Log In · Register

 

Debate Rules

Here are the general forum rules that you must follow before you start any debate topics. Please make sure you've read and followed all directions.

Debate.

5 Pages V  < 1 2 3 4 5 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
violent video games, do they pose a threat?
do violent video games such as grandtheft auto pose a threat to todays society?
You cannot see the results of the poll until you have voted. Please login and cast your vote to see the results of this poll.
Total Votes: 25
Guests cannot vote 
EmeraldKnight
post Jul 5 2004, 09:33 PM
Post #51


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,795
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,421



QUOTE
i said a little... well to let u know this... lotta children who plays violent video game can turn into a bad child... they can learn everything from a game and from music like eminem and 50 cent <_<;;; they cuss and stuff...children can hear those like from everywhere... so it's affecting those kids... and also of course teenagers lols...but i dont know.... i heard that it let their stress out away from them... cause lotta ppls wen they get mad...they just want to hurt someone and just get into a fight or kill themselves...so they play violent games so they can relieve their stress...is that true? O_O if so, thats scary O_O 

Exactly, though video games might not be the onli source of violent influences, shouldnt we try to restrict the sources as much as possible?
 
sadolakced acid
post Jul 5 2004, 10:09 PM
Post #52


dripping destruction
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 7,282
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 21,929



in violent video games, you're learning how to kill people. on a personal level.

this stuff is dangerous.
 
EmeraldKnight
post Jul 5 2004, 10:30 PM
Post #53


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,795
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,421



QUOTE
in violent video games, you're learning how to kill people. on a personal level.

this stuff is dangerous.

It is to a certain extent.. I mean, if you're mature enough to leave it in the game completely.. then sure, they're fine.. but not very many people are like that, and the game's influence is carried into reality, and that's why they're dangerous
 
someflipguy
post Jul 6 2004, 01:36 PM
Post #54


I can't believe its not "Ryan"
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,981
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 21,368



I myself dont care and dont think it poses no threat...i believe its the parents responsibility to take care of what their kids do and watch..
 
Spirited Away
post Jul 6 2004, 03:07 PM
Post #55


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



To everyone who's saying that it's the parents' responsibility to censor their children's activity:

Do you think that your parents can control everything you do? Do you think that your parents made you who you are today (your character, your beliefs, your ideals)?
 
EmeraldKnight
post Jul 7 2004, 01:14 AM
Post #56


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,795
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,421



QUOTE
To everyone who's saying that it's the parents' responsibility to censor their children's activity:

Do you think that your parents can control everything you do? Do you think that your parents made you who you are today (your character, your beliefs, your ideals)?

Haha, I'd like to see anyone answer yes..

QUOTE
I myself dont care and dont think it poses no threat...i believe its the parents responsibility to take care of what their kids do and watch..

Even if you didnt mind parental supervision 24/7, parents simply can't do that
 
kyuubi319
post Jul 7 2004, 08:35 AM
Post #57


I am Sandy. Hear me roar.
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,152
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 15,896



QUOTE
The tv I agree with.. but the ratings.. meh.. no.. lots of my friends.. have parents that buy it for them that dont read the ratings.. or, they have older siblings do so

true, i suppose
 
sadolakced acid
post Jul 7 2004, 11:03 AM
Post #58


dripping destruction
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 7,282
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 21,929



killing video games teach you the killing mindset. it teaches you to ignore pleas of mercy and kill. it teaches you to shoot first and ask later.
 
huihead
post Jul 7 2004, 11:06 AM
Post #59


Senior Member
****

Group: Member
Posts: 228
Joined: Apr 2004
Member No: 11,737



i think it depends. if a person is easily influenced by the things they see, such as kids, yes. even if a person isn't the violence does have some effect. so yea..
 
EmeraldKnight
post Jul 7 2004, 11:44 AM
Post #60


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,795
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,421



QUOTE
think it depends. if a person is easily influenced by the things they see, such as kids, yes. even if a person isn't the violence does have some effect. so yea..

How would you know if the person is easily influenced or not?
 
Justingamemaster
post Jul 7 2004, 11:51 AM
Post #61


mmm....beer....
*****

Group: Member
Posts: 752
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 24,854



Dumb kids are influenced.
Smart kids know its just a game and won't mimic it.
 
Spirited Away
post Jul 7 2004, 11:54 AM
Post #62


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



QUOTE(Justingamemaster @ Jul 7 2004, 11:51 AM)
Dumb kids are influenced.
Smart kids know its just a game and won't mimic it.

Are there more dumb kids than smart kids? What makes a kid "smart"?
 
EmeraldKnight
post Jul 7 2004, 11:55 AM
Post #63


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,795
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,421



QUOTE
Dumb kids are influenced.
Smart kids know its just a game and won't mimic it.

You sure?

I hate it when people generalize things like that..

Intelligence has nothing to do with maturity
 
*kryogenix*
post Jul 7 2004, 12:05 PM
Post #64





Guest






QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 7 2004, 11:55 AM)
Intelligence has nothing to do with maturity

neither does age
 
Spirited Away
post Jul 7 2004, 06:02 PM
Post #65


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 7 2004, 12:05 PM)
neither does age

Then how mature can a child/kid be, to know the difference of the rightness and wrongness in violent games, if it is not his age nor intelligence that decide what is good and bad?
 
*kryogenix*
post Jul 7 2004, 06:04 PM
Post #66





Guest






QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 7 2004, 6:02 PM)
Then how mature can a child/kid be, to know the difference of the rightness and wrongness in violent games, if it is not his age nor intelligence that decide what is good and bad?

behavior and demonstration of common sense proves maturity. you can be a genious and still be immature, as well as be an immature 50 year old.
 
