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Jun 29 2004, 09:56 PM
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![]() SaSuKeNaRu ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 223 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 22,819 |
Steroids.. surrre if u want organs enlarged and shrunken (gender wise)
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Jun 30 2004, 07:23 AM
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ugh
1) steroids can be used safely, even though our wonderful government doesnt want you to think so(but they ALWAYS have noble reasons for laws and are ALWAYS right 2) STEROIDS ARE NOT A MAGICAL PILL!!! you can't shoot heart...you can't swallowa pill full of skill.....the ONLY thing steroids do is increase protein synthesis....eg: allow the body to synthesize more protein quicker....athletes on steroids have to work HARDER on their diet. if it is not perfect, the steroids wont work. simple as that. 3) the anabolic steroid control act, which made steroids illegal, was passed BECAUSE of athletics. there is NOT ONE mention of health in the bill, but simply a bill about fair play in the olympics and pro sports. SInce when does sports govern the nation 4) why the hell are steroids classified with heroin and cocaine, and not in the lesser 2 categories of controlled substances??? I forgot, because someone goes to the gym and wants to be accelerate gains, they MUST be as bad as someone dealin crack to kids 5) the first person who mentions protein powder/creatine/pro-hormones/ephedrine/glutamine/any other nutritional supplement as a steroid deserves to be hit by a bus 6) fudge this government and its bullshit laws....they ban ephedrine, andro and pro-hormones without proving shit, yet smoking and alcohol are perfectly legal. even though all these products HAD warning labels, theyre illegal to protect fvcking idiots. Yet tobacco is legal? people MISUSED ephedrine and hurt themselves b/c Darwin was correct and they were morons, yet it's the products fault. SO i guess next time I take 56 of whatever the doc gives me for a cold, it must be his fault im sick and fvcking tired of this nation passing the blame...."its not ur fault ur fat" "its not ur fault u hurt yourself" "its not your fault u died" fvck you, it IS your fault, your a moron, Darwin was a genious, and you are doing the world a favor by wiping it of your seed /rant |
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Jun 30 2004, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE ugh 1) steroids can be used safely, even though our wonderful government doesnt want you to think so(but they ALWAYS have noble reasons for laws and are ALWAYS right ) Also, if you're not an idiot, and you run an intelligent cycle, at the proper length/dose, and with proper post-cycle anti-aromitizer's, you will be FINE. Side effects are nullified with the use of post-cycle products. 2) STEROIDS ARE NOT A MAGICAL PILL!!! you can't shoot heart...you can't swallowa pill full of skill.....the ONLY thing steroids do is increase protein synthesis....eg: allow the body to synthesize more protein quicker....athletes on steroids have to work HARDER on their diet. if it is not perfect, the steroids wont work. simple as that. 3) the anabolic steroid control act, which made steroids illegal, was passed BECAUSE of athletics. there is NOT ONE mention of health in the bill, but simply a bill about fair play in the olympics and pro sports. SInce when does sports govern the nation theres a reason sports have their own individual rules and testing. 4) why the hell are steroids classified with heroin and cocaine, and not in the lesser 2 categories of controlled substances??? I forgot, because someone goes to the gym and wants to be accelerate gains, they MUST be as bad as someone dealin crack to kids 5) the first person who mentions protein powder/creatine/pro-hormones/ephedrine/glutamine/any other nutritional supplement as a steroid deserves to be hit by a bus 6) fudge this government and its bullshit laws....they ban ephedrine, andro and pro-hormones without proving shit, yet smoking and alcohol are perfectly legal. even though all these products HAD warning labels, theyre illegal to protect fvcking idiots. Yet tobacco is legal? people MISUSED ephedrine and hurt themselves b/c Darwin was correct and they were morons, yet it's the products fault. SO i guess next time I take 56 of whatever the doc gives me for a cold, it must be his fault im sick and fvcking tired of this nation passing the blame...."its not ur fault ur fat" "its not ur fault u hurt yourself" "its not your fault u died" fvck you, it IS your fault, your a moron, Darwin was a genious, and you are doing the world a favor by wiping it of your seed /rant 1. Alright, I'll give you that.. they CAN be used safely, but often are NOT 2. BUT it still gives them an unfair advantage over other players that do not use steroids 3. Sports governing the nation? wtf is your point in this one? 4. Not sure about this one, since I didnt know that fact 5. That's just mean 6. Tobacco shouldnt be legal.. and if they misused it, its not the products fault.. that's what courts are for deciding Well.. certain genetic traits are passed down and it is nature's fault that we inherit genetic tendencies... the hurting yourself would be your fault.. and dying.. well if someone died of cancer or something untreatable disease.. how the fVck is it your fault? Alright, please stop insulting ppl.. its not nice.. oh and.. wtf is a "genious"? At least SPELL the word right... sheesh.. |
