Windows 7, Is the best Microshit Windows I\'ve used. Options

[illriginal]

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Windows 7 definitely feels light and has plenty of Eyecandy

Video Of my desktop:

[Maccabee]

Does that bar at the bottom come with it or did you download it online?

[illriginal]

build 7000?

Is there a better build? o.O;

[illriginal]

Ah I see build 7057 is better... BRB downloading it!

[illriginal]

Ah I see build 7057 is better... BRB downloading it!

[six]

lol before you dl 7057, google 7068 :]

7070 might be the final rc1 build. it's gettin closer 'n closer to rtm and oem .

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Tampon just W7 noob'd twice.

[illriginal]

lol before you dl 7057, google 7068 :]

7070 might be the final rc1 build. it's gettin closer 'n closer to rtm and oem .

Nice, thanks for the info... there's a few programs (that are in fact 64bit) that won't install onto Windows 7. The primary one being Nvidia's, "ntune". I would like to install that.. Hopefully the later builds will recognize or be compatible with that specific program. I didn't know that the builds made a difference as so long you get all updates. But tonight I'll see where I can find the 7068 build, thanks again six!

[Maccabee]

Do you now prefer windows 7 to linux?

[illriginal]

No. LOL

Linux is infinitely stable. And way more secure... and plus it's really really light. For example, Windows 7 is about 3GB in size before it's extracted onto a HDD. While Ubuntu 8.10 is right below 700mb. Not only that.. the one thing that drives me nuts about Vista and Long Horn/7 is that you have to go from A-Z just to get to C, if that makes any sense. The whole layout of their navigation (ei. Start Menu) is horrible.

OS' are examined by how many clicks it takes to get around any part of the partition.. if there's too many clicks just to get around, it's rated negatively.

In this case, Vista and 7 gets an F. Otherwise everything else is great.


Also Windows 7 has nothing on KDE 4.2 which is pretty much a 3D desktop. Hell even Sun's Java Solaris is getting into the scene of 3D desktop for home use.

[Maccabee]

OpenSUSE is 4Gb if you get the dvd. Im fine with how big it is cause its still light. But it has more features and whatnot. Im trying to decide between opensuse and ubuntu.

Thats why vista scores a z.

Even xp gets an F.

Most linux distros out of the box get a c and then after customization its an A. haha

[illriginal]

Good thing I never said a damn thing about OpenSUSE. Amirite?

[Maccabee]

lol. I like suse. If you have such a powerful computer why do you care so much about how light an os is?

[illriginal]

Why do you think MAC outperforms Windows?

[Maccabee]

Because its lighter...

lol.

But opensuse accomplishes what everyone wants in a os. Its light and it is full of features.

Its not all about how light it is cause opensuse is way faster than ubuntu even though its bigger.

[illriginal]

Because its lighter...

lol.

But opensuse accomplishes what everyone wants in a os. Its light and it is full of features.

Its not all about how light it is cause opensuse is way faster than ubuntu even though its bigger.

Cool beans.

[Jghelfi]

hmm i see how it has the DOCK like macs do.. it looks cool!

[cbdesigncompetit...]

hmm i see how it has the DOCK like macs do.. it looks cool!

It doesn't. That's still an addon. Though, the taskbar is pretty intuitive.

[fameONE]

Is it worth abandoning Linux?

[illriginal]

lol no. Only because Linux is infinitely stable and secure. Windows now has eye candy, but it cannot be manipulated as well as you can in Linux. Windows typically needs like 10 services or processes to be active in order for Windows to run.

[mipadi]

Windows typically needs like 10 services or processes to be active in order for Windows to run.

Linux requires quite a few processes, too:

