wats u top 10 best rapper? Options

[DavidxN]

Kanye West should be on everyone's top 1

[WTFwasIthinking]

1. 2 Pac [ truly the greatest ]
2. B.I.G [ his songs actually talks about his life]
3. Eminem [ the best white rapper ]
4. Twista [ the fastest rapper i noe]
5. Nelly [ one of the best rappers ]
6. P Diddy [ a bad boy for lyfe ]
7. Chingy [ he is truly the jackpot]
8. Mase [ came with a come back]
9. Jay Z [ all his songs flows ]
10. Lil Jon [ haha wut can i say about lil jon jus great lol...]

you have no idea what you're talkin' about if Chingy, Mase, Lil Jon (who's actually a prodcucer and not a rapper), and Diddy (who always has ghostwriters) on ya list... Twista shouldn't be there......

2Pac and Big are 2 of the Biggest misconceptions of who's the greatest... they're DEFINITELY not

Kanye West should be on everyone's top 1

he's an AVERAGE MC with sick sick beats

my favorite producer since '99 but definitely not the best rapper though College Dropout is a GREAT album IMO

they are not in order...they are just names
Eminem
Jay-Z
Kanye West
Chingy
G-Unit
Dr. Dre
Obie Trice
Big Tymers
Twista
Ludacris

im not countin tupac cuz hes not alive

Kanye - already stated why he's not

Chingy, terrible MC - catchy hooks and hot beats make 'em

G-Unit's garbage with the exception of Lloyd Banks but Banks is fallin' off from what he used to spit before 50's album came out... peep Funk Flex "so-called freestyles"

Dr. Dre has ghostwriters all the time (Royce da 5'9 bein' one) and he's not even that nice lyrically..... great GREAT producer though

Big Tymers suck..... CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE THEY'RE ON A LIST

Obie's a decent 2 barely above average MC

Twista = get the f*ck outta here

Luda got potential and has one of the hottest deliveries but talks about nothing with relevance... plus, 90% of the time he comes garbage... once in a while he'll surprise me... actually outshined Jada and Nas on Made You Look Remix

"Got more shit out on the streets than evicted tennants"

dass what i'm talkin' 'bout.... but still not even close to top 10

[RuffRyderzUsmc]

These arnet in any real order cause I like them all

1. Tupac
2. Dmx
3. Jay Z
4. 50 Cent
5. Ludacris
6. Drag On
7. RuffRyderz
8. T.I.
9. Trick Daddy
10. Juvenile

[h22fanatik]

it's not opinion... it's fact because rappin' is more technical than the average person thinks....

they didn't have the technical things down.... I'm assuming you're mostly a mainstream listener... that's why mainstream rap, at least 85/90% of it sucks right now....

cuz nobody knows what hip hop as a culture/rapping (the skill) is about....

and you said you loved Pac and Biggie even when they were alive....  timeout, this isn't about who's your top 10 favorite, iss about who's the top 10 best

they probably were two of the most loved and influencial because the love they received but they STILL didn't receive half the love until they were murdered... they weren't proclaimed the best of alltime 'til they were murdered either

listen to Dead Wrong remix feat. Eminem.... Eminem clearly makes Notorious sound like an amateur... his syllable rhyming is ridiculous in that song... his delivery has less holes, just straight up nonsense

and as I said, this is about the top 10 best, not top 10 favorite.... that's not my list for favorite either because my favorite list goes differently...

1) Em
2) Talib Kweli
3) Copywrite
4) Pharoahe Monch
5) Royce da 5'9
6) Hov - Jigga - S dot Carter - Jay-Z
7) Mos Def
8) Fabolous (his mixtape sh*t is crazy)
9) Common
10) Rakim

wrong. it's the best rappers IN UR OPINION! get it straight...everyone thinks differently and have different tastes. u can't convince someone to think the same way as u. be a lil open minded and have more respect for other pplz opinion, not just urs.

[Yemmerz]

How exactly is this debate?
What are we gonna debate about how "phat" tupac is since he's 1st in your list?

- Moved to Entertainment -

- Chinkieeyedpnoi <-- shot Tupac.

I remember that >< And I shot you, haha.

