male pregnancy, immoral? Options

[*[2]Nekked*]

http://malepregnancy.com

wow science is really advancing huh? there are some people who disagree with this new development because they think that it defies nature and god's will.

one (pregnant) woman complains that she is appalled that a man could share the same experience she is having with her unborn child, and that the miracle of pregnancy is something only women should experience.

i however think this is a great step in science, because what if you wanted to have children, but your body wasnt fit to nurture and support a living child inside you? could your partner carry the child instead? some women complain that men should have to go through the pain of child birth, and now this is their chance.

[sikdragon]

right and if they dont apologize they will go to hell and burn for all eternity. great thought isnt it.

[sporadic]

Wow, God is so thoughtful and forgiving and understanding.

[sikdragon]

yes he is, but he is a just God comes with the territory of being good you know.

[sporadic]

So what happens to people who doubt God's existence but are good people?

[sikdragon]

no one is good. it is by grace alone we are saved.

[sporadic]

That's lovely.

[sikdragon]

it is.

[inlonelinessidie]

Hey, if Aliens come and wipe out our race by destroying the females, then I'm in for male pregnancy, but since that hasn't happened, then I'm against male pregnancy.

LMAO. Yeah then obviously I would support it . . . but that wouldn't matter because I would be dead since I'm female.

[ComradeRed]

Hell doesn't exist... http://www.bibletruths.com/part6.htm

Long, but worth it. Hell is a place of chastening -- that's the word used. If you look it up, chastening means punishment with an aim to correct, thus it cannot be eternal.

Furthermore, Catholic Social Teaching teaches that punishment cannot be justified for its own sake ... it must provide restitution and redemption. But to provide restitution and redemption requires a finite punishment -- an infinite punishment is not compatible with the teachings on justice of any Christian church.

If God is a just God -- according to the Christian concept of justice -- there cannot be a permanent hell (but there can be a temporary one).

The Book of Revelation even says there are only THREE things that stay in hell forever -- Satan, the Beast, and the False Prophet.

[*Kathleen*]

Why the heck are we talking about God now? Please, let's get back on topic.

[Yemmerz]

I think it's good in the world of science. I mean I'm not for it, but if it helps people (like gay people, who can't have kids) it's fine. But I wouldn't have my husband carry my baby.

[inlonelinessidie]

I don't understand why people keep bringing gay couples into this debate.
Sperm + Sperm does NOT = baby.
Egg + Egg does NOT = baby

Either way they will have to get a egg or sperm donor in order to get their child. So yes it is pointless.

[scandalous_chic]

Well, I think I'm against it.
I mean, what makes us women bond? The fact that all of us go through the same pain of childbirth at some point in our lives. It's something we share.

[banddorko]

i don't know if anyone has posted this... but i'm pretty sure that site fake. i thought it was real until i started telling my mom and dad about it, who are doctors. my mom said there's no where they could put the baby. then i showed her the cover of time they had on the site and she said "where's the date? or the price?" and i was like "uhh..." so i went to time.com and searched for the article and nothing came up. i thought that was supicious. i also asked my parents about RYT hospital, and they said they've never heard of it. then i started reading the posts on the skeptical board and those convinced me. look at this: LEEN, Pakistan: "this is not real. the EKG is an animated GIF for god's sake. are people so gullible?". i looked in the source and he's right.. look:

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i think it makes sense that this is all a hoax... if you look at the other "discoveries" they've made they look bogus too.. like a mouse that has the intelligence of a human? i don't think so... and also wouldn't there have been a LOT of media coverage on this if this was real? i'm not believing this.

[edit:] anyways, if it was possible i don't think it's right. i mean isn't that why woman are given the stuff to bear children?

[inlonelinessidie]

banddorko
Quit spamming

//EDIT: I apologize I thought you were posting a site for another forum or something. Sorry about that man.

[*Kathleen*]

Yeah, I'm pretty doubtful of it, too, but I think Trish (topic starter) would rather us discuss if it's moral or not, if it could happen.

Edit // How is that spamming?

[ryfitaDF]

so people are going against male pregnancy? wow. that's really awful. all these people saying stuff is immoral like stem cell and cloning need to realise that these finds are humanity's way of growing and if somthing doesn't grow it will die. did people oppose using the light bulb when edison invented it? some did. they're called the ahmish (sp?) and they don't seem too happy at all.

