is there an heaven and a hell??, and which one are you going to? Options

[LiNHy POO]

well me and my boyfriend were talking a few nights ago.. like the title says.. personally.. i believe in greek myth.. and think that everyone goes to the underworld.. ruled by hades.. i dont know if there really is a heavan.. and i dont care where i go.. all i know is that im gonna be buried in the ground..

[*RiC3xBoy*]

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Heaven and Hell are just there to scare us into being good.
IMO.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

yes, i totally agree, to me, its not different than telling a good being good for christmas will get u presents

[*CEP*]

Well hell is only suffering ... do you see live on Earth as only suffering?

I think there is more good than bad here.

Wow. There's nothing about Russia or whatever in that post.
Amazing.
*claps*

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[CloudUnionX]

I am really distant from religion, therefore I have no clue whether there is or is not a heaven or hell, it doesnt really matter to me anyways.

[Guarneri]

THERE SURE IS!

[ComradeRed]

Think about this:

If all non-Christians went to Hell, that means MOST of the people in the world -- including MOST of hte good people, and most of hte interesting historical figures that we hear about.

But then, if so many interesting people are in hell, and far fewer are in heaven, it follows that one can actually meet more good, interesting people in hell. In this way, some people may actually enjoy hell more than heaven, thus making hell heaven and heaven hell.

Idea Originally Proposed by: Niccolo Machiavelli, Italian Philosopher, who said on his deathbed that for that reason, he would rather go to Hell and talk to Plato, Caesar, Aristotle, etc., than to mingle with "boring" people in Heaven.

[Spirited Away]

Think about this:

If all non-Christians went to Hell, that means MOST of the people in the world -- including MOST of hte good people, and most of hte interesting historical figures that we hear about.

But then, if so many interesting people are in hell, and far fewer are in heaven, it follows that one can actually meet more good, interesting people in hell. In this way, some people may actually enjoy hell more than heaven, thus making hell heaven and heaven hell.

Idea Originally Proposed by: Niccolo Machiavelli, Italian Philosopher, who said on his deathbed that for that reason, he would rather go to Hell and talk to Plato, Caesar, Aristotle, etc., than to mingle with "boring" people in Heaven.

I'm all for it.

James A Haught's 2000 years of Disbelief documents some of the world's most famous figures in history to be skeptics and non-believers. Hell would definately be interesting.

[aznxdreamer]

i think theres only a heaven, and heaven is whatever you want it to be. so, whatever you want the most, it would be heaven.

[DarkCrescentMoon]

ah...interesting! i'm going to go to purgatory. i know it.

reasons why i'm gonna go to purgatory:

1. no one is perfect. I screwed up life a couple of times

2. i try to be a good catholic. i believe in god.

I will screw up life more. hopefully not as much for that i go into hell...

purgatory is a place of suffereing...

the earth is a place of suffereing...


maybe the world is purgatory..

so..my body will still be left on Eath.

[*RiC3xBoy*]

wasnt purgatory the "third final destination"

[black_cloud10]

Think about this:

If all non-Christians went to Hell, that means MOST of the people in the world -- including MOST of hte good people, and most of hte interesting historical figures that we hear about.

wow sounds like me last summer.... you know i actually calculated how many people (in theory) are going to tell? was like 6billion people... i think... 2/3s of the world's population. and thats just everyone living now, not counting everyone thats already died. hell must be overflowing... probably split into earth and thats why things get so bad sometimes??

heh, sometimes i have the logic of a child. ty for the dante's inferno test. haven't checked my hell level in awhile..

Seventh Level of Hell

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Guarded by the Minotaur, who snarls in fury, and encircled within the river Phlegethon, filled with boiling blood, is the Seventh Level of Hell. The violent, the assasins, the tyrants, and the war-mongers lament their pitiless mischiefs in the river, while centaurs armed with bows and arrows shoot those who try to escape their punishment. The stench here is overpowering. This level is also home to the wood of the suicides- stunted and gnarled trees with twisting branches and poisoned fruit. At the time of final judgement, their bodies will hang from their branches. In those branches the Harpies, foul birdlike creatures with human faces, make their nests. Beyond the wood is scorching sand where those who committed violence against God and nature are showered with flakes of fire that rain down against their naked bodies. Blasphemers and sodomites writhe in pain, their tongues more loosed to lamentation, and out of their eyes gushes forth their woe. Usurers, who followed neither nature nor art, also share company in the Seventh Level.

[Ze world is a Ma...]

