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princess2113
post Jul 1 2004, 08:42 PM
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y does America try to control other countries...i mean we want them to be free...but like Japan, we dont let them have weapons...dont get me wrong i know its for our protection...it just seems like we alwayz get exactly what we want, and when we dont...there goes a war
 
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ComradeRed
post Jul 3 2004, 11:01 PM
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And those missiles wouldn't be launching at us, like they currently are, so why should we care?
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 11:04 PM
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And those missiles wouldn't be launching at us, like they currently are, so why should we care? 

Exactly, why should we go and defend other countries and hurt ourselves in the process?
 
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post Jul 3 2004, 11:46 PM
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So true. I'm sick of hearinf of these 19 year old soldiers being killed. We had no business going into Iraq and our time is up. Let them kill each other, as long as they aren't killing us i'll be fine.
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 12:22 PM
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yeahhh we should just leave all the other countries alone. i mean like just cuz we got more power doesnt mean we get to boss dem around, not like were the boss .
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 12:27 PM
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Yea, everything this country does comes off as arrogant. I do believe we should help some unfortunate countries, but lets not take it to far.
 
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post Jul 9 2004, 01:17 PM
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Yea, everything this country does comes off as arrogant. I do believe we should help some unfortunate countries, but lets not take it to far. 

Exactly. Not onli do we not have the right, its also harming us.. our resources, our personnel are being expended in doing this
 
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post Jul 10 2004, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jul 1 2004, 8:42 PM)
y does America try to control other countries...i mean we want them to be free...but like Japan, we dont let them have weapons...dont get me wrong i know its for our protection...it just seems like we alwayz get exactly what we want, and when we dont...there goes a war

most of the world sees us as arrogant assholes who care about nothing but themselves. but really it is our leaders who control us. once they are in office they rule our country with veryy!! little input from us...
 
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post Jul 10 2004, 11:44 PM
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most of the world sees us as arrogant assholes who care about nothing but themselves. but really it is our leaders who control us. once they are in office they rule our country with veryy!! little input from us...

We did vote for them... well some of us did.._dry.gif
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 1 2004, 10:55 PM)
don't you mean korea? i've never heard of japan having any weapons...

ditto
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 09:52 PM
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Our country sucks balls right about now, to be quite frank. I think the US is a big spoiled baby who just got a slap in the face because everything didn't go exactly as the government wanted it to. I'm sneaking across the border to Canada--who's with me? 

-Sarah

Haha, I'll stay here a while longer.. but that definitely seems like a good option if this keeps up..
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 2 2004, 12:45 PM)
I'm not too sure about this, so correct me if I'm wrong.. BUT

Japan doesn't have a much of a military compare to the USA. Infact, someone told me that they depend on American military more than ever simply because their tax money goes towards education the most and the least goes to military, or something like that. I'm sure they don't mind US presence in their country.

yea... as a japanese person i hav to admit. japan does depend on america for many thingz. but really, is america becoming an EMPIRE or sumthing? juz because u guyz all a lil more stable and rich than other countries....
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 10:35 PM
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yea... as a japanese person i hav to admit. japan does depend on america for many thingz. but really, is america becoming an EMPIRE or sumthing? juz because u guyz all a lil more stable and rich than other countries....

Sadly I'd say it is becoming an empire..

Rich? Perhaps somewhat.. (thought at the rate we're going I doubt that'll be for too long..)

Stable? Depends on what you're comparing to..
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(tootsie_kiddo @ Jul 11 2004, 10:18 PM)
yea... as a japanese person i hav to admit. japan does depend on america for many thingz. but really, is america becoming an EMPIRE or sumthing? juz because u guyz all a lil more stable and rich than other countries....

I disagree, somewhat.

For the most part, some of the world is catching up, for example, the Japanese's technological advancement is incredible, and Europe's Euro is doing better than the American dollar. America's economy is pretty... hmm.. stagnant (not sure if this is the word I want to use) right now.

I don't know if "empire" is the word to use, because it's often associated with sovereignty and even independency from other countries. But I don't think we're independent at all. In fact, we must depend on the economies of other countries and foreign investments to keep our economy up to standards. Therefore, if we should overstep our boundaries, the rest of the world will let us know...

Instead, I'd like to think that we're globalizing, economically speaking. <-- I think I totally went off topic there...
 
