Creation or Evolution?, Which do you believe in? Options

[Senorita_Babo]

evolution.

[EmeraldKnight]

What I'm saying is that I'm not going to believe most things that people tell me until I investigate for myself. It states that Reptiles evolved from amphibians, but I would want to know what their proof is.... "they did because we had this evidence." See what I'm saying?

Their proof is fossil evidence that shows the evoluntionary links

[babexdragon]

there is 10 pages of this topic and i dont reallly felt like reading all of it... sorry but i noe there's a book bout this with the same title... its really cool and i wanted to finish reading it before i couldnt but i believe in creation. i think it makes more sense than this "missing link"

[*CEP*]

there is 10 pages of this topic and i dont reallly felt like reading all of it... sorry but i noe there's a book bout this with the same title... its really cool and i wanted to finish reading it before i couldnt but i believe in creation. i think it makes more sense than this "missing link"

So some faceless, formless being creating everyone out of nothing makes more sense than us evolving from other animals?
Even when there are proof that evolution is true?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[*the_overachiever*]

So some faceless, formless being creating everyone out of nothing makes more sense than us evolving from other animals?
Even when there are proof that evolution is true?

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

dude, i thought you were Catholic.
way to be, Jose. way to be.

[oOyunieOo]

Their proof is fossil evidence that shows the evoluntionary links

If I'm not mistaken, they have not found any true Misin glinks... thus their name, missng links.

So some faceless, formless being creating everyone out of nothing makes more sense than us evolving from other animals?
Even when there are proof that evolution is true?

It certainly seems better than our complex billion-celled-bodies evolving from one cell with mutations---- and the chances of the mutations being good is highly, as in scientists haven't succeeded in the lab, unlikely. Their aren't missing links, so it makes more sense to me that Someone created us as we are. You also can't deny that there is some force out there... think about it, if we evolved from animals, why should we even have any morals? Animals have no morals, no decency-- all they care about is how are they going to eat and survive, and apparently we are no better? By saying we evolved from animals lowers us to a standard that is not right. Someone placed morality in us from the very beginning.

[Spirited Away]

dude, i thought you were Catholic.
way to be, Jose. way to be.

I've never seen him write that he was Catholic... From the 50 page "god" debate, I thought he's agnostic.

[rnrn897]

i think both are true... or wait... maybe creation altered -- gr.
i dunno ><

[x rOck mai sOcks...]

dO you think that we were created or that we have evolved from apes...as so many scientists claim?

I think we were created by God. I`m a strong believer in christianity and in the bible its states that we were. So i have faith in that.

But scientists have challenged the bible...they say we evolved from apes. They have dug up old fossils of "cavemen" , compared them to apes and then made this claim. I found 2 flaws in this.

*1*
Bones do erode after time, especially when their in dirt. So the form of the original bone is not always the same as the ones we find.

*2*
If we evolved froom apes, why are apes still here? Doesn`t evolved imply "To undergo gradual change" meaning that once it changed...there would be no apes left.

The flaws i found may be wrong, but thats why i posted this. I strongly believe we were created...what do you think?

[DavidxN]

Well i think both are possible but i believe the evolution more.i think that we evolved from apes and some weren't able to evolve because of their environment and surroundings, so that caused them to stay in one form for who knows how many years. I don't know about the bones though, maybe they did erode but the scientists could tell taht they were similar enough.

[*CEP*]

Meh.
They didn't really find bone, per se. They found rocks.
You see, when something gets burried, especially near some body of water, the cavities the bones leave off will be filled with silt or w.e and will eventually be a rock.
Something like that. It's called fossilization.

And my theory on how apes are still here, is that they from different families than what Austrolophiticus came from. See, not all apes are the same. So, it's not all that impossible that we can evolve from a different family.

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- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[oOyunieOo]

The flaws i found may be wrong, but thats why i posted this. I strongly believe we were created...what do you think?

Yeah, there are a few things... they say we didn't "directly" eveole from apes... which is , according them, why they are still here. But I belive that we were in fact created by God.

[sikdragon]

If we evolved from the same ancestor as the apes, then why are there no species similar to humans? Im not talking anatomically I am talking of behavior. Humans are the only animals to use laws other than surival. Art and technological advances are only being made by one species, Humans.

Human civilization can only begin after a food source had been established.
The four elements of civilization are:
technology
division of labor
political organization
commerce and trade

Other animals after having a food source established continue to live the same way. Bees are living the way they have lived since their creation. They clearly have a steady food source. Bees are just one of thousands upon thousands of examples.

