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 Jan 29 2009, 08:01 PM
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 monster hunter  Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,203 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,188  |
QUOTE(codyfrijole2006 @ Jan 29 2009, 07:38 PM)  Science, by far. You're comparing disease to antibiotics. Without Science total world population wouldn't be more than a few hundred thousand, most of whom would be looking for dinner under flat rocks. To quote someone whose name I've forgotten, life would be nasty, brutish and short. Gregor Mendel, Isaac Newton, and many more of these scientists were in fact, Christian. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:04 PM
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monster hunter Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,203 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,188 |
Also, I think it's funny how everyone who's talking about Christianity and how they "don't look at the facts" are the same people who probably wouldn't know any science in the first place.
Also, if you were in favor of such science, why is it that you cannot do what science was meant to do? Investigate, study, and find answers. Some people don't seem to be able to do this. (codyfrijole2006) |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(Tung @ Jan 29 2009, 04:59 PM) Come one, if you look at Earth's history in a geographical and climatic aspect, you will see a pattern. Yeah, its getting hotter. Therefore, global warming, im not talking about death, im talking about the globe getting warmer. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:05 PM
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 ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 14,309 Joined: Nov 2004 Member No: 65,593 |
For some reason, I kinda agree with Podo on that.
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Jan 29 2009, 08:06 PM
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 Vae Victis Group: Official Member Posts: 1,417 Joined: Sep 2006 Member No: 460,227 |
QUOTE(Tung @ Jan 29 2009, 07:49 PM) but in reality you don't even need it at all. Global warming is f*cken fake These deductions came from examining the evidence behind the physiologies. You're using science to make them. All you're doing is refuting specific practitioners, not science as a concept. Also, global warming is hardly disputed. The cause of it is. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 29 2009, 05:05 PM) Yeah, its getting hotter. Therefore, global warming, im not talking about death, im talking about the globe getting warmer. yes, but global warming activists are like making it seem like we need to change our lifestyle, and we are the cause. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:09 PM
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monster hunter Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,203 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,188 |
QUOTE(Tung @ Jan 29 2009, 08:05 PM) For some reason, I kinda agree with Podo on that. I would've said more but your post earlier pretty much said what was needed to say. Generally it's usually the dumb ones who are hardcore against religion. Since it's a "crock" and all. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:12 PM
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 I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
i'm against religion
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Jan 29 2009, 08:16 PM
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monster hunter Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,203 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,188 |
Sorry JC. It's a generalization. Mistake on my part.
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Jan 29 2009, 08:19 PM
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I'm Jc Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 |
no worries i was mostly kidding, i know the kind you are talking about. i know a lot of people "hardcore" against religion, more so than me, and not even like 5% of them i would consider well read or very educated on their opinons. even though i think religion is a "crock" on a lot of levels, i think people should at least figure out WHY they believe that before running around spewing it.
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Jan 29 2009, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 29 2009, 08:19 PM) no worries i was mostly kidding, i know the kind you are talking about. i know a lot of people "hardcore" against religion, more so than me, and not even like 5% of them i would consider well read or very educated on their opinons. even though i think religion is a "crock" on a lot of levels, i think people should at least figure out WHY they believe that before running around spewing it. QFT. But hey, what do I know? QUOTE(codyfrijole2006 @ Jan 29 2009, 08:13 PM) It would be pointless and a waste of my time, nothing I can say will convince you. The brainwashing has been done. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:29 PM
