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Favorite linux distro, version 3 i think
mipadi
post Mar 24 2009, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 24 2009, 07:57 PM) *
Huh? You can customize linux? You mean like the internal coding.

Sure. The source code for the Linux kernel is freely available, as is the source code to most Linux-compatible software, so in theory you can modify it. Doing so, of course, requires extensive programming expertise; the Linux kernel in particular is quite complex.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 24 2009, 08:11 PM) *
I realize you can customize everything about how it looks.


You can customize pretty much everything of everything in Linux. Linux is like a uhm... canvas and you manipulate everything on that canvas to do whatever it is you want it to do. So as long as you have the knowledge, with linux, anything is possible... it just takes a lot of dedication and patience.

If you were a Unix master... you can literally create a linux distro.. you can literally break Ubuntu down and rebuild it completely the way you want it.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 07:58 PM
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Whats *nix? Or unix? I here a bit about it.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 24 2009, 08:58 PM) *
Whats *nix? Or unix? I here a bit about it.


Unix is compared to DOS commmand. lol... That's the core of Linux.


Unix = no to barely any GUI

Linux = GUI to eye candy
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 24 2009, 09:01 PM) *
Unix = no to barely any GUI

Mac OS X is a Unix, and has an extensive GUI. wink.gif
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 08:39 PM
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We sorta veered off subject. What your favorite distro?

Thomas - ubuntu and debian

Uronacid - Ubuntu

Me - Id like to say just one but Im gonna say Linux Mint for first and mandriva/opensuse tied for second.

mandriva and open suse seem very similiar to me. I have yet to try openSUSE though

Once I can try open suse and play with mint for a few days ill be able to make my conclusion between pretty much all the distro that are out there and try and stick with it. Gentoo is also on my trying list.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 09:22 PM
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Mandriva and openSUSE are my favorites.

I haven't tried Linux Mint yet, but I'm going to soon. That and Red Hat. I'd like to try it.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 09:42 PM
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Too bad you have to pay for red hat. I dont even know where to go to buy it.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 09:51 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/Red-Hat-Linux-9-0-Pe...l/dp/B00008QODZ
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 10:08 PM
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If you buy it directly from them you have to pay per month:
https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/desktop/

Cant you buy directly from them but just get a disc? When i can I like buying direct. not from amazon or something.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 10:23 PM
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I dont understand what the difference is between 64 and 32 computers? I understand 64 bit computers have the ability to run 64bit os's and programs but besides that whats the point/ Is it any better or faster?
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 24 2009, 11:23 PM) *
I dont understand what the difference is between 64 and 32 computers? I understand 64 bit computers have the ability to run 64bit os's and programs but besides that whats the point/ Is it any better or faster?


64bit can read a max, of 32GB of ram. If I'm not mistaken.

A friend of mine has a Slackware server and his motherboard allows him to have up to 32GB of ram. He has a Quad Core cpu which is 64bit as well.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 24 2009, 11:23 PM) *
I dont understand what the difference is between 64 and 32 computers? I understand 64 bit computers have the ability to run 64bit os's and programs but besides that whats the point/ Is it any better or faster?

It has to do with the architecture of a processor.

Every processor has a "word size", which is the maximum size of data that can be handled by the processor at once. In other words, the processor moves data around in word-sized chunks. So a 32-bit processor can deal with 32 bits at a time, whereas a 64-bit processor can deal with 64 bits at a time.

Particularly this affects memory operations. In a processor, every slice of memory must be "addressable", i.e., there has to be a way to represent each slice as a number in the processor. 32-bit processors, therefore, can address up to 2^32 slots of memory, whereas a 64-bit processor can address up to 2^64 slots.
 
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post Mar 24 2009, 11:44 PM
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So how much memory can a 32bit processor handle? 8 if im not mistaken.
So out of these three processors which would be best?

a 2.8ghz qaud core processor 32 bit

a 3.2 ghz dual core processor 32 bit

or a 2.5 ghz dual core processor 64 bit

all have their perks. I dont think i have a need for a 64 bit but the decision between more ghz and extra core's or whatever seems like a hard decision.
 
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post Mar 25 2009, 12:45 AM
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QUOTE(mipadi @ Mar 25 2009, 12:38 AM) *
It has to do with the architecture of a processor.

Every processor has a "word size", which is the maximum size of data that can be handled by the processor at once. In other words, the processor moves data around in word-sized chunks. So a 32-bit processor can deal with 32 bits at a time, whereas a 64-bit processor can deal with 64 bits at a time.

Particularly this affects memory operations. In a processor, every slice of memory must be "addressable", i.e., there has to be a way to represent each slice as a number in the processor. 32-bit processors, therefore, can address up to 2^32 slots of memory, whereas a 64-bit processor can address up to 2^64 slots.


