Tip Amount Options

[saintsaens]

^i'm not 100% sure but i think that applies to parties with like 5 or more people.

I think so, too

[Tung]

don't some places add in an automatic tip now?

yeah, if it's either over a certain amount of dollars, or if there's like 6 or more people i believe?

[Insurmountable]

^typically its if you have a party of 8 or more and I believe they do 18%.

[Tung]

Oh yes it's 8 people, my fault. But I knew it was a certain amount of people though.

That's why sometimes when we go in large groups, we split up so we can avoid the automatic tip billed. We just get two close tables, but two separate bills.

[smash]

^cheater

[Insurmountable]

Oh yes it's 8 people, my fault. But I knew it was a certain amount of people though.

That's why sometimes when we go in large groups, we split up so we can avoid the automatic tip billed. We just get two close tables, but two separate bills.

hehe I do that, I typically start tips at 15% but it can drop if they are shitty.

I remember I left a chick a dollar in pennies scattered all over the table, she pissed me off.

[T00000]

I've worked as a hostess once and even though we get an hourly pay, I would have rather been a server. No matter how much you complain about it, servers at a good restaurant usually take home much more than minimum wage.

Funny you should say this, because when I was a hostess I always thought that too. I REALLY wanted to be a server, because of all the money they were making. It always confused me why servers complained so much, because they were making more money than I was. It's amazing how drastically my position on this subject has changed since then.

Well, yeah, each job has its ups and downs. The customer isn't responsible for providing the server's income so stop trying to guilt trip the rest of us who don't work in a restaurant environment into doing so.

So who, exactly, pays the server's income? The restaurant? No... the people who come into the restaurant. Which means, YOU, ME, and everyone else. The benefits of having had worked in a restaurant environment is that you understand the importance of the whole tipping issue.

If you work as a server, then you do what it takes to get your tip. The customer is always right. If they want you to tell them the score of a game, go find out what it is and tell them instead of getting annoyed and having a bad attitude. If someone harasses you, put in a complaint. As a whole, most people aren't douches, so it sort of makes it hard to believe that your job as a server is really oh-so-hard.

Hell no! First of all, the customer is NOT always right. It's so funny how people always think this. I'm frequently a "customer" and I KNOW that I'm not always right. Only those with a sense of entitlement really truly believe in this mantra. So, a customer is RIGHT to flip out on their server because their steak, a well-done filet, is taking 30 minutes? No, the customer is WRONG because (1) any "foodie" will tell you that spending $30 on a steak and then cooking it well done is ruining your steak. You might as well have bought a $15 sirloin and called it a day. (2) AND if that person really does just want their steak cooked well done, it takes a lot longer to actually cook it. So, the customer is freaking out because we can't turn one of our entrees into an appetizer? But they're right somehow? The customer is RIGHT when they demand to know the score of a game that isn't even on TV, and they complain until a manager has to go into the back office and check it for them? Yes, it IS like babysitting people who are older than me and more accomplished than me. I bet if a customer asked me to change their diaper for them, you'd expect me to do that for them too. And for the most part, most people ARE douches when they go out to eat. If you serve, you'll figure this out pretty quickly. As a hostess, I generally enjoyed everyone that came into the restaurant and was perplexed when servers came up to me bitching at me for giving them that table. Well, now I know. People get really weird when they go out to eat, you wouldn't know, so don't tell me it's not that way. You are probably one of those people.

A lot of my friends in high school have jobs as waiters and they make much more than my hourly job right now. It's not an ideal job, but at least it's a job, so do what you need to do to make money. Is that really such a hard concept to grasp?

NO IT'S NOT A HARD CONCEPT TO GRASP. Is it such a hard concept to grasp that usually, at least where I've worked, servers do what they need to do to make money... and because the of the customer's ignorance on the proper tipping percentage, or because the customer wasn't able to get their way 100% of the time in the restaurant, OUR income is affected?? The reason why we get so upset is because when WE do our part, the customer sometimes doesn't. I would rather get paid as much as the hosts (even though our job is 100 times more difficult than theirs) than to deal with the extreme stress of catering to idiots all day in order to hopefully get a tip I deserve. It's not the money, it's the job, which is WHY I don't do it anymore but...

I go out to eat. Probably more often than you do. And I act appropriately when I go out to eat--I behave myself, act like an adult, and I tip correctly. If I get lazy service, they get a bad tip. If my server makes a little mistake that doesn't affect my dining experience too badly, I'll give them a normal tip. You don't have to listen to me, I'm not trying to "guilt trip" anyone. I'm not your mom, SHE should have taught you your manners, not me.