CODE

brki164-lnx-26 mdippery $ ps ax
PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
1 ? Ss 0:10 init [5]
2 ? S< 0:00 [migration/0]
3 ? SN 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
4 ? S< 0:00 [watchdog/0]
5 ? S< 0:01 [events/0]
6 ? S< 0:00 [khelper]
7 ? S< 0:00 [kthread]
10 ? S< 0:23 [kblockd/0]
11 ? S< 0:00 [kacpid]
85 ? S< 0:00 [cqueue/0]
88 ? S< 0:00 [khubd]
90 ? S< 0:00 [kseriod]
152 ? S< 3:55 [kswapd0]
153 ? S< 0:00 [aio/0]
312 ? S< 0:00 [kpsmoused]
335 ? S< 0:00 [ata/0]
336 ? S< 0:00 [ata_aux]
339 ? S< 0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
340 ? S< 0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
351 ? S< 0:00 [ksnapd]
354 ? S< 1:54 [kjournald]
387 ? S< 0:00 [kauditd]
421 ? S<s 0:01 /sbin/udevd -d
3676 ? S 0:02 [pdflush]
3994 ? S< 0:00 [kmpathd/0]
4020 ? S< 0:00 [kjournald]
4619 ? Ss 0:01 /sbin/dhclient -1 -q -lf /var/lib/dhclient/dhclient-e
4695 ? S<sl 0:01 auditd
4697 ? S<sl 0:00 /sbin/audispd
4713 ? Ss 0:01 /usr/sbin/restorecond
4724 ? Ss 0:03 syslogd -m 0
4727 ? Ss 0:00 klogd -x
4753 ? Ss 0:23 mcstransd
4766 ? Ss 0:00 portmap
4779 ? Ssl 0:09 /usr/bin/python -E /usr/sbin/setroubleshootd
4800 ? Ss 0:00 rpc.statd
4836 ? Ss 0:01 rpc.idmapd
4855 ? Ssl 1:08 dbus-daemon --system
4867 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/hcid
4893 ? S< 0:00 [krfcommd]
4934 ? Ssl 0:30 pcscd
5056 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/hidd --server
5075 ? Ssl 0:04 automount
5094 ? Ssl 0:48 /usr/sbin/nscd
5106 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid
5117 ? Ss 0:00 ./hpiod
5128 ? S 0:00 python ./hpssd.py
5167 ? Ss 0:00 xinetd -stayalive -pidfile /var/run/xinetd.pid
5181 ? SLs 0:00 ntpd -u ntp:ntp -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -g
5202 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: accepting connections
5210 ? Ss 0:00 sendmail: Queue runner@01:00:00 for /var/spool/client
5222 ? Ss 0:00 gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t exps2
5226 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate -
5233 ? Ss 0:00 crond
5291 ? Ss 0:11 xfs -droppriv -daemon
5312 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
5326 ? Sl 0:06 /usr/local/tripwire/tfs/bin/twagent
5365 ? Ss 0:01 rhnsd --interval 120
5387 ? Ss 7:29 avahi-daemon: running [brki164-lnx-26.local]
5388 ? Ss 0:00 avahi-daemon: chroot helper
5389 ? SN 6:03 /usr/bin/python -tt /usr/sbin/yum-updatesd
5391 ? SN 0:02 /usr/libexec/gam_server
5402 ? Ss 0:15 hald
5403 ? S 0:00 hald-runner
5410 ? S 0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/a
5412 ? S 0:02 hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event1
5425 ? S 19:58 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hda
5507 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/smartd -q never
5512 tty1 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1
5513 tty2 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2
5514 tty3 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3
5515 tty4 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4
5536 tty5 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5
5537 tty6 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6
9515 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate -
11202 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate -
16221 ? Ss 0:22 cupsd
16222 ? S 2:40 cups-polld unixprint.eg.bucknell.edu 631 120 631
16401 ? S 0:01 [pdflush]
17923 ? S< 0:00 [rpciod/0]
17924 ? S 0:00 [lockd]
17925 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-session
17959 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /bin/sh -c exec -l /bin/bash -c "/
18008 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /etc/X11/xin
18009 ? Ssl 0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 4 --print-address
18016 ? S 0:01 /usr/libexec/gconfd-2 5
18019 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon
18021 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon
18026 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gam_server
18038 ? Ss 0:06 metacity --sm-client-id=default1
18042 ? Ss 0:01 gnome-panel --sm-client-id default2
18044 ? Ss 0:01 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default3
18047 ? Ss 0:00 gnome-volume-manager --sm-client-id default5
18049 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate -
18051 ? Ss 0:00 eggcups --sm-client-id default4
18056 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gnome-vfs-daemon
18064 ? Ss 0:00 bt-applet --sm-disable
18067 ? Ss 0:00 nm-applet --sm-disable
18073 ? Ss 0:00 pam-panel-icon --sm-client-id default0
18074 ? Sl 0:00 ./escd --key_Inserted="/usr/bin/esc" --on_Signal="/us
18078 ? S 0:00 /sbin/pam_timestamp_check -d root
18084 ? Ss 0:00 gnome-power-manager
18094 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/mapping-daemon
18105 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/wnck-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GN
18107 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/clock-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:G
18109 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/notification-area-applet --oaf-activate-
18111 ? S 0:00 /usr/libexec/gweather-applet-2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAF
18117 ? S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/run-mozilla.sh /usr/l
18131 ? Sl 4:27 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/firefox
18146 ? Ss 0:00 gnome-screensaver
19304 ? Sl 0:01 gnome-terminal --geometry 80x55
19306 ? S 0:00 gnome-pty-helper
19307 pts/1 Ss 0:00 bash
19405 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
19416 pts/1 R+ 0:00 ps ax
25598 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate -
25935 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon
25985 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm-binary -nodaemon
25987 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/libexec/gdm-rh-security-token-helper
25992 tty8 SLs+ 1:11 /usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth
27296 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate -
32324 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/libexec/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate -

(So okay, that's not immediately after startup...but a typical Linux-based OS requires quite a few processes to boot, and X requires quite a few processes to do its magic, too. And it's fair to include X Windows' processes, since Windows is running an window server, too. Even if you don't count X stuff, anything with a PID equal to or less than 421 in that list are processes that are basically required for the machine to do anything useful.)

[illriginal]

Holy shit why do you have soooooooooooo many?!?!?!?

[mipadi]

Holy shit why do you have soooooooooooo many?!?!?!?

Why wouldn't I? This is fairly typical. Most of these processes are necessary, such as init, kernel processes (anything with a "k" in front of it is a kernel process), the system logger, anything for handling networking connections, the DHCP client process, anything for handling hardware interrupts (which includes the IRQ daemon, the daemon for checking for mouse/keyboard activity, etc.), the processes for swapping out memory... Computers do complicated shit, and most kernels -- including Linux -- spin this shit off into smaller processes.

[illriginal]

I dunno, brah... I'm at work right now so I can't check but I'm pretty sure I only have like.. 6 processes running without opening anything.

Dunno what to tell ya.


You have more processes current than my computer at work... lol wtf

That's not common at all.. at all, at all!

[mipadi]

I dunno, brah... I'm at work right now so I can't check but I'm pretty sure I only have like.. 6 processes running without opening anything.

Dunno what to tell ya.
You have more processes current than my computer at work... lol wtf

That's not common at all.. at all, at all!

I really doubt that on a Linux system, you only have 6 processes running -- especially once you fire up X Windows.