How bout top 5. (I'm lazy)
5)Rakim
4)Sugarhill Gang (it's the hip hop...it's confusing)
3)Run DMC
2)Biggie
1)Tupac

And it's so cute how you guys have 50 and Chingy and Em in there. They are sh!t compared to the people in my list. old school > new school. Fabulous?! Man you guys must be around 11...with out Rakim and Sugarhill you would have no Em or Fabulous. They didn't make history (well maybe Em but it's different.). Haha you youngins' (youngin- someone who doesn't know about the game) =)

[patrick004]

PENtheINSTRUMENT, we have to realize these people are more into commerical rap since it's more accessible and more appealing, than into straight hip hop.

Most of these people probably like the music that they can dance to and not the intellectual stuff. They don't really care about the word play, similes, metaphors, alliteration, punchlines, storytelling, etc. and this is most likely the reason why metal/rock fans hate rap/hip hop.

Anyways, my top 10 MCs/groups in random order.

1. Immortal Technique
2. Sage Francis
3. Big Pun
4. Eminem
5. Sticky Fingaz
6. The Fugees
7. Vishiss
8. Talib Kweli
9. Mountain Brothers
10. Chino XL (still "new" to have though)

It's really hard for me to pick a top 10, there's too many good ones out there. There's also a lot of rappers I'm trying to find out about.

[h22fanatik]

PENtheINSTRUMENT, we have to realize these people are more into commerical rap since it's more accessible and more appealling, than into straight hip hop.

Most of these people probably like the music that they can dance to and not the intellectual stuff. They don't really care about the word play, similes, metaphors, alliteration, punchlines, storytelling, etc. and this is most likely the reason why metal/rock fans hate rap/hip hop.

Anyways, my top 10 MCs/groups in random order.

1. Immortal Technique
2. Sage Francis
3. Big Pun
4. Eminem
5. Sticky Fingaz
6. The Fugees
7. Vishiss
8. Talib Kweli
9. Mountain Brothers
10. Chino XL (still "new" to have though)

It's really hard for me to pick a top 10, there's too many good ones out there. There's also a lot of rappers I'm trying to find out about.

thank you! very well said and i couldn't agree with u more.

[WTFwasIthinking]

PENtheINSTRUMENT, we have to realize these people are more into commerical rap since it's more accessible and more appealing, than into straight hip hop.

Most of these people probably like the music that they can dance to and not the intellectual stuff. They don't really care about the word play, similes, metaphors, alliteration, punchlines, storytelling, etc. and this is most likely the reason why metal/rock fans hate rap/hip hop.

Anyways, my top 10 MCs/groups in random order.

1. Immortal Technique
2. Sage Francis
3. Big Pun
4. Eminem
5. Sticky Fingaz
6. The Fugees
7. Vishiss
8. Talib Kweli
9. Mountain Brothers
10. Chino XL (still "new" to have though)

It's really hard for me to pick a top 10, there's too many good ones out there. There's also a lot of rappers I'm trying to find out about.

dass what i'm talkin' about!!! FINALLY, a hip hopper

Immortal Technique is sick... I don't like Sage Francis's delivery cuz it's that acid rap sh*t but what he says is incredible... he's an amazing poet - i hear he wins tons of poetry contests... his words are deep as f**k...

Pun's CRAZY.... Eminem as well

I dun' like Sticky Fingaz at all... the Fugees were great but ehhh...

Kweli's the man... never even heard of the Mountain Brothers though I do hear that Red and Meth call themselves that sometimes cuz they always so high... LMAO

I think Chino XL's overrated though but yeah, more respect towards your list...


AND AS I DID SAY, THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT THE TOP 10 BEST RAPPERS.... NOT THEIR FAVORITE OR WHAT THEY LIKE LISTENIN' TO... I don't like listenin' to Sage Francis but I know he's an incredible MC

I remember that >< And I shot you, haha.

