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post Aug 10 2004, 06:52 PM
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QUOTE(Chlorie @ Aug 10 2004, 6:42 PM)
leeeza702....don't call me a bitch...i don't appreciate that and make sure before you critizie someone else at least read read(that's the kind of sh*t you did)  you're own dumb comments...and i went off topic for a reason...i was sure as hell not talking to just you!!! boxing.gif  now this was directed toward you....GOT IT???

hmmm... exactly where in my posts did i call you a b*tch??? you need to READ THE POSTS!!!!! I don't call people names okay?! I'm better than that...

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I think that leeeza702 needs to read a black history book...or at least go thorough the black struggle...uz' when you are blak most blaks have to try to be ghetto...they have to walk, act, dress, and even eat certain things...go to special stores to be cool or hip or w/e!! You people don't understand the pressure it can put on some people...cause to white people we are atomatically labled "urban" or "hip-hop" or even "ghetto" But that's not all blak people...


I think that leeeza702 needs to read a black history book.. or at least go through the black struggle... CUZ'......

hmmm... you say I need to read a history book cuz..... then you went off... hmmm, it seems to me like you were directing that comment to me... you're saying that I needed to read because....... you never mentioned anyone else... and you didn't separate the posts like everyone else... so read my posts more carefully before you post stupid comments... GOT IT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad.gif

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Since there is no more debating going on... I will no longer be checking up on this thread.... I was in here for the sole reason of debating... and since Chlorie is just TRYING to bash on me here, I've decided to just leave this thread...

It was fun debating with you brownsugar08 and kandi-chan... you guys are awesome... flowers.gif maybe you guys can explain to Chlorie about why I said "bitch" in my previous posts... because she obviously didn't read any of it...

And Chlorie.... boxing.gif ?? exactly what is that supposed to mean?? oh my goodness?? i'm scared!! please don't come out of the computer and TRY to kick my ass... ahaha... rolleyes.gif
 
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at least go thorough the black struggle...uz' when you are blak most blaks have to try to be ghetto...they have to walk, act, dress, and even eat certain things...go to special stores to be cool or hip or w/e!! You people don't understand the pressure it can put on some people...cause to white people we are atomatically labled "urban" or "hip-hop" or even "ghetto" But that's not all blak people... 


So, you're saying that it's hard to be Black? Uh, I really hope that's not what you're saying. Anyone can act ghetto without even trying that hard, but not everyone can have class.
 
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this has turned to a mudfest.
 
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man, i don't go to the deabte fourm for only three days and this topic is already on pade 8.
 
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post Aug 10 2004, 10:53 PM
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So, you're saying that it's hard to be Black? Uh, I really hope that's not what you're saying. Anyone can act ghetto without even trying that hard, but not everyone can have class.

being blak isnt about being ghetto...and its hard/frustraitin to be a black male. i mean they have to go thru dat crap wit cops always tryna get on der case n all..sh00tin n beatin em 4 no reeson at all...juss bcuz they're ridin in a nice car its like it means it has to be stolen..dats juss sad.
 
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QUOTE(kandi-chan @ Aug 10 2004, 10:53 PM)
being blak isnt about being ghetto...and its hard/frustraitin to be a black male. i mean they have to go thru dat crap wit cops always tryna get on der case n all..sh00tin n beatin em 4 no reeson at all...juss bcuz they're ridin in a nice car its like it means it has to be stolen..dats juss sad.

I don't understand, you said that "most blaks have to try to be ghetto".

Are you saying that White cops are dirty? You're basically stereotyping!!!! I work a very community oriented environment and we got White cops playing basketball with Black kids and adults, Hispanic kids and adults, Asians kids and adult, almost every week! WTF.

If someone make themselves suspicious, then cops will be suspicious. It's common sense. If cops are beating Blacks/Hispanics/Asians because of DISCRIMINATION, then they'd get sued, so AS IF criminals don't get compensation from being beaten.

What you say is totally stereotype. Yes, there are good cops and bad cops, but you made it sound like Blacks are the only one getting the heat. If you really want to get into who's more racist, I could say that Black cops are racists against Asians, too, because my Mom was pulled over while driving 48 in a 45mph zone by a Black cop and got a ticket for it. I was beat up by two Black males when I was 10 and walking home alone from school (no kidding either, I was bruised up pretty bad and they even fcuking WALKED on me when they finished having their fun).

