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Downloading free music.
ryfitaDF
post Jun 19 2004, 01:08 PM
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the artists get most of their money from touring. you're really hurting the record labels when you "pirate" mp3s.

do you know how much money van gough got for his art? i'm pretty sure he got none. if you're in it for the money you're not really an "artist" in my opinion.
 
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post Jun 19 2004, 01:16 PM
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the artists get most of their money from touring. you're really hurting the record labels when you "pirate" mp3s.

do you know how much money van gough got for his art? i'm pretty sure he got none. if you're in it for the money you're not really an "artist" in my opinion.

ok, it doesn't matter if the money is going to the artist or the label, someone is still losing money.

even if the artists aren't doing it for the money, that money could go to charity.


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Not everyone has access to a P2P network.


yeah, and those people will be force to buy cd's or listen to the radio.
 
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post Jun 19 2004, 03:23 PM
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hmm i don't think it should be legal but i don't think that the issue should have as much importance as it does now. laws have bigger fish to fry and better things to protect. i guess downloading music can be interpreted as wrong ... sure. but that doesn't really stop me. whether or not someone downloads music off the internet the people that are really making the money get it through different means. this is just a small chunk of the revenue for them. most people go out and buy it anyway. the fact of the matter is, i don't think a lot of artists really mine. the assumption that people will go out and buy the cd just because they can't download it is wrong. i for one would just stick w. the radio and hope the song i want to hear comes on. *shrugs*. sure they may publicaly announce that they think its wrong ... i mean what artist is gonna say that they endorse people getting music through illegal downloading? get real! so i don't really think that it should be a problem. fine keep the law if you really must. but just let it slide. happy.gif
 
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post Jun 19 2004, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(xoirene @ Jun 18 2004, 5:33 PM)
If the recording companies want people to buy their cds then they should lower their prices. 15 bucks for a CD with just a few likable songs is ridiculous.

No one asked you to buy the cd. rolleyes.gif You could like just buy an mp3 on itunes or something like that.

why should you get to download free music? It leads to piracy...the quality sucks...and the fact of the matter is that the songs are copywrited. I for one am happy that they cracked down the the napster case. They should freaking shut down kaaza while they are at it. Well this is totally off...but a similar jist from the AA shopping forum..."Ralph Lauren need to feed his family tooo!" happy.gif basically by downloading...you're stealing. personally i agree that cd prices are a bit outrageous from time to time...but deal with it...just be happy that its not like gasoline!

ryfitaDF...van gogh is a pretty bad example...since he didn't sell anyway art when he was alive. it was not until he kicked the bucket that his art actually became famous.
 
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post Jun 19 2004, 09:24 PM
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yeah, and those people will be force to buy cd's or listen to the radio.

If they like the band/artist or whatever, theyll probably buy the CD or the people at the radio stattion [i think] will buy the record to play. I'm not sure about the latter, but they still get their money.
 
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post Jun 20 2004, 04:07 PM
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If the recording companies want people to buy their cds then they should lower their prices. 15 bucks for a CD with just a few likable songs is ridiculous.


tru dat. people wouldn't want to steal so much if they didn't feel like they were getting ripped off.

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ryfitaDF...van gogh is a pretty bad example...since he didn't sell anyway art when he was alive. it was not until he kicked the bucket that his art actually became famous.


yea i guess you're right. but what i meant is why does money have to be such a big deal? if people are downloading your music they must like you. they're going against the law to hear you! and, also, free music gets it out to more people. at every show i've gone to they've passes out sampler CDs, and now there are even sampler mp3s to download. i like this concept. i know stealing is bad, but downloading mp3s is not all bad.
 
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post Jun 20 2004, 04:41 PM
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i do
 
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post Jun 30 2004, 07:37 AM
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i always have, and always will download movies and music
 
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post Jul 4 2004, 02:06 PM
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i think it should be illegal b/c we are stealing the artust music but the cost of cds need to lowered
 
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post Jul 4 2004, 02:33 PM
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ok its wrong -- and it should be enforced more strongly..
yea like som1 already sed.. there needs to be a compromise
maaybe the price of cds will be lowered to real cheap :] then this downloading music thing wouldnt be alive - no nvm, it would stillk be.. :L:SIGH:: i dunno ><;
 
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post Jul 4 2004, 08:52 PM
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It's illegal because the music people download are copyrighted songs.