How bout top 5. (I'm lazy)
5)Rakim
4)Sugarhill Gang (it's the hip hop...it's confusing)
3)Run DMC
2)Biggie
1)Tupac

And it's so cute how you guys have 50 and Chingy and Em in there. They are sh!t compared to the people in my list. old school > new school. Fabulous?! Man you guys must be around 11...with out Rakim and Sugarhill you would have no Em or Fabulous. They didn't make history (well maybe Em but it's different.). Haha you youngins' (youngin- someone who doesn't know about the game) =)

oh god, you have no idea what you're talkin' about.... Rakim's the only one that deserves to be on that list.... you say Em's doesn't deserve to be in there... ummm, aright, TIMEOUT... he's about to pass Pac as the alltime album seller in the history of hip hop... he has the record for most records sold in the first week by a SOLO ARTIST.... he's got an album that almost went diamond....

that's just the mainstream success part of it.... lyrically, he's a mastermind... RAKIM is not touchin' him lyrically.... Rakim is sick but he's not Em.... he doesn't have the syllable rhyming down as well as Em, didn't do the punchlines as nice as Em, didn't even have the delivery down like Em does now... c'mon man, and RUN DMC?!?!?!? they're not even great rappers... they're great MC's YES because MC stands for "move the crowd"/"microphone controller" BUT you need the total package to be an MC... lyrically, none of 'em were that nice.... you know how basic their rhyme structure is? c'mon man, you don't even know what you talkin' about and actin' like you all ahead of someone.... even Fab would rip everyone on ya list honestly.... you haven't heard Fab spit on the real level.... listen to Breathe - his newest song that's just ridiciulous.... listen to his mixtape sh*t and you'll be amazed... you're probably stuck in the mainstream world where he releases the club/songs for girls/my car is better than your's type ish...... but you wrong 'bout him... at the top of his game, he's one of the elite...... wordplay, punchlines are CRAZY.... his syllable rhyming one of the best

as I said, Rakim's the ONLY one that deserves to be in any list.... Kool G Rap (old school if you wanna go that way) will murder everyone on that list EXCEPT Rakim.... I hope you know who that is.... you do right?

wrong. it's the best rappers IN UR OPINION! get it straight...everyone thinks differently and have different tastes. u can't convince someone to think the same way as u. be a lil open minded and have more respect for other pplz opinion, not just urs.

and as for that, I am open minded.... VERY, but if someone is COMPLETELY WRONG then I'ma correct them... I've proven why also the lists are completely off.... best rappers in your opinion is a very broad statement BUT there's technical stuff about MCing (AS I SAID BEFORE) and most of the guys named don't have any of 'em down....

It would be like someone naming the top 10 best cars and these people are naming one's that they like and then some car expert comes in and tell's them why those cars either suck or are worse than others.... most of the guys listed on mosts people's list suck, PERIOD

[sh0rt13]

- fabolous
- kanye west
- diddy
- t.i
- twista
- jay-z
- chingy
- lil flip
- murphy lee
- j kwon

[black_cloud10]

1. eminem
2. ludacris
3. scarface
4. dre
5. snoop
6. biggie
7. swisha house
7 1/2. mike watts
8. d12
9. 2pac
10. outkast

this list is in order of rememberance not of best to worst.

[black_cloud10]

I remember that >< And I shot you, haha.

How bout top 5. (I'm lazy)
5)Rakim
4)Sugarhill Gang (it's the hip hop...it's confusing)
3)Run DMC
2)Biggie
1)Tupac

And it's so cute how you guys have 50 and Chingy and Em in there. They are sh!t compared to the people in my list. old school > new school. Fabulous?! Man you guys must be around 11...with out Rakim and Sugarhill you would have no Em or Fabulous. They didn't make history (well maybe Em but it's different.). Haha you youngins' (youngin- someone who doesn't know about the game) =)

ahh Rakim. completly forgot about him... man reading all these ppl'z list makes me want to go buy some albumz.

[lilambi1612]

1.2pac
2.Biggie
3.Snoop Dogg
4.ICE CUBE
5.Nelly
6.Nas
7.Ja Rule
8.Mc Lyte
9.eminem
10.Ludacris

Bye the way rock sucks fo reel All about rap metal sux too

[BeyondElite]

I hate raps. They're undecent people. So...sorry!

[whhaat]

1. Lloyd Banks
2. Kanye West
3. 50 Cent
4. Nelly
5. Eminem
6. Murphy Lee
7. 2pac
8. J-Kwon
9. Young Buck
10. Lil Wayne

[WTFwasIthinking]

these kinda rap fans 'er the one's that piss me off....

