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post Jul 14 2004, 02:38 PM
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give all us nonchristians reasons to convert. thought i highly doubt that you could persuade ANY of us. oh and nonchristians please arguee back and make this all interesting.
 
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post Jul 14 2004, 03:55 PM
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*sigh* Not another religion thread..

Someone's already tried to convert me.. I'd rather not deal with religion pinch.gif
 
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the reason i haet christianty is because of all it's reason's why i shoudl convert.
 
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post Jul 14 2004, 05:08 PM
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hummm b/c Jesus is amazing, provides for u, loves u, saved u...and u will go to Heaven
 
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hummm b/c Jesus is amazing, provides for u, loves u, saved u...and u will go to Heaven

Reading that.. and now reading the following..
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the reason i haet christianty is because of all it's reason's why i shoudl convert.

I think I shall agree with the latter..
 
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Reason why I shouldn't convert:

I get to keep my free will, no limits, no constraints--I can think for myself. I mean the real thing, not something like: I'm "created" with 'free will', but then I have to follow the will of God anyway.

So yeah, that's reason enough for me.
 
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post Jul 15 2004, 09:12 AM
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mellow.gif People have attempted to convert me. I suggest not to try to convert a well read person. I can question to no end!


I suppose I hate religon, in general, because their are too many guidelines. Do it this way or it's wrong. Read this, dress like this, act like this. That's too much for me. If I want to pray or worship my God then I will. I don't need people telling me how to.
 
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QUOTE(HiddenFaerie @ Jul 15 2004, 9:12 AM)
mellow.gif People have attempted to convert me. I suggest not to try to convert a well read person. I can question to no end!


I suppose I hate religon, in general, because their are too many guidelines. Do it this way or it's wrong. Read this, dress like this, act like this. That's too much for me. If I want to pray or worship my God then I will. I don't need people telling me how to.

dress like what?
 
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hummm b/c Jesus is amazing, provides for u, loves u, saved u...and u will go to Heaven


1. jesus is amazing. have you met him? do you know him? do you know anything besides that book of historical fiction?

2. provides for u last time i check, my parents did that. if they were to lose thier jobs, nooo, jesus isn't turning up with food. that would be welfare, the government, or meals on wheels.

3. loves u so does michael jackson (if you're a little boy). enough said.

4. saved u when? not now, not before. jesus never helped anyone after he died. assuming that what the book of historical fiction says he did was based in some fact. if it wasn't, then he never helped anyone. this is assuming he exists, or course, without using the book of historical fiction as a refrence.

5. and u will go to Heaven why? why will i go to heaven? just because i'm christian? so all non christians burn, no matter how good they are, but only christians can get past the pearlies????? what kind of religion is that?
 
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post Jul 15 2004, 12:40 PM
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uhm..its a popular misconception that christianity is restraining. . BUT...its really the only thing that sets yu free....jesus is amazing & wonderful and theres no feeling that can ever take the place of peace in god... when you have god in yur heart you will be saved and go to heaven . . others will be doomed to an eternity in helL ..so where do want to be when you die heaven or hell? i love going to church and the friends i have in chuch are the closest one i have in the world..its bcuz yu just have a special connestion with them....people should really convert bcuz when you think about what god has done for you, he died and suffered for your sins so that you will not go to hell, all you have to do is accept him and yu will get the gift of eternal life..

John 3:16
for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life..


uhm you can im me if yu need to talk more...i can pray for anyone happy.gif
 
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post Jul 15 2004, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2004, 12:31 PM)
1. jesus is amazing. have you met him? do you know him? do you know anything besides that book of historical fiction?

2. provides for u last time i check, my parents did that. if they were to lose thier jobs, nooo, jesus isn't turning up with food. that would be welfare, the government, or meals on wheels.

3. loves u so does michael jackson (if you're a little boy). enough said.

4. saved u when? not now, not before. jesus never helped anyone after he died. assuming that what the book of historical fiction says he did was based in some fact. if it wasn't, then he never helped anyone. this is assuming he exists, or course, without using the book of historical fiction as a refrence.

5. and u will go to Heaven why? why will i go to heaven? just because i'm christian? so all non christians burn, no matter how good they are, but only christians can get past the pearlies????? what kind of religion is that?

1 jesus is amazing and yes i kno him one on one...
2 jesus provides for everything....you cant depend on your parent bcuz god controls everything and he can take them away anyday..
3 if your not a christian you wouldnt know the real love of jesus christ and its really offensive that yur comparing gods love to micheal jacksons
4 he saved me when he died for me...he had to die for our sins so that we will not be condemned in hell...he helped a lot of people they`re called * miracles *
 
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QUOTE(bebebasa89 @ Jul 15 2004, 12:47 PM)
1 jesus is amazing and yes i kno him one on one...