[inlonelinessidie]

they're called the ahmish (sp?) and they don't seem too happy at all.

Yeah they do. They get a time in their life to choose if they want to live in the "real world" or continue living in the ahmish lifestyle, and some choose to go back to how they were raised. So how can you say they aren't happy when in the end they chose to be ahmish . . .?

[Spirited Away]

so people are going against male pregnancy? wow. that's really awful. all these people saying stuff is immoral like stem cell and cloning need to realise that these finds are humanity's way of growing and if somthing doesn't grow it will die. did people oppose using the light bulb when edison invented it? some did. they're called the ahmish (sp?) and they don't seem too happy at all.

Researching electricity isn't quite similar to playing with human life...

And I'm with the rest of you people who doubt that this is a real research.

[CrimsonArchangel]

And I'm with the rest of you people who doubt that this is a real research.

Me too.

I mean, even the basic 9th grade biology student can tell you that the male physiology is not in any way suited to carry, nurture and support a growing human fetus.
Its just completely impossible.

[F1R3B4T]

eh i googled up the whole thing, and ryt hospital was listed on "bogus websites - maybe"

i took a closer look at that "time magazine" posted up ther, and it looked nothing close to the usual time magazine covers. it lacked the description of the story in small fonts, and there should've been many more story headlines on the cover.

lmfao the EKG is an animated gif. how interesting.

i agree with bandorko: wheres the media coverage? thers nothing in the news about it, OR those other discoveries.

the site links to a CNN coverage. read closely. the CNN coverage is on SEAHORSES. WTF?!?!?!?!


If thats not enough, read this: its the disclaimer found in the RYT hostpital.

The information on RYT Hospital-Dwayne Medical Center's web site is provided as a general reference; it is not to be used or relied upon for any medical decisions, diagnostic purposes, or medical treatments. This information is not intended to be patient education, and it does not create any patient-physician relationship. This site should not be used as a substitute for diagnosis and treatment by a medical professional.

Please consult your physician before making any healthcare decisions or for guidance about a specific medical condition. RYT Hospital-Dwayne Medical Center expressly disclaims responsibility, and shall have no liability, for any damages, loss, injury, or liability whatsoever suffered as a result of your reliance on the information contained in this site. RYT Hospital-Dwayne Medical Center does not endorse specifically any test, treatment, or procedure mentioned on this site.

if u go into "news and press" in malepregnancy.com, u see a link to USATODAY.com..... which so conveniently links directly back to malepregnancy.com. no coverage by usatoday, jus a link.


alrighty then, lets check out the online journal of mr lee. wat duz it say here?
"mr lee's prenancy journal will be bak online shortly."
clicking the picture will close teh popup.
if u right click the very edge of the popup, u can view the source:

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man i jus love the FAQ they provide

Will the birth be broadcasted live over the Internet? Mr. Lee has become increasingly uneasy with the enormous media attention his pregnancy is attracting. As a result, he is considering giving birth in private. For the same reason, detailed information following his pregnancy may be limited to the press as well as this web site.

Where do I go for more information about male pregnancy? A list of book references will be online shortly as well as additional documentation of Mr. Lee's pregnancy.

^^^^ straight from the faq.


hey, can anyone tell me the address of this place? the "contact us" section doesn't seem to give a sh*t about it.
i guess we'll have to wait out the 9 months to see if its real.


alright now, even if it were possible, i say it is completely immoral, for obvious reasons stated repeatedly by others before me.

[inlonelinessidie]

So this is bogus? We've been had . . .

But anyways the point of this debate is debating if in the future this would be a good idea.

[aud_chua]

i think it's fake..
i went to the website of Time and they didn't have the cover for that "male pregnancy" thingy.... if it was real, it should be all over the news!! but no.. i haven't seen anything else about that........ fcking liars!!
so yea.. it's all lies!!!!!!
but if that was real........ eww......!!! gross!!!!!!

[iheartsimba]

wow thats so amazing...if guys want to i suppose they can....but my only though is.....where would the baby come out of?!?!

[banddorko]

like someone already mentioned, they would do a c-section.