[h22fanatik]

and as for that, I am open minded.... VERY, but if someone is COMPLETELY WRONG then I'ma correct them... I've proven why also the lists are completely off.... best rappers in your opinion is a very broad statement BUT there's technical stuff about MCing (AS I SAID BEFORE) and most of the guys named don't have any of 'em down....

It would be like someone naming the top 10 best cars and these people are naming one's that they like and then some car expert comes in and tell's them why those cars either suck or are worse than others.... most of the guys listed on mosts people's list suck, PERIOD

well u sure don't sound like ur open minded. u said if we were to talk about the 10 best cars, an expert would tell us what cars are the best. an expert meaning a reputable mechanic or a body man right? but who r u to say who are the best rappers? r u a reputable MC or producer? no ur not, ur just like anyone of us. so before u criticize other pplz tastes, u need to calm down and check urself. i really dont mean to sound like a bitch, but i can't stand ppl who arent open minded.

[WTFwasIthinking]

well u sure don't sound like ur open minded. u said if we were to talk about the 10 best cars, an expert would tell us what cars are the best. an expert meaning a reputable mechanic or a body man right? but who r u to say who are the best rappers? r u a reputable MC or producer? no ur not, ur just like anyone of us. so before u criticize other pplz tastes, u need to calm down and check urself. i really dont mean to sound like a bitch, but i can't stand ppl who arent open minded.

I study hip hop... and lyricism. I'm an established MC from Jerz dass gotten props from Record Labels execs, specifically Rawkus Records (where Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Kool G Rap, Skillz, and more were signed to)...

I'm workin' on a demo right now and have had people from Harlem, Newark, Amboy, New York, and other places wantin' ta work with me including a guy named Krumbz that has a buzz all around Jerz and New York....

and umm..... who am I ta criticize peoples' tastes? someone who knows a lot more about hip hop and MCing than anyone at this board..... so I have every right to tell people when they're wrong in this department

oh yeah, and I met Memphis Bleek (Under the ROC - Jay-Z's label) last summer in Brunswick 'n told 'em I'm workin' on gettin' signed... I got his personal office number 'n he told me to call 'em when I finish muh demo 'n he'll sit 'n peep it....

ummm... I feel like that's enough...

PayCe ~1~

[h22fanatik]

I study hip hop... and lyricism. I'm an established MC from Jerz dass gotten props from Record Labels execs, specifically Rawkus Records (where Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Kool G Rap, Skillz, and more were signed to)...

I'm workin' on a demo right now and have had people from Harlem, Newark, Amboy, New York, and other places wantin' ta work with me including a guy named Krumbz that has a buzz all around Jerz and New York....

and umm..... who am I ta criticize peoples' tastes? someone who knows a lot more about hip hop and MCing than anyone at this board..... so I have every right to tell people when they're wrong in this department

oh yeah, and I met Memphis Bleek (Under the ROC - Jay-Z's label) last summer in Brunswick 'n told 'em I'm workin' on gettin' signed... I got his personal office number 'n he told me to call 'em when I finish muh demo 'n he'll sit 'n peep it....

ummm... I feel like that's enough...

PayCe ~1~

haha that's great...but ppl are not gonna call u an ESTABLISHED MC until ur f*ckin famous, so until then...u need to step down and stop criticizing other pplz opinions...and that's great that ur soo cocky to say that ur the most knowledgeable person on this board about hip hop...i dont mean to burst ur bubble, but i dont think anyone here gives a sh*t...we like our top ten rappers...

[WTFwasIthinking]

haha that's great...but ppl are not gonna call u an ESTABLISHED MC until ur f*ckin famous, so until then...u need to step down and stop criticizing other pplz opinions...and that's great that ur soo cocky to say that ur the most knowledgeable person on this board about hip hop...i dont mean to burst ur bubble, but i dont think anyone here gives a sh*t...we like our top ten rappers...

once again, another mainstream listeners view.... there's over 20 underground MC's that are skilled enough to annihilate 80% of the mainstream industry... they're better battle rappers, better deliveries, better lyrically, better concepts, more conscious, and more....