When looking the Bible, the attempt to artificially split truth into "religious" and "scientific" often does so in violation of the basic laws of logic, where "A" cannot be non-"A". Jesus either rose bodily from the dead, or He did not. Bloodshed was either in the world before Adam, or it was not. Christ does not enter the stage of human history in a ghostly, existential vacuum, but in a carefully laid out framework of history, part of a long line of descent from Adam. For Christianity to be credible, the Bible must be true where it does touch on what Schaeffer calls matters pertaining to "history and the cosmos". Jesus said that if His hearers did not believe when He told them of earthly things, how could they believe when He told them of heavenly things?


I believe in creation. I do not believe in theistic evolution, the belief that God started the evolutionary process. In Genesis it describes a completed creation not the beginning of a gradual development. In Genesis, God told Moses to write of human days(consisting of morning and evening), not thousands of years.

I have a question. If the world is billions of years old, Are there billions of years worth of bones?

[thesecretmodel]

Um, it's too early for me to really launch into a debate about this. But I believe in evolution over creation.

[sikdragon]

too early? I read that whole thing. You should too, if you are going to post.

[C.Lime.Jello.]

I thought authors and writers were one and the same.

The first staement was wrong.
It's 'God is the writer the person is the author'.
It's because God brainwashed someone into writing his story....
Don't ask... -.-u

But anywhoo, I believe in both.
^_^u Yes, I know that's stupid.
But I believe a higher force created us and left us to fend for ourselves.
Does that even make sense?

[Spirited Away]

But I believe a higher force created us and left us to fend for ourselves.
Does that even make sense?

Sure, it's called Deism.

[sikdragon]

oh come on, don't i get a rebuttle against my statement?

[Spirited Away]

Which statement? About the apes?

I'm not too savvy with science... but if that's the one, I'll try to say something... in hopes that I don't embarrass myself.

I have a question. If the world is billions of years old, Are there billions of years worth of bones?

Have you taken geology? This would partly explain why... remember that the Earth's crust movesssssssssssss.

[sikdragon]

well there would have to be billions of years of remains regardless of position.


It's ok science savvy is not usually a trait to brag about.

[Spirited Away]

well there would have to be billions of years of remains regardless of position.

What do you mean? The Earth's crusts actually collides with each other and one side/both sides dips downward towards lava.... you know what happens when things touches lava don't you? Wait, how deep can we dig these days?

It's ok science savvy is not usually a trait to brag about.

People who makes the grades and understands it make money, save lives, improve society, which is more than I can say for the rest us.

[sikdragon]

there ya go. Thats the kind of malliciously fallacious attack i was looking for. j/k. Even with some of the fossils melting and forming igneous rocks, there would still be alot more bones than there are found.

People who makes the grades and understands it make money, save lives, improve society, which is more than I can say for the rest us.

I services society by rocking.

You don't see those people on the cover of popular magazines is all im saying. I wasn't implying scientists, doctors, and people in other fields of science aren't valued members of society.

[Spirited Away]

there ya go. Thats the kind of malliciously fallacious attack i was looking for. j/k. Even with some of the fossils melting and forming igneous rocks, there would still be alot more bones than there are found.

Bones? How about organisims?

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With improvements to our technology (thank yous to engineers and science savvy people), we're discovering more and more about the earth and its origins. Aren't you happy? I mean this can be a step to prove/disprove our beliefs! I'm excited! Okay, not that excited, but just interested.

I services society by rocking.

<< huh?

You don't see those people on the cover of popular magazines is all im saying. I wasn't implying scientists, doctors, and people in other fields of science aren't valued members of society.

This all depends on what magazines you subscribe to. I enjoy Hollywood gossip as much as the next person, but I know their worth, and so do many others. There's Wired Magazine, Science Magazine, Time, Popular Science, and these happen to mention names and pictures of scientists and engineers, etc. I happen to be a subscriber to a couple of those magazines and I also subscribe to Us, and Shape as well, but that doesn't mean I value scientists more than Gwen Paltrow as they each contribute to society in different ways.

[sikdragon]

POPULAR<KEYWORD..geez i hate saying that.

anyways. knowledge is the enemy of faith, most people gain the knowledge good enough to disprove what they have faith in and do not wish to dig deeper taking what they know out of context.

[Spirited Away]

POPULAR<KEYWORD..geez i hate saying that.

Has anyone tried to discredit their articles?

anyways. knowledge is the enemy of faith, most people gain the knowledge good enough to disprove what they have faith in and do not wish to dig deeper taking what they know out of context.

Last I checked, knowledge is a life-long learning experience. Even if I happen to not believe something today doesn't mean that science, or faith, won't change my mind later because knowledge is never set in stone.

Theories of centuries past have been improved with knowledge of new technology and science.

While faith is loyally constant, new knowledge are found everday and can be improved.