condoms, should be distributed at school? Options

[*NatiMarie*]

Ok, I hope this is PG-13 but this isn't really nasty or supposed to be, but the question in the matter is:

Should condoms be distributed at school? Why or why not?

(i.e.: to prevent pregnancies, STDs, etc.)

What do you think?

[ComradeRed]

Its illegal here..


Why should it be legalized?

1) Where is "here"?

2) It should be legalized because it is a victimless crime. The only way to enforce laws against a victimless crime is to violate the privacy of innocent people -- which does more damage in the long-run than the victimless crime itself. No one is harmed, so no one reports the crime. Therefore, the police cannot catch anyone, or even know that crimes occur, unless they spy on people, violating their legal due process rights under the Fourth Amendment. Now pedophilia is different. If a kid is seriously too young that it is considered exploitation, then the parents of the kid should be able to report the crime. But if it's a 16 year old, then no crime will be reported. The only way to enforce laws, therefore, is to snoop into people's private business. Sex is not the government's business.

[EmeraldKnight]

1) Where is "here"?

2) It should be legalized because it is a victimless crime. The only way to enforce laws against a victimless crime is to violate the privacy of innocent people -- which does more damage in the long-run than the victimless crime itself. No one is harmed, so no one reports the crime. Therefore, the police cannot catch anyone, or even know that crimes occur, unless they spy on people, violating their legal due process rights under the Fourth Amendment. Now pedophilia is different. If a kid is seriously too young that it is considered exploitation, then the parents of the kid should be able to report the crime. But if it's a 16 year old, then no crime will be reported. The only way to enforce laws, therefore, is to snoop into people's private business. Sex is not the government's business.

1. Here is California where its supposedly illegal (at least my Health Ed. teacher said that)
2. Well if the minor comes forward and reports it or something? Snooping isnt required to enforce it.. I mean.. ok, the police shouldnt be out looking for cases like that, but if one is reported.. why should it be legalized?

[ComradeRed]

1. Here is California where its supposedly illegal (at least my Health Ed. teacher said that)
2. Well if the minor comes forward and reports it or something? Snooping isnt required to enforce it.. I mean.. ok, the police shouldnt be out looking for cases like that, but if one is reported.. why should it be legalized?

1) Your health ed teacher is probably lying... California being a liberal state and all.

2) If the minor comes forward and reports it, the chance of that is almost zero. And when a teenager does report that, most of the time it would be just to get back at the person older than 18, even though the teenager is just as responsible. There is too much room for abuse in this situation. People are sexually mature after puberty. After puberty, they are biologically meant to have sex. That's how it is. Creating a legal fiction above that is only going to cause more harm.

[ryfitaDF]

2. Its illegal for minors to have sex, even with each other

i know alot more felons than i thought

[EmeraldKnight]

1) Your health ed teacher is probably lying... California being a liberal state and all.

*shrug*

2) If the minor comes forward and reports it, the chance of that is almost zero. And when a teenager does report that, most of the time it would be just to get back at the person older than 18, even though the teenager is just as responsible. There is too much room for abuse in this situation. People are sexually mature after puberty. After puberty, they are biologically meant to have sex. That's how it is. Creating a legal fiction above that is only going to cause more harm.

How is it causing harm? I dont see that..

[SarahxJoy]

Well, guys at my school already hand out condoms to their friends. I mean I guess it has its ups and downs. You wouldn't have to go to the store. But, yeah, it's like encouraging them to have sex. But at least, it'd be SAFE sex.

[EmeraldKnight]

Well, guys at my school already hand out condoms to their friends.  I mean I guess it has its ups and downs. You wouldn't have to go to the store. But, yeah, it's like encouraging them to have sex. But at least, it'd be SAFE sex. 

Its not encouraging them.. its acknowledging the fact that they will have sex.. and besides, its not like the school hands it out to everyone, just the people who ask (at least that's how it works here..)

[jasonjasonjason]

nah, i dont think its a good idea. it would just encourage more sex. if ppl really want to have sex, then they should take the resposibility and go get their own condoms at a drug store or wherever.

[EmeraldKnight]

nah, i dont think its a good idea. it would just encourage more sex. if ppl really want to have sex, then they should take the resposibility and go get their own condoms at a drug store or wherever.