He's omnipotent right? Can I ask you questions and if you don't know can you ask Him and tell me the answer?

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2 jesus provides for everything....you cant depend on your parent bcuz god controls everything and he can take them away anyday..


Sure He does.... Just like He provdies for all those hungry and sick families in other third world countries.

I don't know about you, but I depend on my parents for guidance and support. They may not be all powerful like God, but they are more real and tangible than He. Is your relationship with your parents okay? I mean, I love my parents, and they love me... so I can depend on them.

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3 if your not a christian you wouldnt know the real love of jesus christ and its really offensive that yur comparing gods love to micheal jacksons


Well........ since we're heathens, what do you expect? Even though, I will say that it was very impolite of him/her to liken the two.

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4 he saved me when he died for me...he had to die for our sins so that we will not be condemned in hell...he helped a lot of people they`re called * miracles


What sins that I have commited that will warrant Hell? Hmm, I lied a couple of times to my parents about going to my friend's house instead of going to the library. Hmmm.. what else? I flicked off this one guy who cut me off in traffic and I cursed out this person who almost hit me because she ran the stop sign.

Hmm.. oh boy, I'll go to Hell because I did trivial things... Okay, sure, why not.
 
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post Jul 15 2004, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 15 2004, 12:58 PM)
What sins that I have commited that will warrant Hell? Hmm, I lied a couple of times to my parents about going to my friend's house instead of going to the library. Hmmm.. what else? I flicked off this one guy who cut me off in traffic and I cursed out this person who almost hit me because she ran the stop sign.

Hmm.. oh boy, I'll go to Hell because I did trivial things... Okay, sure, why not.

its not just even what yu do....just thinkin about doing a sin is just as good as doing it..and yu will go to hell you cant help that bcuz yu are human...and adam and eve made a huge mistake so everyone is a sinner...the only way to get out of it is to accept god..
 
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QUOTE(bebebasa89 @ Jul 15 2004, 1:04 PM)
its not just even what yu do....just thinkin about doing a sin is just as good as doing it..and yu will go to hell you cant help that bcuz yu are human...and adam and eve made a huge mistake so everyone is a sinner...the only way to get out of it is to accept god..

No thank you.

If Someone is so petty as to not forgive me for doing something trivial, and making me do something just to be forgiven, there's no point in being friends with Him/Her.
 
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post Jul 15 2004, 01:35 PM
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uhm..its a popular misconception that christianity is restraining. . BUT...its really the only thing that sets yu free....jesus is amazing & wonderful and theres no feeling that can ever take the place of peace in god... when you have god in yur heart you will be saved and go to heaven . . others will be doomed to an eternity in helL ..so where do want to be when you die heaven or hell? i love going to church and the friends i have in chuch are the closest one i have in the world..its bcuz yu just have a special connestion with them....people should really convert bcuz when you think about what god has done for you, he died and suffered for your sins so that you will not go to hell, all you have to do is accept him and yu will get the gift of eternal life..

John 3:16
for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life..


uhm you can im me if yu need to talk more...i can pray for anyone 


oh boy. lucky me.

1.uhm..its a popular misconception that christianity is restraining. popular misconception? might i add that christianity is the one that is telling me that my gods are fake? and that it doesn't allow gay priests? and other stuff? tolerant my a--.

2. . BUT...its really the only thing that sets yu free sets me free? if i convert? haha. nice one. sets me free. let's see... am i not free now? with my own gods?

3. jesus is amazing & wonderful and theres no feeling that can ever take the place of peace in god hmm.. amazing and wonderful. do you see dead people, by any chance? peace in god. one noun in another? i'll pretend you said faith in god. and how can anything take the place of it. it never existed to me. not this 'god the father' god.

4.when you have god in yur heart you will be saved and go to heaven even if it's one of the 'fake gods'? what about serial killers? murderers? 'sinners?' will they still go to heaven if they have 'god in thier heart'?

5.others will be doomed to an eternity in helL what a nice, tolerant religion. let me tell you something. i would rather spend an enterity in hell than an eternity in heaven with a bigshot that can cure all the suffering in the world but chooses not to. is not that what you do in heaven? 'enjoy the prescence of god'?

6. so where do want to be when you die heaven or hell? see above. and one other thing, how come i have to belive in god to go to heaven? isn't it enough to be good in your heart? to have done good things?

7. i love going to church and the friends i have in chuch are the closest one i have in the world my bad. i though church was about worshiping god, not a social event. but is that a reason i should convert? i think not.

8.its bcuz yu just have a special connestion with them so really. that's nice. a special connection. why, might i ask, is this limited to friends at church. and see above also. that's not a reason to convert.