Please, lets stop generalizing people. There are rotten apples in all races!
 
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post Aug 10 2004, 11:25 PM
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man i was gonna reply to two things from like page 6 and now i forgot cuz i dunno what everyone is talkin about now! i think this debate is DONE...

conclusion: things are the way they are, people are different and have conflicting opinions ... so just deal with it! and if you have a problem with it then you could do such things as: vote, become a politician or lobbyist, become the freakin president of the united states (f*ck bush!, sorry had to add that in tongue.gif ) orrr find a way to brainwash everyone so we all thought the same way (now how boring would life be then?)

the end. hammer.gif
 
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I don't understand, you said that "most blaks have to try to be ghetto".

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Are you saying that White cops are dirty? You're basically stereotyping!!!! I work a very community oriented environment and we got White cops playing basketball with Black kids and adults, Hispanic kids and adults, Asians kids and adult, almost every week! WTF

see now u tryna put word in my mouth. chlorie sed they had 2 try 2 be ghetto. ur tlkin 2 a diffrent person here... and i neva sed "white" cops..i sed cops..so ur automatically stereotypin me that im talkin on white cops. stubborn.gif

and if u havent noticed..some cops just like to make trouble. you dont have to be doing something that makes em suspicious. that goes bak 2 my story bout this lady i knew n her son. if walking in your neighborhood on the phone talking to someone is suspicious, then shouldnt a LOT more ppl be killed or stopped or arrested or what not? sh00t ppl walk in their neighborh00d on their cell phones all da frigign dang time. why dont they get 13 bullets put in their chests?

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What you say is totally stereotype. Yes, there are good cops and bad cops, but you made it sound like Blacks are the only one getting the heat. If you really want to get into who's more racist, I could say that Black cops are racists against Asians, too, because my Mom was pulled over while driving 48 in a 45mph zone by a Black cop and got a ticket for it. I was beat up by two black males when I was 10 and walking home alone from school (no kidding).

yea and i can say asian cops are racist against blacks. and mexican cops are racist against asians. aight so since 2 blak kids beat u up once..then automatically blacks are racist against asians eh? you're the one whos being stereotypical. i never said that black people take all the heat. so c'mon..if you wanna argue wit me..den make sense wit it..use ur common sense. id greatly appreciate that.
 
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QUOTE(kandi-chan @ Aug 10 2004, 11:30 PM)
see now u tryna put word in my mouth. chlorie sed they had 2 try 2 be ghetto. ur tlkin 2 a diffrent person here... and i neva sed "white" cops..i sed cops..so ur automatically stereotypin me that im talkin on white cops. stubborn.gif

I'm sorry for the confusion, but I don't think Black cops would discriminate Black people.

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and if u havent noticed..some cops just like to make trouble. you dont have to be doing something that makes em suspicious. that goes bak 2 my story bout this lady i knew n her son. if walking in your neighborhood on the phone talking to someone is suspicious, then shouldnt a LOT more ppl be killed or stopped or arrested or what not? sh00t ppl walk in their neighborh00d on their cell phones all da frigign dang time. why dont they get 13 bullets put in their chests?


Where does this happen? Why does it happen? What's the main race of the area? How's the crime rate and which race tops criminal activity in the that region?

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yea and i can say asian cops are racist against blacks. and mexican cops are racist against asians. aight so since 2 blak kids beat u up once..then automatically blacks are racist against asians eh? you're the one whos being stereotypical. i never said that black people take all the heat. so c'mon..if you wanna argue wit me..den make sense wit it..use ur common sense. id greatly appreciate that.


UHHH, I HOPE YOU REALIZE that I told my story because YOU TOLD YOURS, if I was as stereotype as you then I wouldn't be working with a BLACK supervisor and eating lunch with her. Damn, you're getting funnier and funnier every post.

I TOLD YOU, that there are rotten apples in every race, BUT WHY IS IT that there are Black people, like you, who thinks that everyone discriminates them. I simply told a story about getting beat up, and you automatically assumes that I hate Black people. Now, not only are you funny, you're so.... 'unthinking', and that's just a nicer way of saying STUPID.

