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 Apr 14 2009, 07:14 PM
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Tung, he's this dude who seemingly has no faults and knows everything you're doing... even when you're sitting alone in room and typing on the computer.
If he wasn't celestial, he'd probably look like this: http://www.karlklockars.com/wp-content/upl...ansen020209.jpg |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 12:51 PM)  Exactly. That's the only natural reason for homosexuality. Population control. And this is backed up by hundreds of studies done with all types of animals in the Animal Kingdom.  So uhh...why does God hate gays again? |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:25 PM
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 I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
QUOTE(BOSS @ Apr 14 2009, 07:23 PM) So uhh...why does God hate gays again? because
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Apr 14 2009, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(BOSS @ Apr 14 2009, 08:23 PM) So uhh...why does God hate gays again? God dislikes homosexuals because of the adultery they commit. The worse form of adultery
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Apr 14 2009, 07:31 PM
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 ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
Who determines what is good and bad types of adultery?
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Apr 14 2009, 07:32 PM
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The worse form of adultery is one who sleeps with the same sex. As man was made for woman and woman for man. Just like your father was meant for your mother and your mother for your father when they married.
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Apr 14 2009, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 07:29 PM) God dislikes homosexuals because of the adultery they commit. The worse form of adultery God doesnt dislike anyone. He doesnt approve of what they o but he is willing to forgive them. |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 05:32 PM) The worse form of adultery is one who sleeps with the same sex. As man was made for woman and woman for man. Just like your father was meant for your mother and your mother for your father when they married. You're stupid. I asked WHO WHO WHO WHO determines it. I never asked for your opinion. |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Apr 14 2009, 08:33 PM) God doesnt dislike anyone. He doesnt approve of what they o but he is willing to forgive them. If they stop committing the same sin... sure. If they keep committing the same sin, no. They're done. QUOTE(Tung @ Apr 14 2009, 08:34 PM) You're stupid. I asked WHO WHO WHO WHO determines it. I never asked for your opinion. You know Tung.. I can only imagine that outside of your little monitor, you don't have any friends. Cuz I tell ya what, I would have knocked you out already, friend or not. I gave you your answer. That's the final answer. Read something other than pokemon. |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 05:37 PM) You know Tung.. I can only imagine that outside of your little monitor, you don't have any friends. Cuz I tell ya what, I would have knocked you out already, friend or not. I gave you your answer. That's the final answer. Read something other than pokemon. Yes, I have no friends.  You wouldn't be able to knock me out, because you couldn't even keep up with me fat ass.  You didn't give me my answer. I asked who determines it. You just simply repeated your opinion about what is bad type of adultery. That's your opinion of bad adultery. Not everyone thinks men on men sex is bad adultery. So in essence, you didn't answer my question. I wanna know who determines what is bad. Does 'God' determine that? Or do you?  Oh and you shouldn't be so quick to assume because I'm asian, I like Pokemon and Anime, especially when I just got attacked by brandon and rebecca for dissing anime earlier this morning. |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 05:29 PM) God dislikes homosexuals because of the adultery they commit. The worse form of adultery You just said God created them through the need of overpopulation prevention. So God created something he knows will commit adultery? |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:43 PM
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Who else... The Holy Books are the word of God. Lets not even use the Bible. You still have two other Holy Books with the same message.
There's two forms of adultery. One against your significant other and one against God. QUOTE(BOSS @ Apr 14 2009, 08:43 PM) You just said God created them through the need of overpopulation prevention. lol wut? Maybe I said that in a hypothetical way... non of the Abrahamic religions believe in such rubbish. |
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Apr 14 2009, 07:46 PM
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Yes, and we all know a bunch of books determines how we should live our life.
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Apr 14 2009, 07:46 PM
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Well the fact that gays exist would mean that God created them right
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Apr 14 2009, 07:47 PM
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wow i'm having so much deja vu right now
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Apr 14 2009, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(BOSS @ Apr 14 2009, 08:46 PM) Well the fact that gays exist would mean that God created them right Prove gays are born gay. QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Apr 14 2009, 08:47 PM) wow i'm having so much deja vu right now Same... the sad part is that they're tryin to use the gay argument to prove that God is mean 
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Apr 14 2009, 07:56 PM
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Well there are only two options. Either you are born gay or choose to be gay. So you think all gays chose to be gay right
QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 05:50 PM) Same... the sad part is that they're tryin to use the gay argument to prove that God is mean lolwut? God is above all human knowledge. All these human attributes don't apply to God. |
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Apr 14 2009, 08:01 PM
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If you can't prove that gays are born gay... then there's no other option. Temptations can become overwhelmingly powerful.