[batman]

NO IT'S NOT A HARD CONCEPT TO GRASP. Is it such a hard concept to grasp that usually, at least where I've worked, servers do what they need to do to make money... and because the of the customer's ignorance on the proper tipping percentage, or because the customer wasn't able to get their way 100% of the time in the restaurant, OUR income is affected?? The reason why we get so upset is because when WE do our part, the customer sometimes doesn't. I would rather get paid as much as the hosts (even though our job is 100 times more difficult than theirs) than to deal with the extreme stress of catering to idiots all day in order to hopefully get a tip I deserve. It's not the money, it's the job, which is WHY I don't do it anymore but...

I go out to eat. Probably more often than you do. And I act appropriately when I go out to eat--I behave myself, act like an adult, and I tip correctly. If I get lazy service, they get a bad tip. If my server makes a little mistake that doesn't affect my dining experience too badly, I'll give them a normal tip. You don't have to listen to me, I'm not trying to "guilt trip" anyone. I'm not your mom, SHE should have taught you your manners, not me.

First of all, I really don't appreciate the personal jabs, i.e. comments about what type of person I am and what type of person my mother was. My mom put herself through college by being a waitress. She worked everything from diners to classy restaurants with no prices on the menus, so believe me, I grew up knowing what good service is or isn't and I know all about proper tipping etiquette, tyvm.

I never said that I didn't tip. I'm saying that if I feel like I'm getting shitty service, no way in hell am I going to feel obligated to tip just because "aw, the poor waitress... she's got no other source of income!"

Hell no! First of all, the customer is NOT always right. It's so funny how people always think this. I'm frequently a "customer" and I KNOW that I'm not always right. Only those with a sense of entitlement really truly believe in this mantra. So, a customer is RIGHT to flip out on their server because their steak, a well-done filet, is taking 30 minutes? No, the customer is WRONG because (1) any "foodie" will tell you that spending $30 on a steak and then cooking it well done is ruining your steak. You might as well have bought a $15 sirloin and called it a day. (2) AND if that person really does just want their steak cooked well done, it takes a lot longer to actually cook it. So, the customer is freaking out because we can't turn one of our entrees into an appetizer? But they're right somehow? The customer is RIGHT when they demand to know the score of a game that isn't even on TV, and they complain until a manager has to go into the back office and check it for them? Yes, it IS like babysitting people who are older than me and more accomplished than me. I bet if a customer asked me to change their diaper for them, you'd expect me to do that for them too.

And let me rephrase myself. If you're working in customer-service and your income depends on how happy the customer is with their service, then f*ck yeah, the customer is always right. Now, if you've resigned yourself to the fact that the customer is a douche and a lost cause, feel free to give them shitty service; it's not like you're getting that tip anyways. But if you WANT to make money, the best way about it is to give them what they need, when they need it, and to keep them as happy as possible.

And for the most part, most people ARE douches when they go out to eat. If you serve, you'll figure this out pretty quickly. As a hostess, I generally enjoyed everyone that came into the restaurant and was perplexed when servers came up to me bitching at me for giving them that table. Well, now I know. People get really weird when they go out to eat, you wouldn't know, so don't tell me it's not that way. You are probably one of those people.

Please don't make assumptions. It really just makes an ass out of you and... well, mainly you.

Anyways, I'm done with this. It's mainly you going around thinking that people here are shitty people who don't tip when all we're trying to say is that we wont tip for shitty service.

I'm sorry that we're not all as "experienced" in restaurant service as you are. I don't speak for all of us, but most of us are probably out there doing something more productive with our lives.

[Tung]

[hypnotique]

Dammit you beat me to it.

[KilluhErick]

....hahahaha idk just get the deliverer person lol a tip

[T00000]

First of all, I really don't appreciate the personal jabs, i.e. comments about what type of person I am and what type of person my mother was. My mom put herself through college by being a waitress. She worked everything from diners to classy restaurants with no prices on the menus, so believe me, I grew up knowing what good service is or isn't and I know all about proper tipping etiquette, tyvm.

Oh no, you don't appreciate it?? That's really different; usually when I make personal jabs toward someone they enjoy it immensely. Also, I'll be the first to inform you that I never insulted your mother... no use jumping to conclusions and getting defensive. Oh and by the way, I'm really glad you told me she was a waitress 20 years ago. That gives your argument much more credibility--next time there's a debate about medicine I'll be sure to offer my two cents, because since my dad is a heart surgeon, I surely must know all about it.

I never said that I didn't tip. I'm saying that if I feel like I'm getting shitty service, no way in hell am I going to feel obligated to tip just because "aw, the poor waitress... she's got no other source of income!"

I never assumed you didn't tip. And I am starting to think you lack some reading comprehension skills... I never said you are obligated to tip because "aw, the poor waitress... she's got no other source of income!"... If you weren't always so dead-set on arguing with me (don't worry, I have noticed) you wouldn't being making an ass out of yourself by making assumptions regarding my standpoint. Next time there's any confusion, it is possible to have a conversation with someone and allow them to clarify their point before attacking an argument that does not exist.

