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AIDS in Africa
princess2113
post Jul 5 2004, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(anqel_r0h @ Jul 5 2004, 6:09 PM)
i aqree with u mini... i think they shud teach those african students to stop raping... so the aids can be over... i think the aids are increasing in africa...so i think about 20 or more tutors shud go there and teach them to stop... and wat AID can do... if they dont accept it...let them die then... i know im being harsh... but dont they want to live?

ok the ppl there dunt get it frum having sex all the time...if their great great great grandparents have it, then the probably do too...that happends in US n other places too, just not as much
 
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post Jul 5 2004, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jul 5 2004, 4:23 PM)
ok the ppl there dunt get it frum having sex all the time...if their great great great grandparents have it, then the probably do too...that happends in US n other places too, just not as much

um... i dont kno wat to say to that...hmm... oh.... um... but... umm... mellow.gif well i guess then we have to save them... i mean wat if everyone in africa died... that country will be empty O_O;; heh well i guess we gotta save them, but at least a tutor we need... to tell them to stop passing aids... i mean some of their grandparents might not have one... so yeah at least teach them a lesson. just asking do they have any tutors in africa to teach them about it? just at least ONE?
 
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post Jul 5 2004, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(anqel_r0h @ Jul 5 2004, 6:27 PM)
um... i dont kno wat to say to that...hmm... oh.... um... but... umm... mellow.gif well i guess then we have to save them... i mean wat if everyone in africa died... that country will be empty O_O;; heh well i guess we gotta save them, but at least a tutor we need... to tell them to stop passing aids... i mean some of their grandparents might not have one... so yeah at least teach them a lesson. just asking do they have any tutors in africa to teach them about it? just at least ONE?

of course...all those missionaries and stuff...but have u noticed the size of Africa?
 
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post Jul 5 2004, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(Mini @ Jun 29 2004, 4:47 PM)
the problem in africa about aids is the myths. because they heard that if older guys rape younger girls, aids would be cured. but that's a false myth, and its spreading aids everywhere. i think ppl should hire teachers to go to africa and inform this.

sum of men infected with the aids virus were told that if they have sex with a young girl they would be cured because the blood of a young lady would be fresh.

dam, even dads would rape their own daughters.
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even though it would be a good thing to help people in africa, we're in a really big deficit, and so how can we afford to do that.

there are celebrities that help alot with aids and stuff, sooo....
 
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post Jul 5 2004, 07:42 PM
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Let's see... at $10,000 a year... times 600 million people in Africa... means that we'd be spending $6,000,000,000,000 to give every African AIDS drugs... The current budget of the US Government is about $2,000,000,000,000, so we would have to quadruple taxes... would you really want to live in a society with a 188% personal tax rate? For every dollar you earn, you pay $1.88 to buy AIDS drugs for horny African people? How long do you think an economy would last?

Whereas following my plan of sealing off areas with AIDS and letting all the people with AIDS kill each other would only have a negligible cost.
 
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post Jul 5 2004, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jul 5 2004, 6:23 PM)
ok the ppl there dunt get it frum having sex all the time...if their great great great grandparents have it, then the probably do too...that happends in US n other places too, just not as much

Really?

I never heard of AIDs running in the family (unless your grandparent had AIDs and had your mother, then your mother would have AIDs. If she lived long enough to have you, then you would have AIDs).

But you're right that people don't get it from just having sex. If you have an open injury and you're exposed to blood or some other bodily fluids of a person who has AIDs, then you have a good chance of catching the disease.
 
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post Jul 5 2004, 08:09 PM
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AIDS can transfer from woman to child, but not from man to child.
 
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post Jul 5 2004, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 5 2004, 8:09 PM)
Really?

I never heard of AIDs running in the family (unless your grandparent had AIDs and had your mother, then your mother would have AIDs. If she lived long enough to have you, then you would have AIDs).

