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post Jan 23 2009, 05:23 PM
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i honestly don't see what difference it makes if they are going to throw these embryos out otherwise. maybe i'm just misunderstanding that, i swear i read/heard that this morning, but what the hell. if they are using ones that will otherwise be thrown out then there isn't any potential for life in the first place.
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:23 PM
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still taking a life right?
and who says someone can't repent for what they did you still gonna kill them?
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto @ Jan 23 2009, 02:23 PM) *
still taking a life right?
and who says someone can't repent for what they did you still gonna kill them?

life can be differentiated. Killing a plant is different from killing an animal
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2009, 05:23 PM) *
i honestly don't see what difference it makes if they are going to throw these embryos out otherwise. maybe i'm just misunderstanding that, i swear i read/heard that this morning, but what the hell. if they are using ones that will otherwise be thrown out then there isn't any potential for life in the first place.


If people know they were getting thrown out then what's the difference wether they get thrown out or used at least if we use them for research then their life at least made a difference
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2009, 02:23 PM) *
i honestly don't see what difference it makes if they are going to throw these embryos out otherwise. maybe i'm just misunderstanding that, i swear i read/heard that this morning, but what the hell. if they are using ones that will otherwise be thrown out then there isn't any potential for life in the first place.

thats a very "logical" way of thinking about it. but yes, that is correct
 
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QUOTE(Tsukuyomi-No-Mokoto @ Jan 23 2009, 06:26 PM) *
If people know they were getting thrown out then what's the difference wether they get thrown out or used at least if we use them for research then their life at least made a difference

i just said that
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:27 PM
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i'm just agreeing with it
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:28 PM
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oh ok
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:28 PM
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lolol, in the end it just depends whether you wanna kill a life. so either christian vs. everyone else
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jan 23 2009, 05:23 PM) *
i honestly don't see what difference it makes if they are going to throw these embryos out otherwise. maybe i'm just misunderstanding that, i swear i read/heard that this morning, but what the hell. if they are using ones that will otherwise be thrown out then there isn't any potential for life in the first place.

I know what you mean. Women are going to get abortions either way if stem cell research is allowed or not so might as well make some use out of them. The Pro-life people should see a little something in that.
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(Tomates @ Jan 23 2009, 02:29 PM) *
I know what you mean. Women are going to get abortions either way if stem cell research is allowed or not so might as well make some use out of them. The Pro-life people should see a little something in that.

well with that logic we might as well let all drugs be legal since whether or not it is against the law, people are still going to use them
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:35 PM
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QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 23 2009, 05:32 PM) *
well with that logic we might as well let all drugs be legal since whether or not it is against the law, people are still going to use them

That is a good point. But Abortion isn't illegal
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:38 PM
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I hear dead babies taste better than a nice juicy steak. Confirm/deny?
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 05:38 PM
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yeah so neither should stem cell research but you know them crazy christians



so tomatoes, would you rather bang tung or shanaynay
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Tomates @ Jan 23 2009, 02:29 PM) *
I know what you mean. Women are going to get abortions either way if stem cell research is allowed or not so might as well make some use out of them. The Pro-life people should see a little something in that.

I don't think the embryos used are taken from women who are otherwise going to get an abortion. They're created.
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 10:59 PM
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Soon... Organs will be harvested and then grown...and those people with enough money can buy eternal youth.... soon all operations will be successful.... it's only a matter of time... the importance of if it's right or wrong won't stop it from happening... science is the base of human curiosity....and our curiosity is what makes us human.

There is no debate. There is only what has been... and what will be.
 
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post Jan 23 2009, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 23 2009, 04:38 PM) *
so tomatoes, would you rather bang tung or shanaynay

 
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post Jan 24 2009, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(Elba @ Jan 23 2009, 10:55 PM) *
I don't think the embryos used are taken from women who are otherwise going to get an abortion. They're created.

Im not saying that's 100% true and stuff but i have read something about it before

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so tomatoes, would you rather bang tung or shanaynay

Why... stubborn.gif
 
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post Jan 24 2009, 05:33 PM
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cause its all in good fun
 
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post Jan 25 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 23 2009, 04:16 PM) *
well the thing is, people who are against stem cell research are probably pro-life in the first place, so it just comes down to, whether its ok to kill a life, even at a embryo stage

QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 23 2009, 04:25 PM) *
life can be differentiated. Killing a plant is different from killing an animal

QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 23 2009, 04:28 PM) *
lolol, in the end it just depends whether you wanna kill a life. so either christian vs. everyone else


you sound so contrary & insane & stupid.
first you can't do it because it's a matter of the "value of life."
then you're like, well, life isn't as valuable if you commit a heinous crime, & it's alright to kill those people.
then you admit that life can be differentiated. so, it isn't a "value of life" that is preventing us from killing, to be exact.
then you turn it into a clear dichotomy, where you want to kill (everyone else) or don't want to (christian). as if christians don't want to kill people & never do, etc. and as if everyone else has no concept of a "value of life."
in either case, you sound like you're running around in zig-zaggy circles. i just want to comment on one point:

we do differentiate between different forms & stages of life.

let's use your "killing a plant is different than killing an animal" contrast:
KILLING AN EMBRYO IS DIFFERENT THAN KILLING A CHILD
 
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post Jan 25 2009, 05:30 PM
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you retarded f*ck, its called playing devils advocate to keep this topic alive and not just be another cB yoohaha and agree with everything everyone is saying
 
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post Jan 25 2009, 05:33 PM
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I can't believe anyone would be against this. Being against this would be anti-life.
 
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post Jan 25 2009, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 25 2009, 04:30 PM) *
you retarded f*ck, its called playing devils advocate to keep this topic alive and not just be another cB yoohaha and agree with everything everyone is saying


you don't play devil's advocate by constantly & inconceivable changing your position. & how the hell am i supposed to know that you weren't being sincere? you're a complete idiot anyways... seriously, what the hell do you expect?

nonetheless, don't you believe in some sort of god? or something?
 
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post Jan 25 2009, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(NoSex @ Jan 25 2009, 06:26 PM) *
you don't play devil's advocate by constantly & inconceivable changing your position. & how the hell am i supposed to know that you weren't being sincere? you're a complete idiot anyways... seriously, what the hell do you expect?

nonetheless, don't you believe in some sort of god? or something?

im sorry that you cannot grasp the complexity of my mind, yeah you are your own god
 
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post Jan 26 2009, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(KINGdinguhling @ Jan 25 2009, 08:43 PM) *
yeah you are your own god


whoa, deep.
 

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