You're just like those kids who say "you're not letting me play cuz I'm Black ain't it?" when there are 4 other kids (Asians and Hispanics) who can't play either because they were all causing trouble. That's just dumb.

And I usually don't argue with people who can't even spell, so if you want an argument, use a dictionary. rolleyes.gif
 
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I'm sorry for the confusion, but I don't think Black cops would discriminate Black people.

whites n blacks arent the only races of cops ... ermm.gif

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Where does this happen? Why does it happen? What's the main race of the area? How's the crime rate and which race tops criminal activity in the that region?

i dont remember where it happened..why it happened is cause da cop was bein like a lot of ppl in this world, stereotypin and automatically thinkin cause da boy was blak, dat hed hav a gun. and cause da cop was stupid. the area was all mixed. and i dunno da rest of ur questions missy. so wut point are u tryna make wit dis?

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UHHH, I HOPE YOU REALIZE that I told my story because YOU TOLD YOURS, if I was as stereotype as you then I wouldn't be working with a BLACK supervisor and eating lunch with her. Damn, you're getting funnier and funnier every post.

okay then tell ur story. if u were as sterotype as me? realli? whats that sposed 2 mean..and if ur tryna say if u were as "sterotypical" as me then u wudnt be workin wit a black supervisor and eatin lunch wit her then well i got a lotta white friends. ive been wit white ppl mostly all my life. and one of my best friends is white. so what says u? and im glad ur findin me to be humorous.

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I TOLD YOU, that there are rotten apples in every race, BUT WHY IS IT that there are Black people, like you, who thinks that everyone discriminates them. I simply told a story about getting beat up, and you automatically assumes that I hate Black people. Now, not only are you funny, you're so.... 'unthinking'.

haha der u go stereotypin me agin..i dont think everyone discriminates against me or my race thanks very much. and if i DID, tehn i sure as hecj wudnt have any other firends but BLACK folk. but i do. i have friends of all races os wut u wanan tell me now? and im not automatically assumin u hate black ppl..ur actin as if blacks juss seem 2 screw u over. o0o yea im unthinking and ur ignorant. so there ya go. as i said..common sense please..cause id appreciate it and therefore be happi. wink.gif
 
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excuse my souble posting but i have to correct myself.. whistling.gif pinch.gif

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tehn i sure as hecj wudnt have any other firends but BLACK folk. but i do. i have friends of all races os wut u wanan tell me now?

*then i sure as heck wudnt have any other friends but BLACK folk. but i do..i have friends of all races so wut u wanna tell me now?

thank u biggrin.gif
 
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QUOTE(kandi-chan @ Aug 10 2004, 11:49 PM)
whites n blacks arent the only races of cops ... ermm.gif

Okay then, it's settled. I'm ignorant, but thank YOU for stating the obvious. happy.gif rolleyes.gif


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i dont remember where it happened..why it happened is cause da cop was bein like a lot of ppl in this world, stereotypin and automatically thinkin cause da boy was blak, dat hed hav a gun. and cause da cop was stupid. the area was all mixed. and i dunno da rest of ur questions missy. so wut point are u tryna make wit dis?

The point is that if the area is bad, then cops have every right top stop anyone suspicious? How would you know if that cop hadn't stop a White guy an hour before getting the Black person? My point is, it's misleading to be judging only from what you see/hear from other people.

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okay then tell ur story. if u were as sterotype as me? realli? whats that sposed 2 mean..and if ur tryna say if u were as "sterotypical" as me then u wudnt be workin wit a black supervisor and eatin lunch wit her then well i got a lotta white friends. ive been wit white ppl mostly all my life. and one of my best friends is white. so what says u? and im glad ur findin me to be humorous.


rolleyes.gif Sure, one mistake and I'm just so stupid. I'm glad you make friends with all races, then what is the problem then? You feel as if the rest of the nation is hating on you and your friends? huh.gif huh.gif huh.gif?


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haha der u go stereotypin me agin.

I don't think you understand the word stereotype, and I think you meant to say 'assuming'.