But you're right that people don't get it from just having sex. If you have an open injury and you're exposed to blood or some other bodily fluids of a person who has AIDs, then you have a good chance of catching the disease.

thats what i meant it wuld be passed down to each woman
 
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post Jul 5 2004, 09:37 PM
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thats what i meant it wuld be passed down to each woman

Yes, it would, providing that she doesnt die of AIDS first (think someone already mentioned it..)
 
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 5 2004, 9:37 PM)
Yes, it would, providing that she doesnt die of AIDS first (think someone already mentioned it..)

*jumps up and down* I did, I did!

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Really?

I never heard of AIDs running in the family (unless your grandparent had AIDs and had your mother, then your mother would have AIDs. If she lived long enough to have you, then you would have AIDs).
 
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post Jul 6 2004, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 6 2004, 12:06 AM)
*jumps up and down* I did, I did!

lol funny funny
yeah i think we shuld help ppl here first...but i mean Africa is on this planet n when more Africans come over here, a lot of them may bring the disease...so i dunno
 
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post Jul 6 2004, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(sweetxsimplicity @ Jul 4 2004, 8:54 PM)
nope. About 60 percent of the people in africa have AIDS, about 6 percent of the people in US have AIDS.

um where did you get that information from?
 
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post Jul 6 2004, 03:20 PM
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That does seem a little high...

Time to consult the CIA World Factbook... the only thing that the CIA has done correctly:

United States AIDS Infection Rate: 0.6%
Africa AIDS Infection Rate: I'm not going to calculate the whole thing, but the highest country is Zimbawbwe with 33.4% infection rate.
 
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post Jul 6 2004, 03:21 PM
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i should've just edited but anyways.

princess what you last said is ignorant, if you didn't know it isn't Africans who are bringing the dieases over. The Europeans and Spainards brought the diseases over. And just recently the Europeans have brought mad cow and such over.

Ya'll(excluding, fae,emerald, and com) post like everyone in the CONTINENT(please remember continent) is stupid and uneduated. Atleast know your facts and present your sources before you say anything.

This should be named how to deal with the ENTIRE AIDS epidemic.

Here are some facts for everyone.

8.5%(a contrast to the "60%") of Africans have AIDs.
North Africa & the Middle East 0.2-0.4%
South & South East Asia 0.4-0.8%
East Asia & Pacific 0.1-0.1%
Latin America 0.5-0.7 %
Caribbean 1.9-3.1 %
Eastern Europe & Central Asia05-0.9%
Western Europe 0.3-0.3%
North America 0.5-0.7%
Australia & New Zealand- 0.1-0.1%
from Avert.org

It just makes me so mad how people have a twisted views of Africans like we are all barbaric and stupid and have AIDS. I mean shoot i just got it bad, I'm,African,Black,Christian,American, and a female
 
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post Jul 6 2004, 03:22 PM
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The Europeans brought over like ... smallpox. Geez, people should get over things from 500 years ago. I'm Chinese and I'm not angry at the Mongols...
 
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post Jul 6 2004, 05:16 PM
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princess what you last said is ignorant, if you didn't know it isn't Africans who are bringing the dieases over. The Europeans and Spainards brought the diseases over. And just recently the Europeans have brought mad cow and such over.

how was i ignorant? maybe u misunderstood what i said...im saying i think we need to help the ppl in the US first...i mean its our tax $$ it shuld cover our country, but they still live on the same planet as us...we are all somehow related and should help those in need...and i was just making a point saying that when they if they come to the US, or any other coutry, as our universe gets more diveres, they bring the disease...i never said that the Europeans didnt give it to the Africans and i also never said they were uneducated, tons of them dont even get it by having sex...im not sure what i said that offended u...but sorry? ive agreed with all ur other post thou so...im not even debating u so u dunt need to be offended sad.gif
 
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post Jul 7 2004, 01:26 AM
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Here are some facts for everyone.

