Vista? Options

[Maccabee]

What do you think of it?

vs xp who wins?

Im not worried about speed so I like vista. WHich I never thought Id say.
As my new vista computer gets old and slow I might put xp on it to speed it up.

Thoughts?

What are you running?

Vista? Xp? OS X?

Thoughts?

[digitalfragrance]

The only issue I have is program compatibility. My anti-virus software that I recently updated was shutting down my firewall... needless to say I got it fixed, but it was totally vista related.

I like how Vista can sometimes diagnose it's own problems, and normal system functions are easier. So Vista wins, IMO.

[Maccabee]

The only issue I have is program compatibility. My anti-virus software that I recently updated was shutting down my firewall... needless to say I got it fixed, but it was totally vista related.

I like how Vista can sometimes diagnose it's own problems, and normal system functions are easier. So Vista wins, IMO.

Vista took some getting used too.

It has its own new bugs but its getting rid of old ones.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Linux is better.

But out of Windows, I'd say Vista.

[Maccabee]

Linux is better.

But out of Windows, I'd say Vista.

What is Linux! I constantly hear about it but dont know what it is!
I know its an operating system but i have never seen or used it! And i dont know what is different about it? and how to get it!

[heyo-captain-jac...]

What is Linux! I constantly hear about it but dont know what it is!
I know its an operating system but i have never seen or used it! And i dont know what is different about it? and how to get it!

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=434787

http://www.linux.com/

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=626185

There's other distributions, my favorites are Mandriva, Ubuntu, and Kubuntu.

Also, wall of text:

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Linux Pros:

* You can leave you're computer on for like a year and it'll still be just as responsive as when you first booted it.
* Looks prettier than vista whilst using massively less resources to provide the same kind of effects.
* Pretty much all software for linux is free.
* Linux itself is free.
* When I installed linux on my laptop I didn't need to locate a single driver for any piece of hardware everything was configured for me automatically.
* Linux is a piece of piss to get all your drivers and software updated. It's literally just a one click process to update all your software and drivers to the latest versions.
* Background processes don't rape your resources at all. I get much better battery life on Linux, as 99% of the time the CPU is at 0%
* I downloaded a 1Kb bash script which auto-locks the desktop if my mobile phone moves more than 10 feet from the PC, and unlocks it again automatically when I return, which I think is awesome for some reason.
* No viruses.
* Super secure and unf*ckupable once configured. I installed Ubuntu on my grans computer after she managed to get over two dozen viruses/spyware apps installed on the machine under XP.


Linux Cons:

* Filesystem will be pretty alien to people used to MS-DOS/NT based filesystems.
* Games don't run quite as well under Wine as they do under windows.
* Some commands require the user to muck about with command lines/console, which may seem intimidating to novice users.


These are pretty specific to Ubuntu/Kubuntu, as that's the distribution I currently have installed.





Windows Pros:

* Windows media center. I absolutely love this feature of vista and it's probably the only reason why I haven't upgraded my gaming PC back to XP. If linux's MediaPortal ever gets as good as Media Center I'll die a happy man.
* DirectX. Microsoft have admittedly done an excellent job of persuading developers to use their game development platform. This means that windows has a MASSIVE catalog of games developed for it. If OpenGL ever catches back up with DX in terms of features & ease of use for developers we'll hopefully see much more cross-platform gaming. Until then, windows is really the only choice when it comes to an OS for a gaming rig.


Windows Cons:

* Have to re-format every few months, as after a while windows slows to a crawl and takes an age to respond to anything you tell it to do.
* Vista's fancy effects require some pretty meaty specs to be run correctly.
* You Have to pay for windows.
* Every piece of software updates differently, if you wanted to update every bit of software on your machine to the latest versions it's take ages.
* Background processes rape your resources constantly. Want to install a new printer? sure, but lets install fifteen background processes while we're at it. Want to install a PDF viewer? sure, but lets force you to install a background process and yet another system tray icon as well.
* Viruses are pretty much exclusively developed for windows, so obviously windows has a greater virus/spyware risk.


These pretty much apply equally to all windows versions (with the exception of 2000, which I reckon was the most stable, secure Windows version of recent years.)

Codebox'd because it's probably tl;dr for most people.

[Maccabee]

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=434787

http://www.linux.com/

http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=626185

There's other distributions, my favorites are Mandriva, Ubuntu, and Kubuntu.