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i dont think everyone discriminates against me or my race thanks very much. and if i DID, tehn i sure as hecj wudnt have any other firends but BLACK folk. but i do. i have friends of all races os wut u wanan tell me now? and im not automatically assumin u hate black ppl..ur actin as if blacks juss seem 2 screw u over. o0o yea im unthinking and ur ignorant. so there ya go. as i said..common sense please..cause id appreciate it and therefore be happi. wink.gif


How am I acting as if Blacks are screwing me over? I think you're getting too emotional over this. I'm only acting as if there are PEOPLE, in general, who thinks that they're being discriminated, when they're not, and they only use "discrimination" as an excuse to get out of trouble. Is that common sense enough for you? rolleyes.gif

Edit>>In fact, I would say the same thing over again if you were Hispanic or White. Doesn't really matter if you're Black or not, and I thought I had made this point in an earlier post... <<Edit.

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excuse my souble posting but i have to correct myself..  


Just so you know the "edit" button can help to "edit" your post without double posting........ common sense, I think.
 
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Okay then, it's settled. I'm ignorant, but thanks for stating the obvious.  

you are so welcome. biggrin.gif

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The point is that if the area is bad, then cops have every right top stop anyone suspicious? How would you know if that cop hadn't stop a White guy an hour before getting the Black person? My point is, it's misleading to be judging only from what you see/hear from other people.

actually it was an ok area. okay well he couldve stopped a white guy. with that ur very right. but that white guy who may have been stopped didnt get 13 bullets in the chest.

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Sure, one mistake and I'm just so stupid. I'm glad you make friends with all races, then what is the problem then? You feel as if the rest of the nation is hating on you and your friends?   ?

nah ppl make mistakes. im not sayin ur stupid. but i have no problem. besides da fact that ppl are racist. and why would you ask if i feel that da rest of da nation is hatin on my friends and i?

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I don't think you understand the word stereotype, and I think you mean
to say 'assuming'.

no i dun mean 'assuming'. ur placing me in a stereotype which is that blacks think everyone discriminates against them.

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How am I acting as if Blacks are screwing me over? I think you're getting too emotional over this. I'm only acting as if there are PEOPLE, in general, who thinks that they're being discriminated, when they're not, and they only use "discrimination" as an excuse to get out of trouble. Is that common sense enough for you?

well da blak cop gave ur mom a ticket. and da blak kids beat u up. i wud call dat screwin u over...but no im not gettin too emotional over this. well since black ppl like me use discrimination 2 get out of trouble. then i think i better get in some to get out of. cause i dont use discrimination 2 get out of trouble. i havent even been in trouble that i need 2 use discrmination 2 get out of. mellow.gif

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Just so you know the "edit" button can help to "edit" your post without double posting........ common sense, I think.

ya dat wud be common sense.. but im a newbie so bleh. and dat goes 2 show me dat i need 2 be more observant..oh well *shrugs* darn those newbies eh?
o wait i graduated! oh well..i still consider myself a newbie *shrugs once more*

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QUOTE(kandi-chan @ Aug 11 2004, 12:13 AM)
you are so welcome. biggrin.gif

Haha, thanks again for answering to mere rhetoric.

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actually it was an ok area. okay well he couldve stopped a white guy. with that ur very right. but that white guy who may have been stopped didnt get 13 bullets in the chest.

Well, even though a White guy didn't died that day due to this kind of shooting, he could've died a day(s) before in the same situation. If indeed the policeman was racist, then he's just one of many rotten apples.

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nah ppl make mistakes. im not sayin ur stupid. but i have no problem. besides da fact that ppl are racist. and why would you ask if i feel that da rest of da nation is hatin on my friends and i?


I asked because I'm confused on why you're arguing with me huh.gif.

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no i dun mean 'assuming'. ur placing me in a stereotype which is that blacks think everyone discriminates against them.


I would NOT generalize unless the situation demands that I must. However, I NEVER once said that ALL Blacks think everyone discriminate them, but I said there are BLACK/ASIANS/HISPANICS who thinks that people discriminates them when it isn't the case. I believe I specifically said this in an earlier post.