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Jun 30 2004, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jun 30 2004, 9:52 AM) 1. Alright, I'll give you that.. they CAN be used safely, but often are NOT 2. BUT it still gives them an unfair advantage over other players that do not use steroids 3. Sports governing the nation? wtf is your point in this one? 4. Not sure about this one, since I didnt know that fact 5. That's just mean 6. Tobacco shouldnt be legal.. and if they misused it, its not the products fault.. that's what courts are for deciding Well.. certain genetic traits are passed down and it is nature's fault that we inherit genetic tendencies... the hurting yourself would be your fault.. and dying.. well if someone died of cancer or something untreatable disease.. how the fVck is it your fault? Alright, please stop insulting ppl.. its not nice.. oh and.. wtf is a "genious"? At least SPELL the word right... sheesh.. 1. wow, so are 215853 over the counter and prescription drugs...i dont see those being banned 2. like I said, let the league regulate use, not the government 3. my point is the entire reason steroids are illegal for recreational bodybuilders or ANYONE for that matter is because of sports...read up on the anabolic steroid control act 4. its true, crapy as it is 5. hows that mean? calling any of what I mentioned steroids is ignorant 6. exactly, its not the products fault, my point exactly um, read more carefully please, the dying/injury was again in relation to steroid/supplement use. If they get hurt or die, 99.9% chance it's their fault why? people that manage to hurt themselves with supplements used them wrong. if you cant read a label or respect yourself enough to research what your taking enough to not hurt yourself, you deserve what you get. and I didn't know you were the spelling police. "or something untreatable disease" if you're gonna bitch about spelling, then watch your grammar |
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Jun 30 2004, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(bigpoppaproppy @ Jun 30 2004, 7:23 AM) ugh 1) steroids can be used safely, even though our wonderful government doesnt want you to think so(but they ALWAYS have noble reasons for laws and are ALWAYS right 2) STEROIDS ARE NOT A MAGICAL PILL!!! you can't shoot heart...you can't swallowa pill full of skill.....the ONLY thing steroids do is increase protein synthesis....eg: allow the body to synthesize more protein quicker....athletes on steroids have to work HARDER on their diet. if it is not perfect, the steroids wont work. simple as that. 3) the anabolic steroid control act, which made steroids illegal, was passed BECAUSE of athletics. there is NOT ONE mention of health in the bill, but simply a bill about fair play in the olympics and pro sports. SInce when does sports govern the nation 4) why the hell are steroids classified with heroin and cocaine, and not in the lesser 2 categories of controlled substances??? I forgot, because someone goes to the gym and wants to be accelerate gains, they MUST be as bad as someone dealin crack to kids 5) the first person who mentions protein powder/creatine/pro-hormones/ephedrine/glutamine/any other nutritional supplement as a steroid deserves to be hit by a bus 6) fudge this government and its bullshit laws....they ban ephedrine, andro and pro-hormones without proving shit, yet smoking and alcohol are perfectly legal. even though all these products HAD warning labels, theyre illegal to protect fvcking idiots. Yet tobacco is legal? people MISUSED ephedrine and hurt themselves b/c Darwin was correct and they were morons, yet it's the products fault. SO i guess next time I take 56 of whatever the doc gives me for a cold, it must be his fault im sick and fvcking tired of this nation passing the blame...."its not ur fault ur fat" "its not ur fault u hurt yourself" "its not your fault u died" fvck you, it IS your fault, your a moron, Darwin was a genious, and you are doing the world a favor by wiping it of your seed /rant |
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Jun 30 2004, 05:16 PM
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they make you grow man boobs and make girl grow chest hair and stuff like that
thats just nasty |
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Jun 30 2004, 05:19 PM
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they r juss hurting sports. lots of athletes r taking them so they have advantages ova non-steroid users.
