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should they cancel writing SAT test?
angel-roh
post May 28 2004, 08:09 PM
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heh i heard that they gona put up writing SAT test next year... i heard it from this girl...xxkrnqt... um something like that lols newais do u think they shud allow it???? i mean i dont like it. it's soo not fair! now it's more stressing!!!!! ackkk-_- im 10th grade and i dont want their to be another section! aiish!!!! wait is it only SAT 1? or all SATs?!?!?! man.... cus if i fail SAT 1... i prolly have to take it next year again...but still!!! ackk-_-
 
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post Jun 3 2004, 09:30 AM
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the SAT Writing is easy. I'm not even in my school's Honors English track and I got an 800. They curve it a lot.
 
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post Jun 3 2004, 09:36 AM
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no they shouldn't cancel anything in the SATs because i have a shitty GPA but great test scores
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 02:35 AM
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Wow.. this is an old post (second to last tongue.gif )

Ok.. all I'm seeing (at least in the recent posts) is that
a. there's ppl in favor of it because they write well and perform well on the test (Minda don't show off.. _dry.gif )
b. there's ppl that hate it because they dont earn good scores..

I personally just dont like the fact that its scored out of 6 yet its worth 800 points.. so if you miss 1/6, you miss over 100 points...

Anyways.. its absolutely necessary because let's face it.. no matter how strong you are in other areas.. (ie. as science/math/history), you're going to need to be able to communicate with people.. to be able to write

One of the few exceptions would be in athletics.. unless you're interested in playing pro sports, writing is going to be necessary in your future.. and colleges need to be able to know how well you can write; it also depends on your interests and strengths.. writing wont be so important for a math major than it would be for a literature or history major, yet the math major still will need to be able to write
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 01:12 PM
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yeah it then would measure ur skills in writing also
i know its more work but its worth it
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 01:30 PM
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NOOOO i hope they keep it
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 09:36 PM
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The Writing will make it EASIER, not HARDER. I'm very experienced test-taker, and I can say for a fact that they will grade the essay leniently. They do on the PSAT and the SAT II Writing.
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 10:14 PM
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The Writing will make it EASIER, not HARDER. I'm very experienced test-taker, and I can say for a fact that they will grade the essay leniently. They do on the PSAT and the SAT II Writing.

There is no writing on PSAT

ANd.. well, more lenient, perhaps.. but some people just dont write well, and for them, the test will be harder, you cant just say that it'll be easier for everyone Minda.. perhaps in your experience, but not everyone's
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 10:14 PM
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There IS writing on the PSAT... just not an essay.
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 10:39 PM
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There IS writing on the PSAT... just not an essay. 

Oh of course, I thought everyone was just referring to the essay...
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 01:41 PM
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well i wasnt happy when i heard that theres gonna be a writing section on the sats starting 2005 because i think theres going to be much more room to make errors. even though its graded as a whole i would rather have the old test
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 01:46 PM
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well i wasnt happy when i heard that theres gonna be a writing section on the sats starting 2005 because i think theres going to be much more room to make errors. even though its graded as a whole i would rather have the old test 

Make errors? What do you mean? I just hate the fact that its scored out of 6 and if you get a bad scorer.....

The main problem with the old test is that everyone prepares for it so much.. all these prep classes and stuff.. you can't realli prepare so much for the new test so it'll be a better gauge of one's abilities
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 01:54 PM
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well i mean errors as in most likely you would have a higher chance of making a mistake, or as you said, you get a bad scorer and they for some reason dont like or understand the way you write. if this happens then it could seriously bring down your grade

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The main problem with the old test is that everyone prepares for it so much.. all these prep classes and stuff.. you can't realli prepare so much for the new test so it'll be a better gauge of one's abilities


true because its been around for sometime and almost everyone knows exaclty what is going to be on it (well at least the types of questions on the test). i agree it may be a more accurate test about how a person's writing skills are but what about the other sections then? in the math section i think theyre taking out the quantitive comparison but i dont know what theyre putting in. i dont see how theyre going to "improve" the math section after all the sat isnt just all a verbal test
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 01:56 PM
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true because its been around for sometime and almost everyone knows exaclty what is going to be on it (well at least the types of questions on the test). i agree it may be a more accurate test about how a person's writing skills are but what about the other sections then? in the math section i think theyre taking out the quantitive comparison but i dont know what theyre putting in. i dont see how theyre going to "improve" the math section after all the sat isnt just all a verbal test

For math, they're putting in higher level math stuff.. instead of the basic easy crap that's in there now
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 02:01 PM
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oh ok well thats a bit better but in a few years, its just going to be the same again, and everyone will know basically whats on it with the exception of the writing part. a few decades or so ago it was basically impossible to get full score but now many people are because of the sat prep and everything. soon, after the changes are made, the sat prep classes or books or whatever are going to change too. theyre just going to have to keep on changing it
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 02:09 PM
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oh ok well thats a bit better but in a few years, its just going to be the same again, and everyone will know basically whats on it with the exception of the writing part. a few decades or so ago it was basically impossible to get full score but now many people are because of the sat prep and everything. soon, after the changes are made, the sat prep classes or books or whatever are going to change too. theyre just going to have to keep on changing it

Yeah.. they should keep changing it.. times change, so why shouldnt tests?
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 02:14 PM
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true they should change it im not completely against the changes in the sats but i feel more comfortable without the writing because as youve said, if you get unlucky and the person who scores your test doesnt like your essay, then youre basically dead
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 02:17 PM
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true they should change it im not completely against the changes in the sats but i feel more comfortable without the writing because as youve said, if you get unlucky and the person who scores your test doesnt like your essay, then youre basically dead

But supposedly they're grading it easier..

*shrug* I dunno.. we'll have to see once it comes out..
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 02:22 PM
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well thats a relief happy.gif i remember taking it in seventh grade for this program i put down random answers and didnt bother to answer some questions in the verbal part n amazingly i didnt get a 200
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 02:26 PM
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well thats a relief  i remember taking it in seventh grade for this program i put down random answers and didnt bother to answer some questions in the verbal part n amazingly i didnt get a 200

Haha.. perhaps you got lucky tongue.gif
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 02:50 PM
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just hope i get as lucky when it comes to the thing that actually counts
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 04:47 PM
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Remember, on the essay: You want to write like Ernest Hemmingway. Short, brief, and to the point.
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 06:18 PM
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Thanks for the tip Minda! happy.gif

(Unfortunately, conciseness has always defeated me.. pinch.gif )
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 06:49 PM
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Just try not to impress them with being subtle or tactful... they read dozens of essays a day and will only spend two or three minutes on yours. They are going to be too tired to read for meaning. Be blunt.

Now you know why I got an 800 on mine :).
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 06:51 PM
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yeah thanks for the tips ill be sure to engrave them into my brain laugh.gif
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 07:15 PM
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THey should get rid of the SAT 1 period! That test proves absolutely nothing, except for the fact that you can walk in and fill in bubbles correctly.
 

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