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well da blak cop gave ur mom a ticket. and da blak kids beat u up. i wud call dat screwin u over...but no im not gettin too emotional over this. well since black ppl like me use discrimination 2 get out of trouble. then i think i better get in some to get out of. cause i dont use discrimination 2 get out of trouble. i havent even been in trouble that i need 2 use discrmination 2 get out of. 

I don't feel screw over, and neither does my Mom. Why? Getting beat up/bullied is a part of growing up. Sure, I hated the two Blacks that beat up me up as a child, but I don't hate every person of color. That would be like hating life, and I don't approve of that. My Mom is going to court to get rid of that ticket. She believes that because cops needs to give out a certain number of tickets by the end of the month, and that cop just needed one more so he pulled her over. She believes she ran out of luck, and so do I, because I was speeding like crazy on the same day and didn't get in trouble.

I never said that every single Black person use discrimination as an excuse, I said the words "there are" Black people (and I said Asians and Hispanics in an earlier post) who would do it.

But when they do it in the wrong situation, which seems to be the case most of the time, it's offensive to others. Not everyone is out to get someone else in trouble, but there are people who wants to do the right thing, but gets labled as being racist for it by the unthoughtfulness of others.

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ya dat wud be common sense.. but im a newbie so i wudnt kno. *shrugs* darn those newbies eh?

this stuffs gettin borin


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Haha, thanks again for answering to mere rhetoric.

exactly

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Well, even though a White guy didn't died that day due to this kind of shooting, he could've died a day(s) before in the same situation. If indeed the policeman was racist, then he's just one of many rotten apples.

he sure was a loser..and a "rotten apple"

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I asked because I'm confused on why you're arguing with me .

i wasnt arugin u to begin wit. i was answerin ur earlier post. and im arugin bout bein stereotypical/ so why u arguin wit me?

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I would NOT generalize unless the situation demands that I must. However, I NEVER once said that ALL Blacks think everyone discriminate them, but I said there are BLACK/ASIANS/HISPANICS who thinks that people discriminates them when it isn't the case. I believe I specifically said this in an earlier post.

i didnt say u created dat stereotype. i said u were placin me in it.

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I don't feel screw over, and neither does my Mom. Why? Getting beat up/bullied is a part of growing up. Sure, I hated the two Blacks that beat up me up as a child, but I don't hate every person of color. That would be like hating life, and I don't approve of that. My Mom is going to court to get rid of that ticket. She believes that because cops needs to give out a certain number of tickets by the end of the month, and that cop just needed one more so he pulled her over.

ok then thats great.

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never said that every single Black person use discrimination, I said the words "there are" Black people (and I said Asians and Hispanics in an earlier post) who would do it.

and i kno u dint. and im arguin wit dat cuz u sed i was one of those ppl. which im not. which brings more to this argument.

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If it's boring then go to sleep.

i never sleep dis earli...but my bros kickin me off anyway so it don matta
 
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QUOTE(kandi-chan @ Aug 11 2004, 12:33 AM)
exactly

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he sure was a loser..and a "rotten apple"


But that doesn't mean that there aren't rotten apples in other races.

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i wasnt arugin u to begin wit. i was answerin ur earlier post. and im arugin bout bein stereotypical/ so why u arguin wit me?

I don't like it when people use discrimination as an excuse, and I thought that was what you were aiming at with your story about the Black man getting shot.

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i didnt say u created dat stereotype. i said u were placin me in it.

Erm, I'm not saying that you said that I created that stereotype, but I did say that you are assuming that I hate Blacks just because of my unfortunate event with two rotten apples.

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ok then thats great.

Yea, the world isn't as negative as people think. We just tend to make it look negative by thinking that it is.

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and i kno u dint. and im arguin wit dat cuz u sed i was one of those ppl. which im not. which brings more to this argument.

I know that I did. I bet someone quoted me and you can read it so that you know that I didn't change anything I said, and that I DID say the words "there are". Ask anyone who has argued with me before or read some of my previous arguments, and they'd tell you that I don't like generalizations unless in certain situations.

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i never sleep dis earli...but my bros kickin me off anyway so it don matta

Too bad.
 
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But that doesn't mean that there aren't rotten apples in other races.

exactly. i never said there werent. i was juss tlkin bout dat cop.