But that's just it.. teenagers dont like to do that.. its better to be safe and have them available at school..

Seriously.. teenagers and responsible... isnt exactly the most common combination, sadly enough..

[ComradeRed]

*shrug*


How is it causing harm? I dont see that..

It would cause harm because people would simply exploit the law to "get back" at boyfriends/girlfriends, even when they were just as responsible for hte sex.

[someflipguy]

Heck yeah...why not I say? People are going to do so at least promote safe sex! Those things can get costly..haha!!

[kantoaznboi]

yea i agree wit ^^^^^

its not like ppl rnt having sex, so y not make sure they r using protection when they are having sexual relations with others.

and u dont really have 2 pass it out, but make it avaliable for the students 2 get without embarassment, so that those that are participating in intercourse, can get the condoms.

[EmeraldKnight]

yea i agree wit ^^^^^

its not like ppl rnt having sex, so y not make sure they r using protection when they are having sexual relations with others.

and u dont really have 2 pass it out, but make it avaliable for the students 2 get without embarassment, so that those that are participating in intercourse, can get the condoms.

Yup, my point exactly; people are saying that the teens should buy them themselves at the pharmacy.. but they dont like to do that because they may feel embarassed; and the school making it available without embarassment helps

[vynni3]

yes distrubution of it is needed cz teens are often time lazy and of course embarassed to buy em the hassles!!
so it should be !

[forgottenrazor]

yea they distribute them in my school you just have to go to the nurses office.

[islandkiss]

nope. Condoms don't protect against stds.. to me, it would feel like our schools were inforcing/encouraging us to have sex..

[*NatiMarie*]

nope. Condoms don't protect against stds.. to me, it would feel like our schools were inforcing us to have sex..

Not really...schools just want protection. Whoever wants to get them it's their business. It's a lot about morals too. I mean, like me personally, I wouldn't get a condom, even if they were free. Schools aren't handing them out, just saying that they have them for whoever wants them. =\
For crazy teens...bleah

[EmeraldKnight]

nope. Condoms don't protect against stds.. to me, it would feel like our schools were inforcing/encouraging us to have sex..

They're better protection than nothing..

Not really...schools just want protection. Whoever wants to get them it's their business. It's a lot about morals too. I mean, like me personally, I wouldn't get a condom, even if they were free. Schools aren't handing them out, just saying that they have them for whoever wants them. =\
For crazy teens...bleah

I agree completely ^

[Sumiaki]

nope. Condoms don't protect against stds.. to me, it would feel like our schools were inforcing/encouraging us to have sex..

Actually where did you hear that? I believe they DO protect against STD's. Maybe you're thinking of birth control pills. Well if im wrong (which i doubt) condoms still prevent against teen pregnancy. Schools would be encouraging us to have sex if they handed out condoms to everyone. My school has them available if you ask.

[visualfusion]

Even though distributing condoms will be somewhat of an "encouragement" from schools to have sex, it's better than not having them at all. Kids are stupid, I know, I am one, and either way they'll do it, so why not have it the safe (99% lab results my ass, more like 70%) way?

[HiddenFaerie]

I suppose it's a good idea. Although it would be encouraging to curious teenagers, but at least it's better than teenagers getting curious without them.

But of coarse theres always the fact that most of your teachers will know your having sex. Which I guess is sort of awkward.

[EmeraldKnight]

But of coarse theres always the fact that most of your teachers will know your having sex. Which I guess is sort of awkward.

No they wont; my school has them avaliable anonymously at the nurses office.. no one has to know, kids'll use it and be safer..

[redsoxbaby87]

no. parents would never agree.

[EmeraldKnight]

no. parents would never agree.

Actually they will and they do.. our school does it, parents know about it, so obviously they agree that its for the better..

They dont want their kids to be sexually active, but they acknowledge that they cant supervise them 24/7 so its better for the schools to offer confidential protection

[aud_chua]

no.. i disagree with that.. i don't like the fact that some people make a joke out of it and open the wrappers and toss the condom around the school.. it's just annoying.. plus.. is the school promoting sex...? i don't like the idea of pre-marital sex.. and if the couple is smart, they wouldn't even need the condom cuz they wouldn't have sex...