I'll restate my stance now, so you don't need to argue about things that I never said. I initially posted on this topic because I saw someone laughing about leaving a 1 cent tip for a server who didn't greet them for 30 minutes. This lead me to comment on (#1) How rude it is to laugh about something like that and (#2) How this problem could have easily been avoided if the customer made an effort to not sit there for 30 minutes. Because I don't know about you, but I would never have a "I had to wait 30 minutes for a server" story, because after ten I'd either do something about it (i.e. getting a manager involved) or I would leave. And I also informed them that the server who made the mistake was most likely not even allowed to wait on them, so they probably tipped a server poorly for a different server's mistake.

Like I said before, and I'll repeat myself for you: I don't always tip 20%. If my service is bad and I can't find any reason why it would be bad, other than the server was lazy, I do not feel obligated to give them a 20% tip. I never said you should always give your servers a good tip even if you get bad service, so come off it.

And let me rephrase myself. If you're working in customer-service and your income depends on how happy the customer is with their service, then f*ck yeah, the customer is always right. Now, if you've resigned yourself to the fact that the customer is a douche and a lost cause, feel free to give them shitty service; it's not like you're getting that tip anyways. But if you WANT to make money, the best way about it is to give them what they need, when they need it, and to keep them as happy as possible.

Thanks for telling me how to do a job you've never done in your life before. That was my point of view when I first started serving, but with some experience in the industry you learn that this is not always possible. If you really want to know how to make money waiting tables (and by offering me advice on how to do so only indicates to me your level of interest on the subject)... you'll learn that you make the most money by prioritizing certain tables over others. The businessmen who are clearly experienced diners who are polite, patient, and understanding always have priority over the whiny, needy tables. Their bills are usually higher, and since they go out to eat so often, they know what good service is and they reward you properly. In fact, usually when someone comes in expecting us to to be their personal assistant for an hour, they probably don't even spend that much money. Thanks for your advice, but there's a way to make money in serving and most servers already know this.

Please don't make assumptions. It really just makes an ass out of you and... well, mainly you.

Same thing goes to you. And it's funny, because I really don't think I'm making any assumptions about you, unless your behavior in person differs from your online persona.

I'm sorry that we're not all as "experienced" in restaurant service as you are. I don't speak for all of us, but most of us are probably out there doing something more productive with our lives.

f*ck you. So I guess your mom wasn't being productive when she waited tables? Since when it is productive to brag about not doing a particular job? Are you above waiting tables now? You don't know shit about my life or what I've had to do the past few years, so instead of making assumptions about my productivity, you really need to check yourself before you insult something I've done to feed, not only myself, but my brothers for the past few years. In addition to going to school full-time, I've had to take more responsibility in my family than you probably even have a concept of. Grow the f*ck up.

So you never waited tables... and this makes you better than me somehow? This just proves that you have the idea that serving is below someone like you. Honey, it's a JOB just like any other job. A lot of people, LIKE YOU, come into the restaurant assuming that servers are just losers going nowhere in life, and therefore they treat their server like shit. It's people, LIKE YOU, who make the job so shitty. Once you bring "tips" into the picture, you're at the mercy of people who think your sole purpose in life is to serve. Try having class all day, then serving on your feet for hours, and then coming home around midnight to try to do as much homework as possible before the next day. It's hard as shit, and if I didn't have to do that at the time, there are hundreds of other things I'd rather be doing. But it wouldn't make sense for me to think I'm not doing something productive with my life, just because the particular job I chose was waiting tables.

Tell your mom what you just said to me. And tell ALL your friends who serve that you think they aren't doing anything productive with their lives. You are a spoiled little brat.

Anyways, I'm done with this. It's mainly you going around thinking that people here are shitty people who don't tip when all we're trying to say is that we wont tip for shitty service.

Good. Because you've pissed me off enough as it is. I hope you keep your word in shutting-the-f*ck-up too. And that last line illustrates your misunderstanding of my argument. Again.

[batman]

tl;dr.

[T00000]

Then why the hell are you responding? If you don't have anything to say back, don't. You're one of those people, aren't you...

[Tung]

dang, tboltzbabe is kinda cute. i would definitely tip her over 50%

[gojira]

you would also be one of her sleezy customers

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she work for the money

[hypnotique]

you would also be one of her sleezy customers

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she work for the money

Why do those look like nurses with burgers.....??


Moved to debate since thats what this innocent topic turned into....

[T00000]

^ I think that's a picture of a burger place in Southern California where waitresses dress up like sexy nurses and serve burgers called like, "Heart attack burgers" or something like that.

[*BOSS*]

you would also be one of her sleezy customers

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DAMN SON LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THOSE....BURGERS

[Tung]

dang tboltz is mad cute

[*paperplane*]

I've never seen a topic on tipping anywhere not lead to an argument.

My opinions on the matter are based on my qualms with the tipping system as a whole, but I do tip... even when it seems entirely unnecessary.

[shoryuken]

wen i go out freeind.. wii alll chipp enn.. HAHAHA

taakk moi gurll out.. $5