Spirited Away
post Jul 7 2004, 06:06 PM
Post #67


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 7 2004, 6:04 PM)
behavior and demonstration of common sense proves maturity. you can be a genious and still be immature, as well as be an immature 50 year old.

Then should violent games only be available to children who possess this level of maturity?

But then again, how many children are that mature?
 
ThunderEvermore
post Jul 7 2004, 06:29 PM
Post #68


Quincy
*****

Group: Member
Posts: 872
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 23,613



I remember when I was young Id paint my body yellow and run around saying "Wakka Wakka".

There is a reason for these Ratings on video games. Sure, not all abide by them, but truly, who could play a game and feel they have to go out and kill people? If you really imitate something you see on TV or in a video game your parents arent teaching you properly. Maybe it cant be controlled what you do, play, and watch by your parents, but they CAN teach you the difference between reality and make believe.

Mario - Make believe
Pac-Man - Make believe
GTA - Crap....and make believe
 
EmeraldKnight
post Jul 7 2004, 10:59 PM
Post #69


Senior Member
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,795
Joined: May 2004
Member No: 16,421



QUOTE
Then should violent games only be available to children who possess this level of maturity?

But then again, how many children are that mature?

Yes.

For something like GTA, probably next to none.. that's why its rated M (although far too many kids get their hands on it..)

QUOTE
There is a reason for these Ratings on video games. Sure, not all abide by them, but truly, who could play a game and feel they have to go out and kill people? If you really imitate something you see on TV or in a video game your parents arent teaching you properly. Maybe it cant be controlled what you do, play, and watch by your parents, but they CAN teach you the difference between reality and make believe.

Mario - Make believe
Pac-Man - Make believe
GTA - Crap....and make believe

I understand your point.. but the thing is, video games and technology have advanced so far in their realism.. we're talking VIOLENT video games here, not Mario or Pac Man..

With these next generation consoles, the games are DESIGNED to look REAL, and will have an effect on children
 
sadolakced acid
post Jul 8 2004, 02:51 PM
Post #70


dripping destruction
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 7,282
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 21,929



we're talking games that are more realistic than army training games.

more gore, more blood, more realistic.
 
*kryogenix*
post Jul 8 2004, 03:02 PM
Post #71





Guest






QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 8 2004, 2:51 PM)
we're talking games that are more realistic than army training games.

more gore, more blood, more realistic.

i'm sorry, i didn't think army training was a game.
 
Sumiaki
post Jul 8 2004, 03:22 PM
Post #72


NO WAI! R u Srs?
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,264
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 28,094



Hmm... This topic can go on forever. There's really one specific thing/person to blame for a kid's actions. But there are certain things that add up to a persons behavior. Because of the technology advancing, video game industries try to make games more "realistic". In order to sell their products, they have to make it interesting/fun. Usually violence is what makes games fun. There is violence everywhere. The media, movies, even simple cartoons like Tom and Jerry. It's just the combination of "realism" and violence that make video games the way they are. Because of todays busy lifestyle, parents have little time to spend with their children. The time that children are alone means less supervision. Most parents don't even know a thing about video games, computers, or consoles. But they still buy them for their children because.... they want them. Not many parents take out the time of their busy schedule to research on what's suitable for their kid. Think about it, do your parents really know what you do on the internet? But why just point out videogames? Why not the news, movies, or parenting skills? Why play the blame game? Sure videogames can effect children, but everything else does too. It's just the matter of putting it into context for lil children to understand what is real and what is wrong.

On a side note, violent video games like GTA3 help relieve my stress on a video game rather in real life. happy.gif
 
*kryogenix*
post Jul 8 2004, 03:25 PM
Post #73





Guest






QUOTE(WunKraziePinoy @ Jul 8 2004, 3:22 PM)
On a side note, violent video games like GTA3 help relieve my stress on a video game rather in real life. happy.gif

Really? So if I were to take away your GTA3, you would have no choice but to go on a rampage in your city?
 
Sumiaki
post Jul 8 2004, 03:33 PM
Post #74


NO WAI! R u Srs?
******

Group: Member
Posts: 1,264
Joined: Jul 2004
Member No: 28,094



QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 8 2004, 3:25 PM)
Really? So if I were to take away your GTA3, you would have no choice but to go on a rampage in your city?

Nope, cause the city didnt take my GTA3 away shifty.gif
 
Spirited Away
post Jul 8 2004, 05:04 PM
Post #75


Quand j'étais jeune...
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 6,826
Joined: Jan 2004
Member No: 1,272



QUOTE(WunKraziePinoy @ Jul 8 2004, 3:22 PM)
Sure videogames can effect children, but everything else does too. It's just the matter of putting it into context for lil children to understand what is real and what is wrong.

So because video games are only small contribution, we should ignore them all together? Hmmm.......................................

Okay, how about a simple math problem:

a+b=c

1+1=2
1+2=3
1+3=4... and the pattern goes on...

Okay now:

let a=one child.
let b=the number of violent games in the child's possession.
let c=the amount of damage.


Result: the more violent games a child has, the more damage/violence in children... Stupid children, who can't think for themselves. (<-sarcasm)



Okay, so that may not be a very sound example of what could happen. But the idea is that: if we can eliminate at least one of many problems, things could yield to a better result.
 

5 Pages V  < 1 2 3 4 5 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: