Why Bush is a horrible president, And why the war is pointless |
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 Jul 20 2004, 04:22 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless  Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761  |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 4:20 PM) Car accidents alone aren't the only thing marijuana increases the chance of... But still, marijuana itself isn't bad ... it just increases the chances of a bad thing happening. |
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Jul 20 2004, 09:15 PM
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When did this topic turn into a drug related one? Boy I haven't been here in a while.
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Jul 20 2004, 09:43 PM
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 dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
iraqi war, that is.
saddam had no WMDs, there was no reason for us to be there. no wonder saddam couldn't give them over, they wern't there. you can't deny that he tricked america into the iraqi war. he's just looking for revenge. |
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Jul 20 2004, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 20 2004, 7:43 PM) iraqi war, that is. saddam had no WMDs, there was no reason for us to be there. no wonder saddam couldn't give them over, they wern't there. you can't deny that he tricked america into the iraqi war. he's just looking for revenge. Revenge??? Because Saddam wanted to kill Bush Senior? |
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Jul 20 2004, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 3:50 PM) Um...sorry, but that has no relevence to this topic, does it? I was just trying to prove Edwards' good looks! LOL! Sheesh....have a little sense of humor...I was just trying to lighten up the mood....rawr! 
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Jul 20 2004, 10:25 PM
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*rawr*
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Jul 20 2004, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE saddam had no WMDs, there was no reason for us to be there. no wonder saddam couldn't give them over, they wern't there. you can't deny that he tricked america into the iraqi war. he's just looking for revenge. We didn't find them because they had time to move them. We didn't instantly go to war with them. Besides, what were we supposed to do? Twiddle our thumbs and hope they weren't there until he used them? Revenge for what, exactly? |
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Jul 21 2004, 07:07 AM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jul 20 2004, 11:45 PM) We didn't find them because they had time to move them. We didn't instantly go to war with them. Besides, what were we supposed to do? Twiddle our thumbs and hope they weren't there until he used them? Revenge for what, exactly? So... let me get this straight... You think that after we invaded Iraq, they moved their weapons... as opposed to use them? If you were invaded, and you had a powerful weapon, wouldn't it be in your best interest to use it... especially if it was your only hope of standing a chance? |
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Jul 21 2004, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 21 2004, 7:07 AM) If you were invaded, and you had a powerful weapon, wouldn't it be in your best interest to use it... especially if it was your only hope of standing a chance? I think it depends, some people like to bide their time thinking that they would survive and then get revenge and Saddam could've been thinking that. Or perhaps the WMDs weren't his to utilize, but his job/contract was only to have them in storage for a big attack and when we went to war, the owners of the WMDs took them back? |
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Jul 21 2004, 12:52 PM
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Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
What "owners"? If Hussein had nuclear weapons, he would've been the one producing them. Furthermore, we crushed him in 1990. Since then, we've had ten years of technical progress and he's had ten years of technical decline. If he had WMDs, they would hvae been his only chance.
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Jul 21 2004, 01:01 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 21 2004, 12:52 PM) What "owners"? Perhaps there is an underground network of contract for moving/transporting WMD. QUOTE If Hussein had nuclear weapons, he would've been the one producing them. Furthermore, we crushed him in 1990. Since then, we've had ten years of technical progress and he's had ten years of technical decline. If he had WMDs, they would hvae been his only chance. His only chance against the US military force? I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to risk provoking America even more so soon after 9/11. He would have given it to someone else (for safe keeping?) to take revenge at a time when we're vulnerable instead of when everyone's still angry, thinking that he would get out of this bruised, but alive. Of course this is all theorectically speaking, and I have no proof of what I say. |
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Jul 21 2004, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 21 2004, 1:01 PM) Perhaps there is an underground network of contract for moving/transporting WMD. His only chance against the US military force? I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to risk provoking America even more so soon after 9/11. He would have given it to someone else (for safe keeping?) to take revenge at a time when we're vulnerable instead of when everyone's still angry, thinking that he would get out of this bruised, but alive. Of course this is all theorectically speaking, and I have no proof of what I say. How is he going to get revenge when, chances are, he will be executed? And he definitely knew that he was going to be, because that is what he would do himself. |
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Jul 21 2004, 01:13 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 21 2004, 1:08 PM) How is he going to get revenge when, chances are, he will be executed? And he definitely knew that he was going to be, because that is what he would do himself. So, you really think that he'll be executed? Well, I've never thought of it that way. Who knows? I want him to be excuted, but what if he just get imprisoned? It happens. But even if he knew he was going to die, he could've just send the WMD away to be used for some diabolical plot he cooked up with other terrorist leaders. But... I think I might be thinking too much/too little into it... |
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Jul 21 2004, 02:55 PM
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President Bush is horrible because he uses religion and patriotism to get what he wants, such as Iraq War.
