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princess2113
post May 21 2004, 04:36 PM
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do u think its ok for parents to hit kids?? what abt older bros n sisters
 
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post May 21 2004, 04:41 PM
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Well, for no reason at all, of course not. I think it's only fair to hit kids when they deserve it. I mean, that's what I think is wrong with society today - parents don't take the roles as the actual parents, letting kids do whatever they want without discipline...it's wrong, in my opinion. Kids need to know what's wrong and what's right. They never learn because no one tells them.

And...is it okay for older brothers and sisters to hit kids? I don't think so - they're not the parents. As much as I would love to hit my sister, I don't; nor can I.
 
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post May 21 2004, 04:57 PM
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I think it's only fair to hit kids when they deserve it.

Deserve it? What do you consider merits hitting?
Would that not spawn a sense of violence in the kids?

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They never learn because no one tells them.

No one tells them? Why dont ppl tell them? Are there not other ways of discipline other than hitting?

Your argument seems to revolve around parents using hitting as discipline to foster a sense of right and wrong.. so by your same logic, do you also suggest teachers hitting misbehaving students?
 
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post May 21 2004, 05:10 PM
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It depends on what the kid did first in the first place

But I don't think so.

But I agree with kathleen, paretns don't take control of their kids enough...
 
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post May 21 2004, 05:14 PM
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It depends on what the kid did first in the first place

And what.. in your opinion, would merit being hit?

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But I agree with kathleen, paretns don't take control of their kids enough...

They dont, I acknowledge that, but why do you propose hitting as a form of discipline?
 
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post May 21 2004, 05:30 PM
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it all depands on how the parents beats them and what kind of child is that... whistling.gif
>>>> it better to take away their car or cell.... when they fell like hitting their child
 
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post May 21 2004, 05:38 PM
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I don't think kids should be hit period. No matter what they did. Hitting does not solve anything. It just exposes them to violence.
 
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post May 21 2004, 05:46 PM
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No matter what they did. Hitting does not solve anything. It just exposes them to violence

There we go! Exactly my point
 
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post May 21 2004, 06:00 PM
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no hitting them(in a rightful way because they did something wrong) puts fear into them not to do the same that they did again. Abuse is wrong, but discipline is not wrong. Taking away someones television time isn't going to do anything. I got spanking whooping whatever you want to call them because I was a WILD child i meani was always in ISS but after getting spanked for doing those things and actually caring i changed who i was.

The soceity is so messed up today because no one discilpines there child. Everyone want s to be there child's friend. I have enough friends, I need someone to be my mother and father
 
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post May 21 2004, 06:04 PM
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no hitting them(in a rightful way because they did something wrong) puts fear into them not to do the same that they did again

but then they learn that by hitting, ppl can be melded one way or the other..

I see what you're saying about how hitting would discipline them.. but too many parents that do hit their kids are abusive and ingrain a sense of violence in them, that they express in their own lives

I guess in an idealistic world, sparingly hitting a child for disciplinary purposes would help them develop a sense of right and wrong well.. but let's face it, we dont live in an idealistic world, and all too often the parents' anger and frustration at whatever the child has done gets out of hand.. and that's why I'm against this
 
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post May 21 2004, 06:07 PM
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Yeah I know about abuse. There is a bad side to everything because people misuse things. If your parent ever were to fit you on your face that is not discipline, that is them getting out their anger and a way of disrespecting you
 
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post May 21 2004, 06:52 PM
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well i think that kids these days need to be smacked around a lil more...i mean i am the oldest and i have been hit few times by my parents...but i also repsect them my dad has never hit me...my mom has once or twice...Nad for older siblings...only in cases like a swat on the bottom but like when they are baby sitting that is all i can and or will do...i think that should be all it takes if that dont work...they can sit in there room for a hour or so till they get it in there head
 
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post May 21 2004, 09:19 PM
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Deserve it? What do you consider merits hitting?
Would that not spawn a sense of violence in the kids?

Hitting? Can you say underage sex, underage drinking, underage smoking, drugs, cutting class for weeks on end, gangs, stuff like that? I think hitting is OK, as long as it doesnt inflicy enough pain to leave marks or to make them cry.

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do you also suggest teachers hitting misbehaving students?