WHO GIVES A FFING CARE? WE'LL KNOW WHEN WE DIE SHEES

[DittotoAnne18]

heaven and hell are less real to me then never never land. and if their were a heaven and hell, everyone would go to hell. theres no way you can't sin. no possible way.

thats why the christians believe they have to ask for forgivness

but for me, i dont believe in heaven or hell - i believe when you die..everything just...stops.

[gerundio]

there is no such thing as hell.

[Mick3Y]

Honestly i dun beleive in it...

- Tran -

[raw_material]

we are all destined to die once.... heaven is a gift of God...For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of Godis eternal Life...

[XxaznskoolgurlxX]

honestly...i think the world we live in now is both heaven and hell...not exactly sure why i think that though..but...if we die in this world, are we going to a new one?? or are we suppose to live in this same world with the "living" and watch them?? n how do we know if there is "life" after death?? uh yeah...((sorry about the questions))..

[xnastyninjagrlx]

I totally believe in Hell and Heaven. THere is always a balance in this world, white black. good and evil, man and woman...I think if you live right now thinking that you are placed on this earth with NO PURPOSe but juss to live and die, I juss think that's pointless. There has got to be a resaon we are here..and personally I would want to enter the gates of heaven.

[Spirited Away]

THere is always a balance in this world, white black. good and evil, man and woman...I think if you live right now thinking that you are placed on this earth with NO PURPOSe but juss to live and die, I juss think that's pointless. There has got to be a resaon we are here..and personally I would want to enter the gates of heaven.

There are black and white, but don't forget shades of gray and other colors in between.

There are good and evil, but how about doing evil because you are forced to do it to save someone else's life? Or doing good, but all for the wrong reasons?

Actually, it's only in your point of view that people have no purpose if they don't believe in the concept of Heaven and Hell. I find that life is FULL of meanings and purposes that are just waiting to be discovered and I don't even believe in Heaven/Hell... How is it that you think we have no purpose in life?

[xnastyninjagrlx]

I find that life is FULL of meanings and purposes that are just waiting to be discovered and I don't even believe in Heaven/Hell... How is it that you think we have no purpose in life?

yah I believe everyone has their own successes, wishes, desires, and purpose in life. But what about after life? Do you really think we are on this earth to just live life and die? My view is not how you live on earth, but what exactly is going to happen once you die. If your time on earth were all there is to life, then we can forget about being good and ethical, and you wouldn't have to worry about any consequences of your actions. What is the point anyway to go to skewl, to work..etc? TO have a successful life? But that does not mean you can take all those successes with you when you die? So wouldn't it be pointless to live day to day knowing death can come anytime and end ur success right there. I juss believe there has got to be more in life, than the life on earth.

But then, if so many interesting people are in hell, and far fewer are in heaven, it follows that one can actually meet more good, interesting people in hell. In this way, some people may actually enjoy hell more than heaven, thus making hell heaven and heaven hell.

They wouldn't call it "hell" for no reason if everyone is having a good o' time in hell. If that was the case, everyone can just do whatever they please. Hell is not a happy place that most people picture it. It is full of suffering, pain, crying,..etc. nonstop. People are not celebrating or even partying in hell. But it is your own opinion on weather the people are more interesting in hell, but it doesn't mean that people in heaven are less interesting.

[Spirited Away]

yah I believe everyone has their own successes, wishes, desires, and purpose in life. But what about after life? Do you really think we are on this earth to just live life and die?

Why do you focus on life, death and suffering? There are things in between, like I have said. Instead of black and white, think of the other colors (love, friends, family, companionship, obstacles... etc). In life, there are myriads of things to live for. I've NEVER said that we are here to live and die, in fact, my purpose in life is simply to live. Death is inevitable, something that no man can cheat, so why worry about it?

My view is not how you live on earth, but what exactly is going to happen once you die. If your time on earth were all there is to life, then we can forget about being good and ethical, and you wouldn't have to worry about any consequences of your actions. What is the point anyway to go to skewl, to work..etc? TO have a successful life? But that does not mean you can take all those successes with you when you die? So wouldn't it be pointless to live day to day knowing death can come anytime and end ur success right there. I juss believe there has got to be more in life, than the life on earth.

Ah, I see. While you believe that the afterlife is more important, and choose to be content with believing life after death, I choose to be content with focusing on living. There may be Heaven and Hell, but there may also be another life, or perhaps nothing in Death, but I do not wonder about that.

Do you know what success means? How do you define success for yourself? As for me, success means being happy with who I am and what I've accomplished. At this day and age, there are many who realize that tangible wealth doesn't mean success. Success doesn't always mean money, big houses, luxury cars, it could mean loving family or/and peace of mind. I'll be extra happy if I can be wealthy, but I'll be just as successful as Bill Gates if I can raise my family to contribute positively to society, because then I have attained something I've desired my whole life.