I don't think it should be legal, and its not, because then CD stores wouldn't make any money..

Umm...thoughts? I don't really have any thoughts. lol xD
 
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post Jul 4 2004, 09:38 PM
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For the most part, yes..

But if its a realli old song that you can't find for sale anymore, then what other way can you get it?
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 08:56 PM
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i think it should be legall.. just because i'm afriad of being arrested and sued.

yup..

i think that money shouldn't matter, and everything should just be free. then people wouldn't want to steal stuff because they have access to it anyway. but some people would take advantage of it..

eh... that's my dream. then i can go to a store and grab all these cds bwahhahaha

and an ipod mini in pink... *drool* dribble.gif

yup.
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 10:16 PM
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i think it should be legall.. just because i'm afriad of being arrested and sued.

yup..

i think that money shouldn't matter, and everything should just be free. then people wouldn't want to steal stuff because they have access to it anyway. but some people would take advantage of it..

eh... that's my dream. then i can go to a store and grab all these cds bwahhahaha

and an ipod mini in pink... *drool* 

Erm... its not a very realistic society.. wouldnt work well either.. if everything was free..
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 11:29 PM
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I have the right to share my own files.
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 05:31 AM
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kinda like robin hood. steal from the rich and give to the poor.
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(Dopo @ Jul 9 2004, 11:29 PM)
I have the right to share my own files.

I agree!
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 08:05 AM
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QUOTE(xoirene @ Jun 18 2004, 5:33 PM)
sharing music through kazaa or morpheus isn't piracy because 1.) it's like sharing CDs with ur friends, which is not illegal, and 2.) No one is making money out of it.

If the recording companies want people to buy their cds then they should lower their prices. 15 bucks for a CD with just a few likable songs is ridiculous.

Yeah no ones making money out of it, INCLUDING the artist. Filesharing/Free music downloading is illegal and should stay illegal. If you want free music go to Norway. And if you dont want to pay $15 a cd, dowload iTunes and get the whole album for 99 cents a song, thats what I do. And technically sharing cd's with you friends is illegal if you copy the cd or put it on their computer.

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And for the people of you who think the artists make millions of dollars on albums, the truth is they only make 10-20 thousand dollars after all the expenses (studio time, cd production, etc.)
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 01:17 PM
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I have the right to share my own files.

Not when you don't have the license to do so. The songs are intellectual property. You're giving away someone else's property. How is that not wrong?
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 02:31 PM
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I don't download any music I don't have the CD of the artist for.

But see I have over 500 CD's I can download quite a bit of my favorite music.

But DVD's is another story...
 
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post Jul 12 2004, 09:57 PM
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if it was legal, well, for the society.. hell yeah! that would be great..

but then again.. the artists wouldn't be getting money..for their copyrighted work.
 
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post Jul 13 2004, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE(xoirene @ Jun 18 2004, 2:33 PM)
sharing music through kazaa or morpheus isn't piracy because 1.) it's like sharing CDs with ur friends, which is not illegal, and 2.) No one is making money out of it.

1.) Not all people on P2P networks are friends, and if you are allowing people to download your files, you are allowing everyone to download it, and unless you know a 600,000+ users on the network, they're not all friends.
2.) Some people WILL download the files and sell it. Not saying all, but some will.


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If the recording companies want people to buy their cds then they should lower their prices. 15 bucks for a CD with just a few likable songs is ridiculous.

Yes, I totally agree. I mean... CD-R cd's now are about $.90 [+-] and it only takes about 1 minute to make each CD, and even if you do add the "labor" needed to make it, it still can NOT be $15 in any way!
 
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post Jul 13 2004, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE(iheartsimba @ Jun 9 2004, 2:35 AM)
it shouldn't be legal. Becuase people have jobs making cds and if they don't seel em, theres problems.

Although...what am I to say, I download music anyway =D

and nomatter what we do, there are gonna be ways to steel it so we might as well compromise

yea, i feel da same
 
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post Jul 13 2004, 08:52 AM
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I guess the artists are upset for the loss of profits. But I can't really talk since I'll download anyways. It'll all started with a little program called Napster blink.gif and I was hooked.

Besides most albums only have like three songs that are worth listening to.
 
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post Jul 13 2004, 08:51 PM
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i think pepole should pay $.99 per song that way they pay and they dont have to buy to the whole cd.
 
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