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I don't like it when people use discrimination as an excuse, and I thought that was what you were aiming at with your story about the Black man getting shot.

okay then. well you obviousli thot wrong.

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Erm, I'm not saying that you said that I created that stereotype, but I did say that you are assuming that I hate Blacks just because of my unfortunate event with two rotten apples.

oh forgive me. im just so "unthinking" and no i wasnt assumin u hate blaks cuz of dat. U are assuming things.

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I know that I did. I bet someone quoted me and you can read it so that you know that I didn't change anything I said, and that I DID say the words "there are". Ask anyone who has argued with me before or read some of my previous arguments, and they'd tell you that I don't like generalizations unless in certain situations

mmhmm... and to ur previous comments which didnt come up when i read ur post
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You're just like those kids who say "you're not letting me play cuz I'm Black ain't it?" when there are 4 other kids (Asians and Hispanics) who can't play either because they were all causing trouble. That's just dumb.

there ya go assuming crap.

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assuming once again. whistling.gif i can spell thanks very much. im just lazy. which means im not gonna spell out every darn word da way u wud like me 2. even if its juss 1 more letter 2 type. laziness is a factor so ill do as i please thanks. and im done wit dis "debate" cuz its basically over. i dont have time to be placed in any stereotypes nor lisen to u assuming all these different things which u kno nothin about or anythin like dat. so im finished. t00 borin. what you say i find to be nonsensical.
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i feel u but there was sumthng wrong in there doe like i <3 all races but i dont thnk black ppl shud do the sme 2 whites 2 rongs dont make it riite nd we shud just let it pass and live life 2 the fullest most blacks arent african so not all blacks are african american...i hate it wen ppl call blacks that -this is mi opinion
 
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QUOTE(kandi-chan @ Aug 11 2004, 3:49 PM)
exactly. i never said there werent. i was juss tlkin bout dat cop.

Then you should've made that clear. It seems like you're saying that White cops are bad cops because they pick on Black folks.

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okay then. well you obviousli thot wrong.

Obviously, you need to get your points straighten out before telling a story. Otherwise, people will think the wrong things.

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oh forgive me. im just so "unthinking" and no i wasnt assumin u hate blaks cuz of dat. U are assuming things.

Maybe I assumed it because you sounded like you meant it that way?

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mmhmm... and to ur previous comments which didnt come up when i read ur post

Then maybe you shouldn't accuse me of something that YOU haven't read? That's like saying I stole from someone even though you don't even know me or who I stole from or what exactly it was that I stole.

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there ya go assuming crap.

I'm not assuming, because that's the image that you made yourself turn out to be. In my opinion, that's exactly who you remind me of.


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assuming once again.  whistling.gif i can spell thanks very much. im just lazy. which means im not gonna spell out every darn word da way u wud like me 2. even if its juss 1 more letter 2 type. laziness is a factor so ill do as i please thanks. and im done wit dis "debate" cuz its basically over. i dont have time to be placed in any stereotypes nor lisen to u assuming all these different things which u kno nothin about or anythin like dat. so im finished. t00 borin. what you say i find to be nonsensical.


Okay, I find what you say to be childish, and I thought to teach you a few things... But never mind. But I will leave you with one thing: try to open your mind to possibilities. Don't assume you know the crime when you were never there to witness it. Sure, some hearsay may be true, while others are very misleading. Thanks.
 
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yknow the only people who have persecuted white people are .. uh..other white people. theres an asian american/ pacific islander month and black history month because the two ethnicities have suffered so much persecution from the majority race and have SURVIVED, that people thought it was important to emphasize on the history of both cultures, to educate not only people of that ethnicity, but white children too. Why isnt there a white history month? because you guys have independance day, memorial day, etc. you're taught AMERICAN history at school, all your life.

no one said it was okay to call someone a wigger or cracker. you think white people are offended because the word "wigger" is being said a lot? well the words "nigger," "spic," and "gook," are being said a whole damned lot as well.

"middle eastren american"s are reffered to as asian americans.

QUOTE(jk9286 @ Aug 6 2004, 7:17 PM)
You're right. People do tend to get all hype and anxious if there's something like that about african americans. But they think it's funny when people say racist things about white people.

