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My feeble attempt at the explanation of Christianity., You ask questions, and I'll try to answer. |
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QUOTE You did. Your post was pretty incoherent, so I tried to understand it best I could. Sorry (not sarcastic) i suck at wording things, what i was trying to say was that we mock the God(s) that people used to believe, not even (a) God(s), the objects and human-beings, that were simply just born into a royal family, that people used to believe to be magical or holy. So how ever many years from now, when no one believes in the God you believe in today, they will make a mockery of your God. What I am asking is how does your God differ from the other God, Gods, Goddesses, holy objects, people, and animals people used to believe in and worship, that we mock and make fun of? (I hope I explained better) |
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If a person is an amazing charitable human being. Like amazing. Does a lot of good in the world, donates and helps people in need, but doesn't believe in God.
Would they go to hell? |
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If a person is an amazing charitable human being. Like amazing. Does a lot of good in the world, donates and helps people in need, but doesn't believe in God. Would they go to hell? yes, for not believing. no sin is bigger than the other for christians. basically you could be a really great person and kind, and help people, and live a good productive life but not believing in god makes you hell worthy. you are no better than a person who rapes little girls, shoots people in the face and kills their family in cold blood. you're equal to them in gods eyes ![]() he's really self absorbed like that. if you don't worship him then you get torched. |
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I guess that's why he forgives murderers, rapists, and awful awful people just because they go to confession or ask for redemption.
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alrite, so is god a man? being? what exactly is he
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Look, guys, all your arguments are interesting and whatever, but just answer me this one thing:
Can God create a burrito so spicy He cannot eat it? |
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how did dis topik get bumped LOL
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I guess that's why he forgives murderers, rapists, and awful awful people just because they go to confession or ask for redemption. Forgiveness is universal for all. The thing about human beings is that we have a sense of pride. All of you have been perhaps jealous at someone, angry, or conceited. These are all sins and are worthy of death. Christians believe that we are no better than rapists, murderers, and perverts. Why? Because we're all human. We're nothing. We're slowly dying, and when we die, no one will care. Since we are the same as every other human being who's done something wrong, we believe that we must treat them equal as human beings and also have the mercy and love that is reflected by Jesus Christ. You might think that God is self-absorbed, but maybe perhaps you are? |
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Also, might I mention the reason why the good man who lives his life as a philanthropist is not worthy to go to Heaven is because he/she lives simply on good works.
You have to have the other part of Christianity, which is faith. Not everyone can continuously do good works all the time. That's why we have faith. To help give others a chance. (Because you know there are some pretty rotten people out there. They need a chance, too.) |
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Sorry (not sarcastic) i suck at wording things, what i was trying to say was that we mock the God(s) that people used to believe, not even (a) God(s), the objects and human-beings, that were simply just born into a royal family, that people used to believe to be magical or holy. So how ever many years from now, when no one believes in the God you believe in today, they will make a mockery of your God. What I am asking is how does your God differ from the other God, Gods, Goddesses, holy objects, people, and animals people used to believe in and worship, that we mock and make fun of? (I hope I explained better) The main difference between other gods and my God is that my God, in all His amazing mercy, came down to us. Because we cannot reach God, the unreachable has reached us. I know for a fact that I don't deserve anything. I don't deserve to have friends, family, or to even know joy. But because of God, I have all this. Even the things He takes away from me, I can be joyful for because anything that won't help me to live my life as a pilgrim in this world will be thrown out. He lightens my burden. Amen to God. |
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better question, does god shit? We are taught that God has always been. He is the alpha, the omega, the beginning and the end. God is and always was spirit. Thus, he cannot "shit". Why? Humans shit. Spirits do not shit. Since you're being funny, I'll tell you a basic, simple, theological joke. How many angels can dance on a pinprick? As many as they want to be on kingdinguhling. Get it? Good! |
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I guess that's why he forgives murderers, rapists, and awful awful people just because they go to confession or ask for redemption. I asked a fellow brother in Christ a question. I said, "Hey mang, do you think if Hitler truly repented before he died, he'd go to heaven?" And while I expected the "lolwtf" response, he said something interesting. "I don't know the full extent of God's mercy." That hit me. I realized that God even has room for Hitler in his book. (Controversial, but you get the point.) Imagine if you were in a rapist's position; if you really realized what you did was wrong and repented, wouldn't you want forgiveness as well? I already know your answer. |
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That's an fallacy, bro. Not very clever at all. uhmm. i don't think you get it kid. god is either all-powerful or he isn't. he can either do everything, or he can't. if he can't make the burrito, that's something he can't do. if he can't eat the burrito, that's something he can't do. thus, he couldn't possibly be all-powerful. it's a simple tool to demonstrate the absurdity and meaninglessness of subscribing the anything to quality of "all-powerfulness" or "omnipotence." more classically, "could god create a boulder so heavy that he himself could not lift it?" p.s. you're obviously still a stupid kid or just a really really moronic and brainwashed adult. you suck. |
