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[illriginal]

Go to Greece, become an Orthodox Christian and you'll realize a whole different version of the Holy Bible, which will go hand in hand with Islam.

[Sabastian]

All of those people were the apostles. That man doesn't know what hes talking about..

What is up with people trying so hard to disprove Christianity.. why don't you guys jump off of Christianity's penis and go and talk about Buddhism or something

[illriginal]

All of those people were the apostles. That man doesn't know what hes talking about..

What is up with people trying so hard to disprove Christianity.. why don't you guys jump off of Christianity's penis and go and talk about Buddhism or something

Apparently he was, afterward over 50 people converted from Christianity to Islam that night.

Christianity has already been disproved. Look up Horus, the "sun" god. No no no not the son of god lol...

[mipadi]

If you're going to post in Debate, state an opinion and argue it.

If you're just posting a video, we have a forum for that.

[illriginal]

If you're going to post in Debate, state an opinion and argue it.

If you're just posting a video, we have a forum for that.

This was well before the "video" section ever existed.

[saintsaens]

First off, when the man speaks about how the the books of the Gospel were written in "according to", that's referring to the fact that each of the Apostles wrote the Gospel from their viewpoint. It doesn't mean they didn't meet Christ. What the f*ck kind of interpreting is this guy doing?

And I'd like to require source from where the speaker says that the writers of the Gospel used pen names.

Continuing on. Jesus not only proclaimed that he was the Son of God, it was prophesized by many, many other prophets in the Old Testament. I don't understand why you would throw out Christianity just because Apostle Paul didn't meet Christ. If that were so, we couldn't/wouldn't have preachers, since obviously that's wrong as well.

Now this is where this twat's theory is really flawed. Christianity is a religion of mercy. Apostle Paul is a prime example of how an evil man repented for his ways to return to the Soveriegn King, Jesus Christ. Just because Paul was a persecutor of Jews doesn't mean that the books that he wrote were fake or flawed.

This is retarded, I can't believe I just wasted another 5 minutes on this shit. This is just another emberfly video. This had NOTHING to do with Christianity.

How about I make blasphemous claims about how your prophet was a war-mongering, chauvanistic selfish pig?

[saintsaens]

Disclaimer to this video:

Don't waste your time on this shit.

[illriginal]

According to. LAWL

Fail.

Don't mind saintsaens, they're bitter

Jesus (pbuh) wasn't the literal Son of God. All the Prophets (pbut) claimed the same exact thing. Because we're God's children. And Paul hunted down Christians who didn't accept the mythology of the trinity

Oh and that guy more than likely knows the Bible better than your pastor. He's a Muslim Scholar who travels the world, especially education institutions, and speaks about Islam and answers any questions directed to him. And his name's, Dr. Zakir Naik.

[saintsaens]

According to. LAWL

Fail.

Don't mind saintsaens, they're bitter

Jesus (pbuh) wasn't the literal Son of God. All the Prophets (pbut) claimed the same exact thing. Because we're God's children. And Paul hunted down Christians who didn't accept the mythology of the trinity

Oh and that guy more than likely knows the Bible better than your pastor. He's a Muslim Scholar who travels the world, especially education institutions, and speaks about Islam and answers any questions directed to him. And his name's, Dr. Zakir Naik.

How about some proof jackass? All you do is spout false facts and then try to pass it off as truth. Even your religion speaks of truth and yet you don't seek it.

Nice job, you're just another ignorant person. No other prophet in the Bible has EVER claimed to be the son of God.

PROOF, MOTHER f*ckER, DO YOU HAVE IT.

Also, just because he's been through school doesn't mean he's educated. A person can go through all the education in school and still be a dumbass.

Example? You.

[illriginal]

How about some proof jackass? All you do is spout false facts and then try to pass it off as truth. Even your religion speaks of truth and yet you don't seek it.