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Apr 14 2009, 08:02 PM
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i don't think you can "choose" to be anything under an omniscient god anyway. you can't make choices under a god who knows everything since you can't choose to do anything other than what he already knows you'll do. if you were ever to make a choice that god didn't know the answer to beforehand then god wouldn't know everything.
so i don't really think gay people should worry too much about it because what else could they have done? it's not like it was any big surprise to god that that they are gay. NO WORRIES HOMOSEXUALS! |
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Apr 14 2009, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 06:01 PM) If you can't prove that gays are born gay... then there's no other option. Nice fallacy. Ill hit you with one too. Prove that gays are born gay. |
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Apr 14 2009, 08:05 PM
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Once again you're stupid. Stop pulling the "prove they were born" card. I could say the same and reverse it and say "prove that gays AREN'T born gay". It'll go in circles, so it's pretty pretty to toss that card around.
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Apr 14 2009, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Apr 14 2009, 09:02 PM) i don't think you can "choose" to be anything under an omniscient god anyway. you can't make choices under a god who knows everything since you can't choose to do anything other than what he already knows you'll do. if you were ever to make a choice that god didn't know the answer to beforehand then god wouldn't know everything. so i don't really think gay people should worry too much about it because what else could they have done? it's not like it was any big surprise to god that that they are gay. NO WORRIES HOMOSEXUALS! Ah the free will argument. Everyone in fact does have freewill, just because God knows every possible move you can make doesn't mean you don't have freewill. God isn't forcing you to do anything.. but God does know every possible thing you'll do. Including, knowing that you'll go to hell and heaven, but it is you who makes the choices in your life. QUOTE(BOSS @ Apr 14 2009, 09:04 PM) Nice fallacy. Ill hit you with one too. Prove that gays are born gay. Then don't bring gays into this argument. This thread had nothing to do with gays, yet you're getting emotional because God finds homosexuality distasteful and disrespectful. QUOTE(Tung @ Apr 14 2009, 09:05 PM) Once again you're stupid. Stop pulling the "prove they were born" card. I could say the same and reverse it and say "prove that gays AREN'T born gay". It'll go in circles, so it's pretty pretty to toss that card around. Meh.. get over it. |
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Apr 14 2009, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 08:12 PM) Ah the free will argument. Everyone in fact does have freewill, just because God knows every possible move you can make doesn't mean you don't have freewill. God isn't forcing you to do anything.. but God does know every possible thing you'll do. Including, knowing that you'll go to hell and heaven, but it is you who makes the choices in your life. no, you have no choice. you can read what you said and know you have no choice. if god knows before you're even born that you will go to hell, then you will go to hell. if he doesn't know which one you'll go to, he isn't omniscient, period. |
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Apr 14 2009, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Apr 14 2009, 06:12 PM) Then don't bring gays into this argument. This thread had nothing to do with gays, yet you're getting emotional because God finds homosexuality distasteful and disrespectful. Im kind of waiting for you to prove that gays are born gay. Oh wait, you can't so theres obviously no other option. |
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Apr 14 2009, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Apr 14 2009, 09:19 PM) no, you have no choice. you can read what you said and know you have no choice. if god knows before you're even born that you will go to hell, then you will go to hell. if he doesn't know which one you'll go to, he isn't omniscient, period. You will go to hell if you make all the wrong choice... Every little move we make, has already been known to God... the scenerios would be: It is Sunday night and you gotta go to work Monday: A) You go to sleep at 3AM and you wake up late for work, God already knew this scenerio B) You go to sleep at 11PM and you wake up on time for work, God already knew this scenerio Every little action you make and every little thought you make has already been known to God. It's a pattern known to God even before your family tree was created until what it is today. It's like if you were given these numbers: 1 3 5 7 8 5 0 10 22 Just by lookin at it, you know every single answer to every single math equation ever known to man. God already knows A "AND" B it's up to you to choose which one... no matter what he already knows the answer for both... He knows what's gonna happen when you choose A AND He already knows what's gonna happen if you choose B. God already knows why you're going to heaven AND going to hell. It is your freewill to choose your path. Either way God knows every single reason why you belong in heaven depending the path you choose AND God knows every single reason why you belong in hell depending the path you choose. God already set your millions and trillions etc.. of different endings... It's up to you to pick which way you want to end it. Your subconcsious chooses your path, your concsious doesn't know your path cuz you're only living your days. Every little second in time that you make an action effects your paths you choose. If you can't understand this, then there's no hope and we should just discontinue the talks of free will. |
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