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Jun 30 2004, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(Mr. Psychotic @ Jun 30 2004, 5:16 PM) they make you grow man boobs and make girl grow chest hair and stuff like that thats just nasty yeah if you're ignorant and dont know what you're doing its called "post cycle anti-aromitizers" cycle properly and run some nolva post cycle for a few weeks and you're fine |
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Jun 30 2004, 05:33 PM
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paper I wrote as a final paper for a class last semester...professor gave me a 95%
Legalizing The Juice I believe steroids should be legal to possess and use. Steroids, like many other substances, have been unfairly given a bad rap by the government because of undereducated sources, mal-informed studies, and other reasons. When the topic of steroids is brought up during discussion, the most common conception is of a big muscular freak with veins everywhere, a receding hairline and shrunken reproductive parts. However, the truth is that steroids, when used properly, are a safe tool in the handbag of a lifter. They are not a magic drug, automatic win or unfair advantage. They are simply a hormone that happens to be beneficial to lifters. Steroids are a hormone that only becomes dangerous when abused. Comically enough, health risks were not even one of the main reasons discussed when steroids were banned. Steroids work in quite a simple way. Steroids increase the rate of protein synthesis in the body, which is basically how muscle is built. This is one reason they are not simply magic, but rather just an effective supplement. They take a current body process and speed it up, helping to achieve quicker muscular hypertrophy and shorter recovery times between workouts. However, in order to put this to use, the user must drastically increase their protein and overall caloric intake, and often must structure their diets much stricter than a natural athlete. Steroids, like most supplements, work at their best and safest levels when cycled properly. By cycling properly, and avoiding extreme doses when on, a subject can avoid the two main causes of negative health effects. More often than not negative health side effects come as a result of repeated, dangerously high doses. Tom Prince, an IFBB professional bodybuilder, recently underwent a kidney operation at the age of 34. In an article on Prince from this month’s Flex Magazine, Greg Merritt states, “Prince’s kidneys failed…primarily because of the painkillers and bodybuilding drugs he took in large doses for many years” (Flex Magazine 91). The blame for Prince’s kidney failure was not placed simply on the fact he took steroids, or the steroids themselves. Rather, the blame was to place on the numerous cycles of ever-increasing doses he was taking. Prince himself admits “I definitely could’ve taken a whole lot less over the years” (Flex Magazine 93). In a 1996 study, researches found that when anabolic steroids were administered at 600 milligrams per week for ten weeks(close to six times natural replacement dose) virtually no side effects were observed. As the studies show, side effects although possible, are typically minimal with responsible use. This is why it is recommended to anyone planning to use to have at least 1-2 years of intensive study of steroids down before using. This helps to ensure that those who adhere are amply knowledged to safely cycle. By educating yourself on what you will be using, you can run a responsible cycle with no more side effects than you would get normally with any medication. Simply classifying steroids as an illegal substance does little to control their distribution and use. Steroids were officially made illegal with the passing of the Federal Anabolic Control Act on March 1, 1991. According to the American College of Sports Medicine’s official statement on steroids, “Since 1991 steroid use by males has been stable.” With 1991 also being the year the steroid ban went into effect, this shows that illegality has done nothing to curb use. When a law put in place 13 years ago whose purpose is to stop use has done nothing to lower use, you must question the effectiveness and necessity of the law. Many opponents of the law are quick to point out failures of other government laws such as prohibition and drug laws. According to most, energy would be better spent in education on the subject. Instead, the passing of the law has pushed the steroid supply into the black market, which creates an uncertainty over who is buying and at what