and the holy spirit.

so, jesus is his own father.

the father did mary, and mary had the son. the son and the father are one and the same, along with the holy spirit.


here's my trinity: stitch the expirenment, mulder the detective, and Frankensitien the doctor.

yea, you need a christian on this.

hmm nice.
 
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post Aug 23 2004, 09:13 AM
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post Aug 23 2004, 11:13 AM
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But it isn't the exact words of God, so how do you know parts of it aren't His words? If God doesn't control man, how do we know the Bible is one hundred percent true?


No one really knows if the BIBLE is 100% true..but Christian believe that the follower's of God wrote it because God told them too. They still had the free will to say that they don't want to, but they recognize God as the One and Only Savior and King so it motivated them to want to write what God told them. Again, I know there aren't scientific proof that Bible is 100%.
 
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post Aug 23 2004, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(danyo @ Aug 23 2004, 7:13 AM)
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You ARE Christian and you're still a bit confused... how confused do you think non-Christians are?


haha i'll always be confused about Christianity.. many of the things that we belive dont make sense to me. alot of things that Jesus says wont make sense to any humen on earth. so i guess [like i said before] its all based on faith.. hm. _smile.gif
 
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post Aug 23 2004, 02:32 PM
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lol there's so much ridiculous bullshit in this thread...

i am catholic btw.
 
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post Aug 23 2004, 04:11 PM
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lol there's so much ridiculous bullshit in this thread...


If that's the case..then don't waste ur time spaming this thread..thank you
 
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post Aug 23 2004, 04:47 PM
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jesus.. hes such a wonderful person.
ok.. in the beginning.. god created the light.. and the seas and us. and land. but then we ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge because of a [dan dan daaaan] devil in disquise. and so we got seprated from god. but god loved us sooo muuchh he sent JESUS to come, and so we are connected to god.
he was one day praying and Judah who was one of his disciples betrayed him and nailed him onto the cross. they teased him, "if ur really the son of god, save urself" but it said not to test god. the 2 other bandits who were tied onto the crosses next to him were talking to him. one said "if ur rly the son of god climb down and save us too." and the other said "stop dont tease him, he doesnt deserve to be tied up here like we do."

and so JESUS saved us from our sins happy.gif and he died for us. and we lived happily ever after!!

whew long story _smile.gif
 
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post Aug 23 2004, 08:16 PM
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yes yes, but then again who created god, who brought forth this jesus? as well as mary being the virgin how did she have jesus?
 
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QUOTE(Devastation @ Aug 23 2004, 8:16 PM)
yes yes, but then again who created god, who brought forth this jesus? as well as mary being the virgin how did she have jesus?

no one created God. God is.


as far as mary being a virgin, i dont think so. mary got pregnant by some guy (if it was joseph i have no idea) and had jesus.

this is what i believe.
 
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QUOTE(Suesterrx @ Aug 23 2004, 4:47 PM)
jesus.. hes such a wonderful person.
ok.. in the beginning.. god created the light.. and the seas and us. and land. but then we ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge because of a [dan dan daaaan] devil in disquise. and so we got seprated from god. but god loved us sooo muuchh he sent JESUS to come, and so we are connected to god.
he was one day praying and Judah who was one of his disciples betrayed him and nailed him onto the cross. they teased him, "if ur really the son of god, save urself" but it said not to test god. the 2 other bandits who were tied onto the crosses next to him were talking to him. one said "if ur rly the son of god climb down and save us too." and the other said "stop dont tease him, he doesnt deserve to be tied up here like we do."

and so JESUS saved us from our sins happy.gif and he died for us. and we lived happily ever after!!

whew long story _smile.gif

do you really believe all of that? im just curious...
 
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QUOTE(Devastation @ Aug 23 2004, 8:16 PM)
yes yes, but then again who created god, who brought forth this jesus? as well as mary being the virgin how did she have jesus?

No one created God, he was just there..he is the yesterday, today, and future

God brought Jesus into this world by Mary who is a virgin cuz technically she did not have sex with Joseph, that is why she almost got stoned to death cuz ppl thought she cheated on Joseph. So, mary was preganent by God...but not literally if you know wut i mean.
 
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post Aug 24 2004, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(Suesterrx @ Aug 23 2004, 2:47 PM)
jesus.. hes such a wonderful person.
ok.. in the beginning.. god created the light.. and the seas and us. and land. but then we ate the fruit from the tree of knowledge because of a [dan dan daaaan] devil in disquise. and so we got seprated from god. but god loved us sooo muuchh he sent JESUS to come, and so we are connected to god.
he was one day praying and Judah who was one of his disciples betrayed him and nailed him onto the cross. they teased him, "if ur really the son of god, save urself" but it said not to test god. the 2 other bandits who were tied onto the crosses next to him were talking to him. one said "if ur rly the son of god climb down and save us too." and the other said "stop dont tease him, he doesnt deserve to be tied up here like we do."

and so JESUS saved us from our sins happy.gif and he died for us. and we lived happily ever after!!

whew long story _smile.gif

i think we went over that already. haha wink.gif good story, tho.
gerundio: dont double post. :]

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do you really believe all of that? im just curious...

i belive in that.

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as far as mary being a virgin, i dont think so. mary got pregnant by some guy (if it was joseph i have no idea) and had jesus.

this is what i believe

really? where did you get that? can you back that up? im just curious.. wink.gif
 
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QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Aug 24 2004, 3:26 PM)
really? where did you get that? can you back that up? im just curious.. wink.gif

well if you can look at it in several ways.

if you consider the whole thing about jesus being born poor, being born not as a king but as a regular human being, it fits quite well.

mary was teenage mother. she became pregnant and had jesus. its simple. i cant back it up, but neither can the church back up half of its dogma.
 

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