9.....people should really convert bcuz when you think about what god has done for you 'god' has done nothing for the childern dying in africa form AIDS. 'god' has done nothing to avert war. 'god' has done nothing to create a better world. 'god' has done nothing for me. no, 'sacraficing' his son is not doing something for me. i'm going to burn anyways, according to you.

10.he died and suffered for your sins so that you will not go to hell he did? when did he do that? when he got crucified and went to heaven? that's suffering, alright. oh boy, an eternity as the almighty. that's really suffering. why can't i just go to heaven or hell because of me having been good or bad? that's what should matter, not if you belive in 'god'.

11.all you have to do is accept him and yu will get the gift of eternal life.. the gift of eternal life. you mean an eternity in heaven, with 'god' and an eternity with all the murderers who accepted him?

12.John 3:16
for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son so that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life..
wait... so you say... that all that belive in 'god' will live forever? where are thos immortal christians? all i see are some that are immoral.

13.uhm you can im me if yu need to talk more...i can pray for anyone save your prayers. this isn't really a reason i should convert, so i won't debase it.

14. please use english, like you and because instead of yu and bcaz. because i think ending my point by point breakdown of your argument with 13 isn't that good.

oh, do i love this.
 
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post Jul 15 2004, 01:37 PM
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"Why should nonchristians convert?"

I think that they could convert if they wanted to. There's really no real reason why they should.
 
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oh, and if being born is a sin, then why would i want to join this religion?
 
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lol, have fun (sub-topic note)
Non-Christians convert because they want a feeling of exception;it's human nature. The religion teaches morality, exception, and life after death. Seems appealing to all so that's one reason. Too lazy to write the rest. lol laugh.gif
 
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QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Jul 15 2004, 2:01 PM)
lol, have fun (sub-topic note)
Non-Christians convert because they want a feeling of exception;it's human nature. The religion teaches morality, exception, and life after death. Seems appealing to all so that's one reason. Too lazy to write the rest. lol  laugh.gif

1) family and friends give me the feeling of acception.

2) my culture teaches morality, and I'm sure other cultures can also.

3) life is self-discovery, death is inevitable.

A lot of people don't need religion for those things, but it appeals to people who needs answers for every problem, I guess.

I don't need answers, I ask when what I believe in is threatened, I just want to live my life the way I want to. happy.gif
 
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 15 2004, 12:05 PM)
1) family and friends give me the feeling of acception.

2) my culture teaches morality, and I'm sure other cultures can also.

3) life is self-discovery, death is inevitable.

A lot of people don't need religion for those things, but it appeals to people who needs answers for every problem, I guess.

I don't need answers, I ask when what I believe in is threatened, I just want to live my life the way I want to. happy.gif

lol, as do I biggrin.gif
 
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i tried. . .and atleast i can say that. . but i will pray for yu neways
 
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QUOTE(bebebasa89 @ Jul 15 2004, 2:16 PM)
i tried. . .and atleast i can say that. . but i will pray for yu neways

uh, thanks I guess.
 
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lol, have fun (sub-topic note)
Non-Christians convert because they want a feeling of exception;it's human nature. The religion teaches morality, exception, and life after death. Seems appealing to all so that's one reason. Too lazy to write the rest. lol 


you know that nonchristians can have other religions. they do that very well without being like christianity.
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2004, 12:33 PM)
you know that nonchristians can have other religions.  they do that very well without being like christianity.

I know that, I was just stating what Christianity teaches. And yes other religions teach the same thing too but I'm too lazy to list more facts.
 
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QUOTE(redsoxbaby87 @ Jul 14 2004, 2:38 PM)
give all us nonchristians reasons to convert. thought i highly doubt that you could persuade ANY of us. oh and nonchristians please arguee back and make this all interesting.

it seems to me that the only reason why this thread was made is to make us christians look stupid and make us try to defend ourselves. you said yourself that you doubt anybody would want to convert so then whats the point? its like all you want to do is see us get bashed, contradict ourselves, and just make us look bad in general. and its like youre instigating too. there are multiple reasons why we believe people should be saved, but we are also taught that if you try to share the gospel with somebody and they reject it, we cannot force it upon them. it is your choice whether you want to become a Christian or not. All God wants is to be able to spend all of eternity with mankind in heaven..and im guessing that youre thinking, 'well then why doesnt he just make all of us Christians since hes the supreme being as all of you say?' the reason is because he loves us so much he does not want to force us to believe in him and all that hes done. He loves us so much that he gives us the choice whether to become Christians or not. i dont see the point in this thread because all of the arguments will be exactly the same as every other religion thread. as i said before, we cant force you to become believers..and as for me, i will not waste my time trying to save others and make myself look inferior to non-believers when they have already said that they cannot be persuaded. its pointless..you cant win them all
 

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