quality. Instead of having steroids be legally available only to responsible adults through and in accordance with regular testing and advising of their doctor, they instead reside on the black market, available to teens everywhere. Summarizing, the control act has pushed steroids underground to a booming black market, made the practice less safe and more available to teens, and has done nothing to slow down use by adults. So now we have regular, non-criminal citizens hastily buying steroids overseas on the black market, using dirty and tainted steroids improperly, and being jailed alongside crack dealers. Also, it hampers the attempts of people in medical need to obtain them. Hormone replacement has been shown to be an effective treatment for the elderly. However, in fear of the Control Act, many physicians find it difficult to prescribe steroids to needy elderly patients in fear of violating the act. Also, there is a large economic loss to the nation. According to one website, and verified by other sources, “heavy demand has generated a black market with estimated sales of up to $400 million a year!” (www.steroids.com). Like with many things, the media has been used like the powerful tool it is to negatively influence public opinion on steroids. As Rick Collins states in his article from Muscular Development, “The mainstream media have thoroughly vilified these hormones for several decades. The use by mature adults of any amount of anabolic hormones to enhance physical appearance is invariably labeled anabolic steroid "abuse" and, consequently, the average American lumps the athletic steroid user into the same depraved category as the heroin or cocaine user.” The media has widely overblown the reported side effects as well. They have touted stories from unfounded research and anecdotal claims, while ignoring the other side of the issue. Even at the time of the banning, the media (and courts) chose to ignore input from numerous important sources. “Many witnesses who testified at the hearings, including medical professionals and representatives of…the FDA, DEA and the National Institute on Drug Abuse-recommended against the proposed amendment…Even the American Medical Association repeatedly and vehemently opposed it…” says Rick Collins, a leading authority on steroids in America. Steroids are a natural hormone whose benefit has been put to use by many athletes and non-athletes alike. The athlete gets no special treatment, no increased skill and no magic fix to their game. They simply get an increased rate of protein synthesis and a larger grocery bill. Steroids are a supplement, a simple tool. Like any other product on the market today, they are safe when used properly, dangerous when abused. To single them out against some government agencies wishes, and without a full understanding, is unfair and downright harmful. Teen use is up, adult use is the same, product quality has decreased, education and research have worsened, and needy elderly patients now cannot get what they need. Time and time again the government has banned substances because of public perception rather than scientific proof, and steroids are just another casualty in this battle. Works Cited: American College of Sports Medicine. Official Statement on Steroids. <www.acsm.org> 20 April 2004. Collins, Rick. Esq. The Anabolic Steroid Control Act: the Wrong Prescription. Muscular Development. April 2002. Collins, Rick. Esq. Legal Muscle: Anabolics in America. Legal Muscle Publishing. East Meadow, NY. 2002. S. Bhasin, T.W. Storer, N. Berman, et al.., The Effects of Supraphysiologic Doses of Testosterone on Muscle Size and Strength in Normal Men. New England Journal of Medicine. 4 July 1996. 1-7. Steroids dot com. <www.steroids.com> 20 Apr. 2004. Steroid Information dot com. <www.steroidinformation.com> 15 Apr. 200 |
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Jul 1 2004, 01:21 AM
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Wow... bleh.. I dont have the time to read all that though.. x.x
Instead of having us read the entire thing, could you just pull out main points from it? Thanks. |
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Jul 1 2004, 04:53 PM
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god damnit, one of my online friends got busted bigtime for steroids
the ONLY reason he's facing felony charges now and having his life ruined is because the government wanted fair play in sports thats why sports have their own rules..ARGH http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=..._id=73829&rfi=6 |
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