You really don't want to get into this with me. Unless of course you plan to convert to Islam... Otherwise I don't bother debating with people who don't even know their Holy Book. And by the way before you claim that I don't know the Bible... I was a full blown pagan err Christian for 19 years, then I saw the light

Nice job, you're just another ignorant person. No other prophet in the Bible has EVER claimed to be the son of God.

Another ignorant person aye? I'm gonna make this short because Christians tend not to know their Bible well and Christians always go round in circles when it comes to debating religion. Adam. Who was he?


Exactly.

PROOF, MOTHER f*ckER, DO YOU HAVE IT.

That you're a fake Christian who doesn't hold Christian values? You already have.

Also, just because he's been through school doesn't mean he's educated. A person can go through all the education in school and still be a dumbass.

Example? You.

Look him up... you'll find out all his majors. lol...

[saintsaens]

You STILL haven't given me any proof to why this video speaks of truth. You're STILL avoiding the debate.

[saintsaens]

Also, Adam was not the son of God. He was the creation of God. Jesus was the only person to have ever claimed to be fully God and fully man. HYPOSTATIC UNION.

[illriginal]

Jesus did? In his own words? If Jesus did in his own words, show me the verse. (lol)

God did not beget a son. Jesus never claimed to be divine and the trinity is Egyptian/Greek/Roman mythology.

There's nothing to debate, these are all people who have NEVER talked with, sat with, ate with, drank with... NOTHING with Jesus. They're just authors, who "wrote" for Jesus... decades AFTER Jesus' departure. Which by the way, Jesus was never crucified, killed, nor resurrected.

Also, Adam was not the son of God. He was the creation of God. Jesus was the only person to have ever claimed to be fully God and fully man. HYPOSTATIC UNION.

This is where I use your Bible to destroy your paganism:

In the book of Psalms 2:7 we find "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee." David, in this verse, is saying that God had told him he was the son of God and God has begotten him. Clearly Jesus is not the only begotten son of God.

Of course, one could say that although Jesus was not the only begotten son of God, he had no human father in contrast to David who had a human father. That is true! Since Jesus had no human father it makes the relationship between him and God a closer one. The question is what about Adam? Adam had no human father nor a human mother, and according to the Bible he too was the son of God. The Bible says, "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli." (Luke3:23) The Bible goes on to mention the supposed genealogy of Jesus Christ. At the end of this genealogy the Bible comes to Adam, and it says, "Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God." (Luke 3:38). So Adam is also the son of God. According to the assumption: "because Jesus had no human father then he is closer to God than David who had a human father," we can safely conclude that Adam is better than Jesus because he did not have a human father or mother.

The truth is Jesus and Adam do not differ in God’s sight. They were a mere creation of God. The Holy Quran says in clear terms, "Verily, similitude of Jesus with God is as the similitude of Adam; He created him out of dust then said He unto him BE, and he became." (Ch 3: Vr 59).

The verse in I John 5:1 says, "...Jesus is the Christ is born of God...." This indicates that Jesus was born of God, but was Jesus the only born son of God? Let us look at what the Bible says:

God talking to Moses:

Exodus 4:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

Exodus 4:23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

Also, God talking about David:

Psalms 89:27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.

In both Exodus 4:22-23 and Psalms 89:27 Israel and David, respectively, were regarded as the first born sons of God. This means that Jesus was not the only born son of God. This means that the word "born" does not mean conception. It’s just a form of expression God used to show the closeness of people to Him.

Finally, there were many other people mentioned in the bible as sons of God, and one of them was Solomon:

I Chronicles 22:9 Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.

I Chronicles 22:10 He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I will be his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for ever.

Also, remember that some of these verses are taken from the Old Testament, and that this book was originally written in Hebrew. Had the word born or son meant born or son in a literal sense then the Jews would have been ahead of everyone else in claiming their literal sonship to God, or in claiming the literal sonship of Solomon to God. The Jews know their language, and they know what son means. They know that the word "son" should not be taken literally.