Vakill, Juice, Sage Francis, Eyedea, Crooked I, JR Writer, Copywrite, Cage, Esoteric, Immortal Technique, Illogic, Benefit, and dozens more.....

but they're not famous.... doesn't mean they're not established..... they're all still basically makin' doctor money... did you know that people like that perform at shows for 30-40 minute sets and can make 5 grand? say a family doctor makes 200 G's a year... well that's 1/40 of what a doctor makes in a year in 30-40 minutes... c'mon....

and stop criticizing other people's opinions? first of all, I can criticize whatever I want however I want.... and I'm not being cocky, it's truth - I study hip hop... just like you probably know a lot more about other aspects of life than me, I know more about hip hop than (PROBABLY) everyone at this board considering I study it and live it.... and you asked what makes me so qualified and I told you... I wasn't throwin' it around all cocky like I'm the man... first I brought knowledgable arguments and facts to the table against ya'll opinions. I have every right to do that.... I didn't bring it up until you asked what makes me so qualified... I told'chu... and you don't need to give a sh*t.... whether or not you give a sh*t does not make such an enormous impact on my life..... I'm good whether you like me, hate me, wanna kill me, or say I'ma complete idiot... does not make a difference

as I said, I'm bringin' facts... ya'll bringin' opinions... keep runnin' with that... you don't get far in arguments doin' that but iss all good...

PayCe ~1~

[patrick004]

Cool, you know Krumbz, I think he's tight. What's your name and artist name?

He hangs around the D12world.com boards and allowed people to download his album. He also put some unreleased stuff on his soundclick page.

His song Abeecee'z is an amazing song.

BTW, trying to convert these people to actual hip hop would be a tough feat. I have a friend who I always, ALWAYS try to introduce him to new music but most of the time, he's say it sucks. I can't believe he loves the Big Tymers...over The Roots.

You don't know the Mountain Brothers(www.mountainbrothers.com). Well, they're a trio from Philly and they're all Chinese. The most famous member is Chops(www.chopshiphop.com), who has been acknowledged by people like Kanye West, DJ Premier, and RZA for his talent of producing. Also, he's one of the rare people who can produce and rip tracks at the same time.

[WTFwasIthinking]

Cool, you know Krumbz, I think he's tight. What's your name and artist name?

He hangs around the D12world.com boards and allowed people to download his album. He also put some unreleased stuff on his soundclick page.

His song Abeecee'z is an amazing song.

BTW, trying to convert these people to actual hip hop would be a tough feat. I have a friend who I always, ALWAYS try to introduce him to new music but most of the time, he's say it sucks. I can't believe he loves the Big Tymers...over The Roots.

Yeah, I know 'em through online but he says I'm sick....

He said as soon as he's done with his second album we gon' hit the studio up together 'n see wassup....

Du's pretty nice... quote on quote he said: "you ill as f*ck"...

pretty much, I know I'm sick... I'ma be signed within 2 years almost guaranteed...

watch for me... And

aright? PayCe ~1~

[patrick004]

Haha, I'll look out for you.

If you didn't notice, I added something my last post about the Mountain Brothers, if you're interested.

And you still didn't answer my Q. What's your name and artist name?

[WTFwasIthinking]

Andrew is the name... And is the artist name.....

muh boys used ta just call me And instead of Andrew and iss simple, basic, and original so I'm stickin' wit it...

iss And aka the Rhetoric

Krumbz 'n ah are both from Jerz.... I definitely wanna collab wit du'... he's type nice

just peeped the Mountain Brothers... they aight... nuttin' extraordinary but better than any asian du's I heard spit besides me.... they pretty decent though... they can actually make songs unlike some other people (*cough cough Jin cough cough*) ....

nah, ah actually gotta connect to Jin also though cuz ah know someone who knows these girls that used to mess wit 'em before he got big... they still talk to 'em and chill wit 'em so he might get a demo to take it somewhere if he doesn't hate and want a better asian MC gettin' spotlight... people have told me he's childish as f*ck so who knows....

but anyway, g'look for the link 'n sh*t... as I said, they aight

[bballchick1]

here's mine:

1. kanye west
2. 2pac
3. jay-z
4. biggie
5. 50 cent
6. snoop dogg
7. loon
8. dr. dre
9. eminem
10. nas

yup that's it

[bigpoppaproppy]

1. 2pac
2. dmx
3. eminem
4. Snoop/Dre
5. Twista
6. bone thugs
7. kanye
8. p. diddy
9. biggie
10. jay-z