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uhmm. i don't think you get it kid. god is either all-powerful or he isn't. he can either do everything, or he can't. if he can't make the burrito, that's something he can't do. if he can't eat the burrito, that's something he can't do. thus, he couldn't possibly be all-powerful. it's a simple tool to demonstrate the absurdity and meaninglessness of subscribing the anything to quality of "all-powerfulness" or "omnipotence." more classically, "could god create a boulder so heavy that he himself could not lift it?" p.s. you're obviously still a stupid kid or just a really really moronic and brainwashed adult. you suck. Still a fallacy bro. Good to see you again, Nate. |
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Christians believe that we are no better than rapists, murderers, and perverts. Why? Because we're all human. We're nothing. We're slowly dying, and when we die, no one will care. Since we are the same as every other human being who's done something wrong, we believe that we must treat them equal as human beings and also have the mercy and love that is reflected by Jesus Christ. You might think that God is self-absorbed, but maybe perhaps you are? There are some sins, some crimes that should never be forgiven. I find it hilarious that saying what you did wrong in a wooden booth and doing 10 Hail Marys is enough to absolve your sins. Those criminals who magically find God in their last days... I find it hard to believe they are sincere. They do not deserve forgiveness. Not ever. And any God who would grant salvation to a Hail Mary making child rapist over a nonbelieving humanitarian is worthless. I am not self absorbed. If I do something wrong, I know it and I will own up to it. I will feel guilty and I might ask for forgiveness... but I'll ask it from the person I wronged. |
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There are some sins, some crimes that should never be forgiven. I find it hilarious that saying what you did wrong in a wooden booth and doing 10 Hail Marys is enough to absolve your sins. Those criminals who magically find God in their last days... I find it hard to believe they are sincere. They do not deserve forgiveness. Not ever. And any God who would grant salvation to a Hail Mary making child rapist over a nonbelieving humanitarian is worthless. I am not self absorbed. If I do something wrong, I know it and I will own up to it. I will feel guilty and I might ask for forgiveness... but I'll ask it from the person I wronged. First, I am a Reformed Christian. I don't say my Hail Mary's. I don't speak with a priest to resolves my sins. I speak with God about it, not some priest. I can't debate about something like this. My opinion is that you are the same as I am, and the same as any rapist out there. We are organic, decaying matter. Behind every criminal is someone who wants help, whether they seek it or not. Of course you have to make things right with the person you've wrong. Then you talk to God and ask him to give you the inspiration to work harder to be a better person. Most humanitarians believe that all people deserve a second chance. Why don't you? |
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Still a fallacy bro. Good to see you again, Nate. i don't know who you are, or don't remember you, or whatever. you're weird. iuhhno. hello. ahem. p.s. you can't just say "still a fallacy" & ignore the argument. concede the point or actually form a rebuttal. i mean, admit that omnipotence is incoherent & contrary, or demonstrate why it is not. thank you. ahem. p.p.s. don't you think religious belief is largely geographical (i.e. environmental: what society, your parents, etc. etc. believe and teach you) & pays little service, whatsoever, to reason, rationality, or honest discussion? |
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p.p.s. don't you think religious belief is largely geographical (i.e. environmental: what society, your parents, etc. etc. believe and teach you) & pays little service, whatsoever, to reason, rationality, or honest discussion? cause people rather be ignorant and happy, still 6 billion people alive, if it works, why fix it |
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if it works, why fix it 1. some people would argue that it doesn't actually work, or at least that it doesn't work as well as you suggest. 2. for the hopes of societal progression, religiosity serves to stagnate society (ex. stem-cell research, gay marriage, etc). 3. because there is some value in being aware of yourself & the world around you. 4. because the church is a monster that everyone refuses to quit feeding, it's a waste and a danger. etc. etc. etc. there are plenty of good reasons to reverse/destroy/subvert religious belief. |
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i hear the qur'an tells people to go kill other people in the name of god
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1. some people would argue that it doesn't actually work, or at least that it doesn't work as well as you suggest. 2. for the hopes of societal progression, religiosity serves to stagnate society (ex. stem-cell research, gay marriage, etc). 3. because there is some value in being aware of yourself & the world around you. 4. because the church is a monster that everyone refuses to quit feeding, it's a waste and a danger. etc. etc. etc. there are plenty of good reasons to reverse/destroy/subvert religious belief. yeah i agree with that shit, but think of it this way, are your current beliefs and morals not at all influenced by some sort of religion? bible is shit, but it does do good in terms of regulating people....well, most people |
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why do u need to serve god on earth? i don't understand why he needs people to serve him though, so he can feel high and mighty? Because of the great commision. God wants us to preach the gospel to every living creature. And when the earth ends(no one but go knows when that will be) we wan as many people as possible to be Christians. |
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