In the book Revelation 1:5 says, "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood." Why is it that when Jesus is mentioned as being begotten of God it is taken literally, and when he is mentioned that he is begotten from the dead it is not taken literally? The truth is because the word begotten here does not mean any one could be conceived of the dead; it is a form of expression. The same thing with God, He begets not, and this word "begotten" is only a form of expression.

Then more than likely you're gonna ask (just like every other fake Christian aka pagan) then if Jesus isn't the son of God, then who is he?

in Matthew 21:11 "And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." This was Jesus. He was a prophet of God. He was sent like other prophets to deliver the message of his ONE and only ONE God (glory be to Him). Also, in Luke 24:19 the Bible says "And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people."

Jesus was a true messenger of God Almighty. He was sent by Him to deliver His will. The Bible says in John 5:30 "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me." These are the true characteristics of a prophet. They do as they are commanded. They are sent to deliver a message, and the only difference between them and other humans is their utmost righteousness, "mighty in deed and word" (Luke 24:19). They are the best of all the people of their time. They are the only ones who could bear and act upon the commandments of God completely and fully. They are loved by God because of that, and their nearness to God comes from that.

The same applies to all other prophets. Adam, Noah, Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jacob, Jonah, Moses, Jesus, Jonas, Muhammad and all the other prophets shared the same qualities. The qualities of those who could withstand all forms of tribulations in God’s name. They all fully abided by what God has commanded them. The Quran says, "Say: (O’ Our Apostle Muhammad!) (unto the People) ‘We believe in God, and what hath been sent down to us, and what hath been sent down to Abraham and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Tribes, and what was given to Moses, and Jesus and the Prophets from their Lord, we make no difference between any of them, and we unto Him are muslims’" (CH 3: Vr 84). (Note that "what was given to Moses, and Jesus" is not the same as the current Bible written by Paul, John, Luke, Matthew, and so on. Rather they were the true books of Moses and Jesus. These are not to be found today.)

Then to make this even more laughable, look up the Greek word, "pias or paida"

I'll do it for you: servant, child, son, and or manservant The term was used for every Prophet.

Early Christians, including the Greeks of today and Muslims as well as Unitarian Christians all agree that the term was meant for servant/manservant. Just like David, Adam, Moses, etc..

[Tung]

No need to double post...

[illriginal]

No need to double post...

Sorry, I gave them a fair warning, not to get into this with me. If they continue, they'll be on their knees 5 times a day in no time.

[Sabastian]

Apparently he was, afterward over 50 people converted from Christianity to Islam that night.

Christianity has already been disproved. Look up Horus, the "sun" god. No no no not the son of god lol...

Apparently he was what??

Those people are stupid for doing that. If you're going to convert to another religion atleast do your own research and come up with a good reason to convert other than having heard some man talk to you about Christianity for 5 minutes and filling your head with facts that aren't even true.

Thats like having some random man coming up to you telling you that hes your daddy.. are you going to believe him and run into the sunset with your new daddy?? NO. Your going to go get a blood test or something to make sure that its true. You shouldn't be so gullible to believe whatever people tell you.

And Jesus did know Mathew Mark Luke and John.. they were his desciples

[illriginal]

Apparently he was what??

Right.

Those people are stupid for doing that. If you're going to convert to another religion atleast do your own research and come up with a good reason to convert other than having heard some man talk to you about Christianity for 5 minutes and filling your head with facts that aren't even true.

-.- They didn't convert over 5 minutes of demolishing Christianity. He doesn't go around the world making 5 minute speeches then calls it a day lol

What facts aren't even true...? How can you read the Bible and disagree with what he's saying, when the Bible is showing you the evidence..

Thats like having some random man coming up to you telling you that hes your daddy.. are you going to believe him and run into the sunset with your new daddy?? NO. Your going to go get a blood test or something to make sure that its true. You shouldn't be so gullible to believe whatever people tell you.