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post Jul 11 2004, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(Arimalka @ Jul 11 2004, 7:58 PM)
Our country sucks balls right about now, to be quite frank. I think the US is a big spoiled baby who just got a slap in the face because everything didn't go exactly as the government wanted it to. I'm sneaking across the border to Canada--who's with me? wink.gif

-Sarah

ill come with... lol but yeah our country sucks right now....
 
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post Jul 12 2004, 12:02 AM
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For the most part, some of the world is catching up, for example, the Japanese's technological advancement is incredible, and Europe's Euro is doing better than the American dollar. America's economy is pretty... hmm.. stagnant (not sure if this is the word I want to use) right now.

Yes, I agree, economy is certainly not looking the best right now..

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I don't know if "empire" is the word to use, because it's often associated with sovereignty and even independency from other countries. But I don't think we're independent at all. In fact, we must depend on the economies of other countries and foreign investments to keep our economy up to standards. Therefore, if we should overstep our boundaries, the rest of the world will let us know...

Instead, I'd like to think that we're globalizing, economically speaking. <-- I think I totally went off topic there...

Well not an a true empire, at least not like one of the classical empires..
But I do say that we ARE overstepping our boundaries, and the rest of the world HAS let us know.. yet do we care? No.
 
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 12 2004, 12:02 AM)
Well not an a true empire, at least not like one of the classical empires..
But I do say that we ARE overstepping our boundaries, and the rest of the world HAS let us know.. yet do we care? No.

In my opinion, we're only testing the waters, not overstepping boundaries just yet. Even if we are, it's nothing too grave. _unsure.gif
 
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post Jul 12 2004, 12:07 AM
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In my opinion, we're only testing the waters, not overstepping boundaries just yet. Even if we are, it's nothing too grave. 

Nothing too grave? You sure about that? And how much is "too grave"? I dont have any facts on me.. so you'll have to wait till I go search or till Minda shows up tongue.gif
 
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 12 2004, 12:07 AM)
Nothing too grave? You sure about that? And how much is "too grave"? I dont have any facts on me.. so you'll have to wait till I go search or till Minda shows up tongue.gif

Sure, something too grave would be if our intentions are something like the next holocaust.

We're testing the waters and we're already getting chilled. We know that the rest of the world do not approve of our actions.
 
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post Jul 12 2004, 07:17 PM
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Then we should withdraw as soon as possible. No empire has ever lasted without destroying the Republic it was built on. And I'd rather have a Republic than an empire.
 
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Then we should withdraw as soon as possible. No empire has ever lasted without destroying the Republic it was built on. And I'd rather have a Republic than an empire.

*nod* why were you talking about being Facist in the "why bush..." thread?
 
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post Jul 13 2004, 11:46 AM
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Because Bush and Kerry are both fascists, or have significant fascist leanings (Kerry slightly more so than Bush, but Bush will have absolute power while Kerry will be hogtied, so it's tough).
 
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Because Bush and Kerry are both fascists, or have significant fascist leanings (Kerry slightly more so than Bush, but Bush will have absolute power while Kerry will be hogtied, so it's tough).

How are they both fascists?
 
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jul 4 2004, 12:46 AM)
So true. I'm sick of hearinf of these 19 year old soldiers being killed. We had no business going into Iraq and our time is up. Let them kill each other, as long as they aren't killing us i'll be fine.

When you go into the military, you take that chance of getting killed. No one forced the 19 year old to fight. It was their own will.

When we invaded Iraq, it was like a ying-yang (the idea of good with bad). Yeah so some people hate us, but on the other hand look how many lives we have saved. Most Iraqis would of died somehow if Hussien was still in power. And if they were killing each other that would be bad. Just imagine your country in that situation, your family and friends dying because of a heartless leader.

And some people saying fighting for peace is dumb, well what are you doing to do? Sit there and die? I mean damn, I'd rather go out there and do something than sit my ass at home and watch TV.
 
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post Jul 13 2004, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jul 1 2004, 8:45 PM)
I'm not too sure about this, so correct me if I'm wrong.. BUT

Japan doesn't have a much of a military compare to the USA. Infact, someone told me that they depend on American military more than ever simply because their tax money goes towards education the most and the least goes to military, or something like that. I'm sure they don't mind US presence in their country.

Didn't we also take their weapons away because of Pearl Harbour?
 
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QUOTE(inlonelinessidie @ Jul 13 2004, 4:52 PM)
Didn't we also take their weapons away because of Pearl Harbour?

I'm sure it wasn't only us, the Allies probably concurred thinking that it was the best thing to do after what happened.
 

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