Teachers are not within the family. They shouldnt touch people.
 
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post May 21 2004, 09:22 PM
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Hitting? Can you say underage sex, underage drinking, underage smoking, drugs, cutting class for weeks on end, gangs, stuff like that? I think hitting is OK, as long as it doesnt inflicy enough pain to leave marks or to make them cry.

Ok, THAT I agree with, but more often than not, that does happen
 
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post May 21 2004, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(juliar @ May 21 2004, 9:19 PM)
Hitting? Can you say underage sex, underage drinking, underage smoking, drugs, cutting class for weeks on end, gangs, stuff like that? I think hitting is OK, as long as it doesnt inflicy enough pain to leave marks or to make them cry.


Teachers are not within the family. They shouldnt touch people.

lol arent u SUPPOSED to cry if u get hit?
 
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post May 21 2004, 09:34 PM
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Most people who are bad enough and horrible enough to do those things that MERIT hitting usually arent that scared of a slap, or a whack on the back, or a kick. I mean, I'm not that hardcore, and I can take a hit.
 
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post May 21 2004, 09:38 PM
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Most people who are bad enough and horrible enough to do those things that MERIT hitting usually arent that scared of a slap, or a whack on the back, or a kick. I mean, I'm not that hardcore, and I can take a hit.

Would you consider bad grades meriting being hit? I know friends that've been hit because of grade issues
 
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post May 21 2004, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(juliar @ May 21 2004, 9:34 PM)
Most people who are bad enough and horrible enough to do those things that MERIT hitting usually arent that scared of a slap, or a whack on the back, or a kick. I mean, I'm not that hardcore, and I can take a hit.

i cant=(
 
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post May 21 2004, 09:41 PM
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Yeah; realize that the leaders of today were disciplined. Your parents were disciplined. The majority of them, anyways. It teaches you to learn respect, something that has been lost in this society. I'm not suggesting a downright beating until they bleed, but there needs to be some discipline. I mean, just because you take away their cell phone doesn't do much - it doesn't show you punishment. It's punishment, but it won't cover what children do today.
 
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post May 21 2004, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 21 2004, 9:38 PM)
Would you consider bad grades meriting being hit? I know friends that've been hit because of grade issues

I've said what I think merits a hit. And what happens with your friends, there are different situations for everyone. I don't think I can go through each issue specifically, going over the details.
And no, I dont think grades merit a hit. It depends. Do they get 70s or 80s and get hit? Or 40s and 30s?
 
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post May 21 2004, 10:11 PM
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I like home my dad does things.....

80 and ^..i get 20bux
70 and lower i owe him 20 bux
71-79...i brake even
 
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post May 21 2004, 11:31 PM
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i dont think it's right for parents to hit kids, not because of "abuse," but just because it is ineffective. Okay, it works when you're a small child, and you learn the basis of respecting your parents. i know hitting your kids isn't abusive, because your parents still love you. but i still dont agree with it past the age of 10, and definetly not past 14.

when you hit a teenager, teenagers don't like to be humbled. we are offended and feel like our pride's been taken away, so instead of reacting with respect or having learned a lesson, we react with anger. well at least me anyways.
 
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post May 22 2004, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ May 21 2004, 9:41 PM)
Yeah; realize that the leaders of today were disciplined. Your parents were disciplined. The majority of them, anyways. It teaches you to learn respect, something that has been lost in this society. I'm not suggesting a downright beating until they bleed, but there needs to be some discipline. I mean, just because you take away their cell phone doesn't do much - it doesn't show you punishment. It's punishment, but it won't cover what children do today.

I have the exact same view.

The statement that the disciplinary hitting exposes a child to violence is complete bs. A child can be exposed to violence many other ways like on TV for example. I mean little kids be watching their favorite superheroes beatin' up on bad guys and what not. Does that mean they're goin' to grow up to be a violent person? Maybe, maybe not.
 
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post May 22 2004, 06:42 AM
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well of course... to pay attention and not do bad thins... if u meant like parents hitting their kids while doing drugs is SOOO ILLEGAL!!
 
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post May 22 2004, 09:32 AM
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so if its ok...at what age is it NOT ok....n how do u know if its abuse...i mean if the rents r using belts is that bad then?
 

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