Ya I guess... same could be said for Christians who've been tricked into believing Jesus is God when God made it clear as day that He has no partners and that no one should worship anything other than Him. But Christians worship God's creation... Jesus.

And Jesus did know Mathew Mark Luke and John.. they were his desciples

According to them.

[Sabastian]

Jesus and God are the same person.. the holy trinity.. the father son and the holy spirit. It sounds like you don't really know what you're talking about..

Stop calling Christians "fake" and "pagans", you're offending a lot of people. If I told you that I thought the Quaran was full of crap I think you would get offended.

If you're trying to convert people by posting this video it isn't working. All you're doing is making fun of Christianity and pissing a whole bunch of people off.

[Sabastian]

Right.

-.- They didn't convert over 5 minutes of demolishing Christianity. He doesn't go around the world making 5 minute speeches then calls it a day lol

What facts aren't even true...? How can you read the Bible and disagree with what he's saying, when the Bible is showing you the evidence..
Ya I guess... same could be said for Christians who've been tricked into believing Jesus is God when God made it clear as day that He has no partners and that no one should worship anything other than Him. But Christians worship God's creation... Jesus.
According to them.

The fact that Matthew Mark Luke and John didn't know Jesus, when they did.

We've been tricked? Seriously?? I wish I could say the same about Muhammad, but i'm not going to because I know how to respect other people's beliefs.

[illriginal]

Jesus and God are the same person.. the holy trinity.. the father son and the holy spirit. It sounds like you don't really know what you're talking about..

Show me where Jesus himself, not accordingly, used the term, "Trinity".

You also claim that I don't really know what I'm talking about... yet your own Bible, the same book that I've studied since I was 7 years old proves to be fallacious.

That's funny that you mentioned about me trying to convert people, because this isn't about conversion, this is about making people aware of mistakes. And quite honestly I've received a few PMs from people who are interested in learning about Islam. There's a campaign right now, worldwide, and we're dominating without trying hard. The truth shall prevail.

Thanks partially to Christians/Christianity/Holy Bible, thousands upon thousands of people have become atheist because Christianity is a contradiction and hypocritical. And the proof lies within the Scriptures, the teachings, and the Christians themselves.

[Maccabee]

Wow. Give me a reason why you think the bible is wrong and ill prove it wrong. Or if I dont know how to phrase something i'll ask my Dad who is a pastor for help. Apparently we have completely different views.

[illriginal]

Wow. Give me a reason why you think the bible is wrong and ill prove it wrong. Or if I dont know how to phrase something i'll ask my Dad who is a pastor for help. Apparently we have completely different views.

We indeed do. Have your father, the pastor, read "The Apocalypse Of Peter". Then explain to him that book was taken out of the Bible and we all know that the Bible has many missing books/verses, thanks to the Romans (the same Romans who wrote according to Jesus... lawl). Once he reads it, he'll know exactly why that book was taken out. That'll be a nice shocker.

[Maccabee]

huh? Why would it matter if there were versus taken from the Bible? And how do you know this? Let me say that I wont say too much though cause my Dad is the one with the degree in theology not me.

[illriginal]

huh? Why would it matter if there were versus taken from the Bible? And how do you know this? Let me say that I wont say too much though cause my Dad is the one with the degree in theology not me.

Ok that's fine, just write down, "The Apocalypse Of Peter" which was a legitimate part of the Bible and have him read it. If he claims that it's not part of the Bible and it never was, have him pick up an Orthodox Greek Bible and if he can read Greek he'll see a whole different story than what is taught in the Western side of the world.

And why does it matter if the verses are taken from the Bible?... This is supposed to be a Holy Book... the word of God and the Prophets.

People have died just for mistranslated the Qur'an by one (1) word... the Bible has been translated thousands of times over.

[emberfly]

saintsaens needs some serious anger management