Weapons/manliness Options

[*KINGdinguhling*]

Here ill give you the benefit of the doubt on this one since you actually made a somewhat competent post, but why are you trying to lecture mipadi and telling him to read shit. I highly doubt you can fathom exactly how much he knows, and no i aint kissing his ass.

[Tung]

That's how all news outlet is though. Not just Africa, or Israeli. It's in the United States too. The News Corporation works with the government. And what's being reported in the media is what government wants you guys to hear and know about. Government uses media as a social control mechanism.

[mipadi]

If youve seen hotel rwanda, to me its seems like isreal is like africa and when they listen to the radio they wont say whats really happening.
Also you might want to read some isreally headlines. cause they often give a lot of info that other news stations wont.

I have read Israeli news articles (albeit translated into English, since I don't read Hebrew). Like American media, some are decent, some are heavily biased. It depends on the source; there's a stark difference between "Zionist" and "Israeli". A lot of Israelis actually disagree with the military actions of their government, as shown in their press. Even so, organizations like the BBC have offices in the Middle East, and are known for their excellent news coverage.

Anyway, since we were talking about missiles before, I thought this photograph would illustrate my point. The top half shows a strike from a Hamas rocket; the bottom, a strike from an Israeli missile:

[mipadi]

Edit: o and you mentioned isreal bombing civilians but hamas bombs more isreally civilians. My dad has actually gone to the camps where they keep all the homade bombs that have exploded in isreal and there are just hundreds and hundreds on racks.

Here are the casuality statistics For September 29, 2000 - November 30, 2008. Note that these, of course, do not include the most recent violence.

You'll note that many more Palestinians have been killed.

I'm not arguing that Israeli civilians aren't targeted, but there's no doubt that the Israeli army is much better at killing than the Palestinian militants.

[Maccabee]

Ok well im definitely starting to see your point.
Even though the rockets fired from hamas werent as deadly they still tried and there intent is to kill people. Because all there bombs were homade.
And the isrely missiles fired were fired in defense. So our views really arent that different but I just think that palestines are the "bad guys"
Cause they declared war on Isreal.
O and im not questioning how smart you are! I mean you are 10 yrs older than me.
But ive just really seen whats happening directly not through new stations that could be twisting the truth. Cause my dad has close relations with one of the military leaders that stay on the gaza strip stopping palestines from braking through.

[NoSex]

But ive just really seen whats happening directly not through new stations that could be twisting the truth. Cause my dad has close relations with one of the military leaders that stay on the gaza strip stopping palestines from braking through.

if your father works with the military in order to "stop palestinians from breaking through," don't you think his reporting of events would be inherently biased? don't you think he would be inclined to identify his militaristic enemies & targets as "bad guys?"

[NoSex]

And back in the 1940s, FDR didn't have any first-hand evidence that Hitler was mass-murdering Jews. Was he wrong to declare war on Germany?

what the hell does "evidence that hitler was mass-murdering jews" have to do with a declaration of war against germany?

america didn't enter the war because of the holocaust; that's straight up middle school revisionism. really, as you slightly allude to, we had no idea of the true horrors & reality of the entire situation until august of 1942, long after we had already entered the war (after having been attacked by the japanese @ pearl harbor). & that only prompted a declaration of war against japan. if it weren't for the tripartite pact, held by the axis powers (sans the ussr), we may have never declared war on germany. further, what little whispers of second, third, fourth-hand accounts of the "final solution" our government & public received, we showed abundant apathy & antisemitism. for example, the ss st. louis. fdr was aware of the refugees, despite the absence of first-hand evidence of their likely-fate in europe; despite this, fdr sent them away. further, fdr refused to give visas, and showed no real initiative in saving the jewish population from nazi extermination.

so... your question is entirely bizarre & it's implications are ill-informed & false. you might as well have said that the north fought the civil war in order to free the slaves.

[mipadi]

what the hell does "evidence that hitler was mass-murdering jews" have to do with a declaration of war against germany?

Bad example. I just meant to imply that because you haven't seen something yourself, doesn't mean it's impossible to construct a view of what happened based on evidence from others.

I actually realized after the post that the implication that FDR was hoping to "save the Jews" was flat-out wrong, and our entry into World War II against Germany was really a result of the attack on Pearl Harbor, which in turn opens up a number of complications in pinpointing a real reason.

[NoSex]

Bad example. I just meant to imply that because you haven't seen something yourself, doesn't mean it's impossible to construct a view of what happened based on evidence from others.

I actually realized after the post that the implication that FDR was hoping to "save the Jews" was flat-out wrong, and our entry into World War II against Germany was really a result of the attack on Pearl Harbor, which in turn opens up a number of complications in pinpointing a real reason.

ANTI-SEMITE!

[mipadi]

ANTI-SEMITE!

Yeah, I'd actually wish for all Jews to be wiped off the face of the earth, except then there'd be no reason for Hebrew National hot dogs anymore, I suppose.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Hooray image macros.

[Maccabee]

^Haha.
Well I guess we have all expresssed out opions now.
and my dad doesnt work for the military. He has a close friend that does.
And mipadi i thought u were jewish?! Why would you want that?

[mipadi]

And mipadi i thought u were jewish?! Why would you want that?

No, I'm an atheist. And I am equally suspicious of all organized religions.

[Maccabee]

No, I'm an atheist. And I am equally suspicious of all organized religions.

Then our views are completely different cause im a christian and my dads a pastor over jewish ministries and my mom works full time at a church and my oldest brother goes to a bible college.

[Rachel]

You are so clueless Joseph. Michael is not an anti-semite. It's called sarcasm.

[hypnotique]

I have a bra to choke someone with.

Some silk ropes. awesome handcuffs and a stick/whip thing.........and of course my treasured french knifes

[Maccabee]

You are so clueless Joseph. Michael is not an anti-semite. It's called sarcasm.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

My weapon of choice?


Or maybe the Electrodriver from the Painkiller game.

[potatoface]

LOL Awesome pic... Hahaha

I always thought fist was manly enough... Like learning Karate and Tae Kwon Do...
I always wanted to learn that ninja stuff... I forgot what its called but it looks like a fork except larger...