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QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jan 29 2009, 07:09 PM) Generally it's usually the dumb ones who are hardcore against religion. Since it's a "crock" and all. Because it is, I am not the one who believes in a talking ******* snake. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(codyfrijole2006 @ Jan 29 2009, 08:29 PM) Because it is, I am not the one who believes in a talking ******* snake. So what other Bible stories have you heard about as a child? (BTW, The snake is an anthropomorphous image.) |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jan 29 2009, 07:33 PM) So what other Bible stories have you heard about as a child? (BTW, The snake is an anthropomorphous image.) Lol! its ALWAYS something! Anything that doesn't makes sense Christians automatically use "Oh well its just a metaphor!" or some other lame cover So pathetic. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(codyfrijole2006 @ Jan 29 2009, 08:40 PM) Lol! its ALWAYS something! Anything that doesn't makes sense Christians automatically use "Oh well its just a metaphor!" or some other lame cover So pathetic. What's there not to understand? You must not read much. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jan 29 2009, 07:47 PM) What's there not to understand? You must not read much.  Typical reply! You just keep calling me "dumb" for not believing that book of fairy tales and I will just sit back and continue to laugh at your stupidity. Because believe me it is HILARIOUS! |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(codyfrijole2006 @ Jan 29 2009, 07:40 PM) Lol! its ALWAYS something! The few Christians I know do not say "oh well it's just a metaphor", because to them that is excusing the book of their lord. There are lots of ways to interpret the Bible, but I don't think metaphor is the right word. Some people will say that the story of Adam and Eve is about the fractured relationship between god and man, or the two sides of man, or that if do not obey god you will be punished. People have free thought, so obviously there are going to be different ways to interpret scripture. Anything that doesn't makes sense Christians automatically use "Oh well its just a metaphor!" or some other lame cover So pathetic. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(codyfrijole2006 @ Jan 29 2009, 08:49 PM) Typical reply! You just keep calling me "dumb" for not believing that book of fairy tales and I will just sit back and continue to laugh at your stupidity. Because believe me it is HILARIOUS! I'm not trying to make you believe it. Why are you assuming so much hostility? I'm just wondering why you're so passionately against Christianity when obviously you know nothing about it. I'm not asking if you believe in God, I'm asking why you haven't read/studied enough of the Bible to find the flaws that which you are so against. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jan 29 2009, 07:53 PM) I'm asking why you haven't read/studied enough of the Bible to find the flaws that which you are so against. I have read more than enough to know that its all just ridiculous, and I actually encourage everyone to at least read it once because we need more atheists in the world, and nothing will get you there quicker. |
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Jan 29 2009, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(codyfrijole2006 @ Jan 29 2009, 08:55 PM) I have read more than enough to know that its all just ridiculous, and I actually encourage everyone to at least read it once because we need more atheists in the world, and nothing will get you there quicker. Then how about putting some of that ridiculousness on the table, big shot? I'll be the first one to admit if I don't know something about anything, but so far all you've done is make yourself look bad. I'm waiting for a logical argument so I can have a fair chance at a rebuttal. I'm not looking to change your viewpoint, nor your ideals. I'm just here to discuss things. If I wanted to hear your typical responses, I'd go to OT chat. Likewise, if you're so angry at Christianity, then go vent elsewhere. This subforum is for intelligent discussions only. |
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Jan 29 2009, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jan 29 2009, 07:59 PM) Then how about putting some of that ridiculousness on the table, big shot? I'll be the first one to admit if I don't know something about anything, but so far all you've done is make yourself look bad. I'm waiting for a logical argument so I can have a fair chance at a rebuttal. I'm not looking to change your viewpoint, nor your ideals. I'm just here to discuss things. If I wanted to hear your typical responses, I'd go to OT chat. Likewise, if you're so angry at Christianity, then go vent elsewhere. This subforum is for intelligent discussions only. QUOTE(codyfrijole2006 @ Jan 29 2009, 07:13 PM) It would be pointless and a waste of my time, nothing I can say will convince you. The brainwashing has been done. |
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Jan 29 2009, 09:02 PM
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monster hunter Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 1,203 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 18,188 |
Then why are you still posting here?
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Jan 29 2009, 09:03 PM
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lol cody frijole you're such a tool. why don't you put up or shut up, and disprove anti's points, bring "ridiculousness" to the table, etc. you obviously don't care about your time if you're posting here, so unless you care to say anything you're officially labeled as a troll, and believe me what i say goes around here so you better watch out or else.
praise jesus |
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Jan 29 2009, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jan 29 2009, 08:03 PM) and believe me what i say goes around here so you better watch out or else. praise jesus Ohhh internet gangsters are so scary! QUOTE(AntiAnodyne @ Jan 29 2009, 08:02 PM) Then why are you still posting here? Great question! you are correct for once though, I shouldn't be wasting my time on a feeble minded individual like yourself so I am done here.
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Jan 29 2009, 09:07 PM
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rofl like hell you are, you're such a predictable tool using the whole "internet gangster" label. you're probably one of those 4 chan f*gs who thinks theyre cool for using internet slang/lingo/accusations. well i've got news for you. your'e not.
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