This ^ wink.gif


QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 25 2009, 12:44 AM) *
So how much memory can a 32bit processor handle? 8 if im not mistaken.

32bit can only handle roughly 3.3gb of ram.


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So out of these three processors which would be best?

a 2.8ghz qaud core processor 32 bit

a 3.2 ghz dual core processor 32 bit

or a 2.5 ghz dual core processor 64 bit

Why not just get a 3.0ghz 64-bit processor?

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all have their perks. I dont think i have a need for a 64 bit but the decision between more ghz and extra core's or whatever seems like a hard decision.


Hm... you can get a 3.0ghz Dual Core processor, that's 64bit.
 
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post Mar 25 2009, 05:21 AM
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But if we arent talking about 64 bit which of the two is better?
 
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post Mar 25 2009, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 25 2009, 06:21 AM) *
But if we arent talking about 64 bit which of the two is better?


Eh... higher speed + cache size is what matters. But seriously, no one in their right mind would want to purchase a primitive 32bit processor. That's just... unheard of o.O;
 
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post Mar 25 2009, 10:13 AM
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Are most processors from new egg 64 bit? I think onl amd processors can be.
 
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post Mar 25 2009, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 25 2009, 11:13 AM) *
Are most processors from new egg 64 bit? I think onl amd processors can be.


lol....
 
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post Mar 25 2009, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(illmortal @ Mar 25 2009, 04:59 PM) *
lol....


Are noobs that funny?
 
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post Mar 25 2009, 10:15 PM
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Are noobs that funny?


Intel makes 64 bit processors.
 
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post Mar 26 2009, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(jcp @ Mar 25 2009, 06:02 PM) *
Are noobs that funny?


Intel makes 64-bit processors. They just don't advertise them as such.
 
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post Mar 26 2009, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(9001 @ Mar 24 2009, 09:22 PM) *
Mandriva and openSUSE are my favorites.

I haven't tried Linux Mint yet, but I'm going to soon. That and Red Hat. I'd like to try it.


hmmm...one thing I dont really like about Mandriva and openSUSE is that they use KDE.

I mean I like KDE better especially when it looks good like it does in mandriva and openSUSE and how they both have many graphical thingies and how fast they are but I think its harder to customize how they look and stuff.
But I think if I started using linux I wouldnt really care about the customizing and stuff.


Also I was looking on the openSUSE website and I noticed that if you buy the dvd and have it shipped which costs 60 bucks you get all these features:

With this purchase, you get:

* 90-Day Installation Support (phone or e-mail).. not available from the download site
* Printed Start-up Manual
* Dual Layer DVD

Office Software

* OpenOffice.org 3.0.3
* Desktop search Beagle 0.3.8
* Tasque 0.1.7
* Catalogue database: Tellico 1.3.4
* Personal information manager: Evolution 2.24.1, Kontact 4.1.2
* Wine 1.1.6

Internet and E-mail

* Voice over IP (VoIP): ekiga 3.0.0 Linphone 2.1.1, Twinkle 1.3.2
* NetworkManager 0.7
* Peer to peer clients Bittorrent, Ktorrent and Monsoon
* Web browser: Firefox 3.0.3, Konqueror 4.1.3, SeaMonkey 1.1.12
* E-mail: Evolution 2.24.1, Kontact 4.1.2, Thunderbird 2.0.0.17
* Instant Messaging: Kopete 4.1.3, Pidgin 2.5.1, Empathy 2.24.1

Multimedia

* Banshee Music management 1.3.2, AmaroK 2.0
* Music and video player: kaffeine 0.8.7
* PulseAudio 0.9.12
* Audacity 1.3.5
* CD/DVD burner: k3b 1.0.5
* Gnash 0.8.4

Graphics

* Image manipulation program: GIMP 2.6.1
* Vector illustration: Inkscape 0.46
* Photo management: F-spot 0.5.0.3, gwenview 1.4.2, dikigkam 0.9.4S

Desktop Environments

* GNOME 2.24.1
* KDE 3.5.10
* KDE 4.1.3
* Xfce 4.4.2
* 3D desktop using Compiz Fusion
* Security
* Finger print recognition
* Intrusion prevention: AppArmor 2.3.1
* SELinux basic enablement
* SUSE Firewall
* Virus scanner: AntiVir 2.1.10.15
* Spam filter: SpamAssasin 3.2.5

Development Tools

* gtk+ 2.14.4
* Python 2.6.0

But I couldnt find a list of features that come with the DVD Iso you download for free off their site. Can anyone find it? Is it exactly the same?
 

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