For example, the movie 'white chicks'. What the freak? I wonder what would've happend if someone made a movie called 'black chicks'. lol probably the director and producer would get sued right away.

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QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Aug 7 2004, 12:35 AM)
im sorry to burst ur bubble brownsugar but history is history....
its not our fault.... its the enslavors....
we should be sorry but i think its going a little too far now....
other races were slaves also....
for example.... Macedonians (i no its not a race but its a nationality) were slaves to the Turkish for over 500 years yes u heard me.... 500 years.... and whats done is done.... we dont make the turkish paying for it.... for example.... theres this one thing in america that if ur black or mexican.... u get an extra point on ur sat per question.... and the other thing where they hiyer (i dont no how to spell it) blacks over whites or something.... i mean

come on.... thats going a little too far.... whats over with is over with....

I think this should be moved to Debate happy.gif

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post Aug 11 2004, 06:11 PM
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Historically, the most persecuted group as been the Jews, and they are doing just fine today. Historical persecution is no excuse for not taking responsibility today.

Every ethnic group coming to the United States was persecuted at first. Asians, Irish, etc. were all treated as basically slaves, even though they weren't slaves in name. In fact, Southern Planters would rather hire an Irishman for a dangeroous job than a slave, because the Irish were cheaper. Yet all of those ethnic groups managed to climb up the social leader and achieve respect by the Anglo-Saxons.

Why not African-Americans? Because many (even not most -- a sizeable minority) are caught up in the past and refuse to take responsibility for today.

There are many successful African-Americans ... who do not practice what they preach (in a good way). Jesse Jackson, Johnny Cochran, etc., are people who say "race matters every day." But it doesn't. If you look at what they did in their private lives, they never thoguht to themsleves "oh, it's not my fault i'm poor, the white man is keeping me down" -- it is people who think like that who STAY down.

Every persecuted group in history -- including groups like the Chinese and Jews (10 million and 6 million killed in ethnic-based genoicdes, respectively) who have historically been persecuted much more than African-Americans -- has been able to rise to the top -- because their socieites didn't have people who were already at the top saying "It's not your fault, it's history's fault."

Responsibility is the key to liberty, and liberty is the key to a raceless society. On the other hand, the victim mentality is the key to big brother government and political correctness, which will only perpetuate racism forever.
 
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when we use terms like white and black and asian and mexican, we assume all whites are the same and all blacks are the same and all asians are the same and all mexicans are the same. we also assume that all whites are different from all other races, and all blacks are different from all other races, and all asians are different from all other races, and all mexicans are different from all other races.

is the the word 'race' racist in itself?

ethnicity is just a euthinization of the word.

to classifiy someone as a certain race is the first step in treating them differently.

which is why, whenever possible, i scribble on the racist portion of the demographics section

"I AM AMERICAN"

as a true american, not an asian american.
 
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QUOTE(brownsugar08 @ Aug 11 2004, 7:05 PM)
^^ there's an asian history month?
hmm..not to be mean but i'm just wondering..what have asians been through again? im not being sarcastic
so anyway..
i thought we were agreeing to disagree...?
so much for that


*Fae and Kandi..you seem to be in your own fight*

...learn your history.

When they immigrated from asia to america, they were extremely discriminated against.
the Mi-Lai slaughter.
When they locked asian-american people up in those concentration camps after pearl harbor, even though they had nothing to do with it.

Lots lots more.
 
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black history month is paying respects of culture.

white history month is pure racism.

is it me, or is this just a snapshot of the world, still the undeveloped negative.
 
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i agree wit u 2 nekked.

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Then you should've made that clear. It seems like you're saying that White cops are bad cops because they pick on Black folks.

and no ur the one who automatically assumed that. i made it clear enough cause i dint say "white cop".

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Okay, I find what you say to be childish, and I thought to teach you a few things... But never mind. But I will leave you with one thing: try to open your mind to possibilities. Don't assume you know the crime when you were never there to witness it. Sure, some hearsay may be true, while others are very misleading. Thanks.

thats great. i think youre just arguing for the sake of arguing so im done wit u now.

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*Fae and Kandi..you seem to be in your own fight*

yea i think she likes arguin wit me for some reeson haha.
 

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