8.5%(a contrast to the "60%") of Africans have AIDs.
North Africa & the Middle East 0.2-0.4%
South & South East Asia 0.4-0.8%
East Asia & Pacific 0.1-0.1%
Latin America 0.5-0.7 %
Caribbean 1.9-3.1 %
Eastern Europe & Central Asia05-0.9%
Western Europe 0.3-0.3%
North America 0.5-0.7%
Australia & New Zealand- 0.1-0.1%
from Avert.org

It just makes me so mad how people have a twisted views of Africans like we are all barbaric and stupid and have AIDS. I mean shoot i just got it bad, I'm,African,Black,Christian,American, and a female

Thanks for the facts, and well.. you can't easily changed centuries of cultural views..

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The Europeans brought over like ... smallpox. Geez, people should get over things from 500 years ago. I'm Chinese and I'm not angry at the Mongols...

The Europeans could've brought AIDS as well, but the probability of African's bringing it would be higher because it originated in Africa; what are you saying with the 500 years thing?

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how was i ignorant? maybe u misunderstood what i said...im saying i think we need to help the ppl in the US first...i mean its our tax $$ it shuld cover our country, but they still live on the same planet as us...we are all somehow related and should help those in need...and i was just making a point saying that when they if they come to the US, or any other coutry, as our universe gets more diveres, they bring the disease...i never said that the Europeans didnt give it to the Africans and i also never said they were uneducated, tons of them dont even get it by having sex...im not sure what i said that offended u...but sorry? ive agreed with all ur other post thou so...im not even debating u so u dunt need to be offended 

Mm.. they may have originally brought the disease, but once in another country, and once it spreads, its impossible to trace with all the transportation now connecting the world..

Wait.. "I never said that the Europeans didnt give it to the Africans"? it originated in Africa.. Africa had to give it to Europe first..

We do need to help those in need, but onli after helping ourselves..
What good is trying to help them if it will hurt us right now?
Ok, I agree.. some time in the future, we should do more to help, but now is not the time.. with an ongoing war on terror, an enormous budget deficit, continued inflation, how can we spare resources to help a whole continent?
 
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it originated in africa, in the places where the european civilization put it's mark.

first, they built a highway. truckers go through fast.
they brought prostitution. they ply thier trade along the road.

small village in jungle, someone eats some monkey meat, get it. usually, it's isolated. but then he gets a job as a trucker, picks up some whores along the way...

then one of the whores feels sick, goes to a clinic that only uses one needle per day for everyone because they don't have enough money. 100s of people now have it.
then they go to clinics again.

that's how it happens. it's where the old and new cross.

south africa(the country) -- 30% aids rate. look it up, CIA world factbook.
 
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post Jul 15 2004, 12:39 PM
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the US is not doing enough, as proved that they denied one billion dollars to the UN at the AIDs confrence, yet still have 89 billion to fund the war in iraq.
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2004, 12:39 PM)
the US is not doing enough, as proved that they denied one billion dollars to the UN  at the AIDs confrence, yet still have 89 billion to fund the war in iraq.

WHY should we do anything more than we already have?

Uh... is it Americans fault that people have aids or something?
 
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post Jul 15 2004, 12:54 PM
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why shouldn't we help?

your fellow humans are dying, and you will not save them?
 
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QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 15 2004, 12:54 PM)
why shouldn't we help?

your fellow humans are dying, and you will not save them?

Right, we SHOULD help them because it's the moral thing to do...

BUT we have no OBLIGATIONS to do so.

Those are two different things. We don't NEED to help, but we should help becaus lives are important.

Why must there be a set amount that WE need shell out? We have to give 1 billion while other european countries COMBINE give 1 billion.

Is that fair?

I mean, we're one country, and they're.... i think there's more than 10 of them (in the Euro zone, I'll check later).
 
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 15 2004, 12:47 PM)
Uh... is it Americans fault that people have aids or something?

Definitely. Everyone knows that. http://english.pravda.ru/mailbox/22/98/395/13372_AIDS.html
 
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jul 15 2004, 1:06 PM)

Hmm, okay I read it... it doesn't tell me, that as an American, what my role is with other people getting Aids.

The author also says that "the good news is that HIV/AIDS are completely curable."

I don't know about you, but I find that funny.
 
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It shows that americans are responsible for developing AIDS as a bioterrorism weapon, and also for hiding reall easy cures.
 

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