As for taking those success with me, I do not wish for my family to die with me, I would prefer they live and find out their own purposes.

I can die tonight, or perhaps the next day... but those thought won't stop me from living. Don't get me wrong, I am scared of Death, but I'm not going to let the fear of the inevitable stop me from living my dreams.

Some Christians say they welcome Death, because It will allow them to be in the presence of their eternal Father, which I have absolutely no qualms against, but that doesn't mean that Christians are right about how to live. Some people live for Christ, others live for money, and there are those who live... to live (with all the colors in between).

[MusicalAngel]

i believe in a heaven and hell. i believe that those who accept Christ as their personal Savior will go to heaven, and those who don't that don't.

I agree. As a Christian, you don't HAVE to be good to go to heaven. Jesus died on the cross so that we would have the safety gate to heaven THROUGH HIM. If you believe in Jesus and have faith in Him, you WILL be guarenteed a passageway to heaven, regardless of what you've done. Hell was created for Satan and his demons. If you DO NOT believe in Jesus and have faith in Him, then that is where you will go. In the Bible, Jesus forgave a woman who committed adultery and let her into heaven... why? Because she BELIEVED. Yeah... so that's it. LOL

Sorry if it sounded like i was preaching... i'm just letting you all know the facts. It's in the Bible. I promise. You don't have to EARN your passageway to heaven... you just have to believe.

[Spirited Away]

I agree. As a Christian, you don't HAVE to be good to go to heaven. Jesus died on the cross so that we would have the safety gate to heaven THROUGH HIM.

Ah, is that how it is, truly? The bad have a chance to Heaven, while those who are virtuous will go to Hell doubtlessly, what a lovely system it seems.

Edit> I perfer Angel's version even though I don't quite understand it.

[gerundio]

I agree. As a Christian, you don't HAVE to be good to go to heaven. Jesus died on the cross so that we would have the safety gate to heaven THROUGH HIM. If you believe in Jesus and have faith in Him, you WILL be guarenteed a passageway to heaven, regardless of what you've done. Hell was created for Satan and his demons. If you DO NOT believe in Jesus and have faith in Him, then that is where you will go. In the Bible, Jesus forgave a woman who committed adultery and let her into heaven... why? Because she BELIEVED. Yeah... so that's it. LOL

Hell doesn't exist, but let's say it did.

So according to you, every good moral person who lived before Jesus went to Hell. How about the tribes that live in places like the Amazon and Indonesia and who may have absolutely no contact with the outside world. They never have heard of Christ or the Christian God for that matter. Do these people go to Hell? Do the people of other religions -- Buddhism, Hinduism, etc. -- go to Hell because they were brought up with other beliefs?

This has to be one of the most ignorant comments I have read so far.

[MusicalAngel]

That is the sole difference between Christianity and other religions... we all believe in a God, but in Christianity, Jesus paid the dues for us to go to heaven. He died on the cross and sacrificed himself... no other relgion pays the price like he did. I'm just saying what i was taught... i'm not trying to pick a fight here or anything. I'm just trying to get you to understand that you don't have to be GOOD or EARN your way into heaven. As long as you believe in Jesus Christ then you have a safeway into heaven- GRANTED of course that you believe in the Lord, Jesus Christ. Jesus loves us no matter what mistakes we make. He is forgiving... and loves us unconditionally. That's what it says in the Bible. When He died on the cross God said... IT IS DONE. What is done? The deal is sealed. We have a safety way into heaven... because Jesus paid the price.

I tried to be more specific so that you could understand it. But i will say again that i'm not trying to pick a fight or be ignorant. I'm just stating what the Bible says. That's all.

[gerundio]

That is the sole difference between Christianity and other religions... we all believe in a God, but in Christianity, Jesus paid the dues for us to go to heaven. He died on the cross and sacrificed himself... no other relgion pays the price like he did. I'm just saying what i was taught... i'm not trying to pick a fight here or anything. I'm just trying to get you to understand that you don't have to be GOOD or EARN your way into heaven. As long as you believe in Jesus Christ then you have a safeway into heaven- GRANTED of course that you believe in the Lord, Jesus Christ. Jesus loves us no matter what mistakes we make. He is forgiving... and loves us unconditionally. That's what it says in the Bible. When He died on the cross God said... IT IS DONE. What is done? The deal is sealed. We have a safety way into heaven... because Jesus paid the price.

I tried to be more specific so that you could understand it. But i will say again that i'm not trying to pick a fight or be ignorant. I'm just stating what the Bible says. That's all.

You in no way answered the questions I asked.