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Jul 21 2004, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE President Bush is horrible because he uses religion and patriotism to get what he wants, such as Iraq War. Um...can you explain that to me? 
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Jul 21 2004, 08:40 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
bush plays upon american's emotions, using the patriotism from the 9/11 attacks to fuel the iraqi war, even thou they were not connected.
and if bush is the best president, ridding dictators with WMDs, then why hasn't he attacked north korea?!? it's because, saddam tried to kill daddy bush. and sadam never had WMDs. they found no facilities. do you know everything you need to make a nueclear bomb? it takes thousands of people. chemical weapons, albeit, are easier to produce. but you still need masses of manpower to make them. again, not evident. QUOTE We didn't find them because they had time to move them. We didn't instantly go to war with them. Besides, what were we supposed to do? Twiddle our thumbs and hope they weren't there until he used them? Revenge for what, exactly? yes. he didn't have any. he wasn't using any. he wasn't bothering anyone with any WMDs. he didn't have any since the first gulf war. "it is the old men who decide if we go to war, and it is the young ones who have to fight it." - loose quotation of a separate peace |
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Jul 22 2004, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE "it is the old men who decide if we go to war, and it is the young ones who have to fight it." he lied, they died, keep the pesants terrified. ~otep bush calls iraq and n. korea the "axis of evil". evil. like the Devil. like in religion. if you're not against iraq you're against god and going to hell. it's like the F**king salem witch trials. if you don't blindly wave your flag you're some kinds of terrorist or anarchist and you're "evil". |
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Jul 22 2004, 05:35 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
bush is a coward. he knew iraq didn't have WMDs, so it's safe to attack iraq. whereas, N korea, the biggest threat now, has WMDs, so naturally, he's afraid of them and won't attack.
it's the Nueclear power club. if you're in it, the US doesn't dare attack you. |
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Jul 22 2004, 07:12 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
So who do you have in mind to be the next president? Do you think he'll do a better job of it than Bush?
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Jul 22 2004, 08:12 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
bush.
he got us into this mess, he should get us out. |
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Jul 22 2004, 09:16 PM
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Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 22 2004, 8:12 PM) bush. he got us into this mess, he should get us out. That's what many Americans believe, but I think Kerry supporters say they want Kerry to have a go at this whole thing... which I don't think is a very good idea. |
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Jul 23 2004, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 22 2004, 8:12 PM) bush. he got us into this mess, he should get us out. Do you think he'll be able to get us out of this mess? |
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Jul 23 2004, 04:28 PM
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Yeah, do u really think he'll be able to get us out?
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Jul 23 2004, 05:24 PM
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Well, it sure looks like he's trying. I mean, honestly, what would Kerry do better than Bush? He voted for the war, and he said he was going to continue with it if he's elected...so I don't really see why people would vote for him...
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Jul 23 2004, 06:27 PM
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dripping destruction Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 7,282 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,929 |
honestly, i think bush will do a better job of getting us out of this mess, since he knows exactly what happened to get us in there, and plus, it's his war.
but it's because he got us into this mess, that i don't like him. i abided by him in the begining, untill he attacked iraq. this country is going to suffer because of this war, regardless of who leads us through it. bush might have caused it- but i think he is the best one to get us out. |
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