Also, wall of text:

CODE

Linux Pros:

* You can leave you're computer on for like a year and it'll still be just as responsive as when you first booted it.
* Looks prettier than vista whilst using massively less resources to provide the same kind of effects.
* Pretty much all software for linux is free.
* Linux itself is free.
* When I installed linux on my laptop I didn't need to locate a single driver for any piece of hardware everything was configured for me automatically.
* Linux is a piece of piss to get all your drivers and software updated. It's literally just a one click process to update all your software and drivers to the latest versions.
* Background processes don't rape your resources at all. I get much better battery life on Linux, as 99% of the time the CPU is at 0%
* I downloaded a 1Kb bash script which auto-locks the desktop if my mobile phone moves more than 10 feet from the PC, and unlocks it again automatically when I return, which I think is awesome for some reason.
* No viruses.
* Super secure and unf*ckupable once configured. I installed Ubuntu on my grans computer after she managed to get over two dozen viruses/spyware apps installed on the machine under XP.
Linux Cons:

* Filesystem will be pretty alien to people used to MS-DOS/NT based filesystems.
* Games don't run quite as well under Wine as they do under windows.
* Some commands require the user to muck about with command lines/console, which may seem intimidating to novice users.
These are pretty specific to Ubuntu/Kubuntu, as that's the distribution I currently have installed.
Windows Pros:

* Windows media center. I absolutely love this feature of vista and it's probably the only reason why I haven't upgraded my gaming PC back to XP. If linux's MediaPortal ever gets as good as Media Center I'll die a happy man.
* DirectX. Microsoft have admittedly done an excellent job of persuading developers to use their game development platform. This means that windows has a MASSIVE catalog of games developed for it. If OpenGL ever catches back up with DX in terms of features & ease of use for developers we'll hopefully see much more cross-platform gaming. Until then, windows is really the only choice when it comes to an OS for a gaming rig.
Windows Cons:

* Have to re-format every few months, as after a while windows slows to a crawl and takes an age to respond to anything you tell it to do.
* Vista's fancy effects require some pretty meaty specs to be run correctly.
* You Have to pay for windows.
* Every piece of software updates differently, if you wanted to update every bit of software on your machine to the latest versions it's take ages.
* Background processes rape your resources constantly. Want to install a new printer? sure, but lets install fifteen background processes while we're at it. Want to install a PDF viewer? sure, but lets force you to install a background process and yet another system tray icon as well.
* Viruses are pretty much exclusively developed for windows, so obviously windows has a greater virus/spyware risk.
These pretty much apply equally to all windows versions (with the exception of 2000, which I reckon was the most stable, secure Windows version of recent years.)

Codebox'd because it's probably tl;dr for most people.

Cool. Maybe ill do that thing where you run two processing system things on the same cp to test it out!
Does it run on more less ram and memory stuff than xp?

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Much less. Windows is a hell of a resource hogger.

Also: Dual boot.

[Maccabee]

Much less. Windows is a hell of a resource hogger.

Also: Dual boot.

So how can I run vista and kubuntu (which I have decided is my favorite linux thing) on the same computer?

[heyo-captain-jac...]

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-performance-...ot-kubuntu.html

I f*cking love Google.

Also: Just noticed, this should go in Technology.

[fameONE]

I don't like Windows at all. Being forced to use Windows while at work and dealing with the system crashes, viruses and lack of RAM due to 'windows essential applications,' just makes me dislike it even more.

I use Linux Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) as my main OS on my primary machine. Aside from it running smoothly, being extremely secure, more user friendly and visually appealing (making damn good use of my graphics card), I love the freedom to customize it to my liking. This particular distribution, along with a few others (all based on Debian), are particularly friendly for new Linux users.

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Feel free to PM me.

[Maccabee]

I don't like Windows at all. Being forced to use Windows while at work and dealing with the system crashes, viruses and lack of RAM due to 'windows essential applications,' just makes me dislike it even more.

I use Linux Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) as my main OS on my primary machine. Aside from it running smoothly, being extremely secure, more user friendly and visually appealing (making damn good use of my graphics card), I love the freedom to customize it to my liking. This particular distribution, along with a few others (all based on Debian), are particularly friendly for new Linux users.

click to enlarge

Feel free to PM me.

So I take it ubuntu is better than kubuntu?

And yes If i have any linux Q's ill pm u:)

[heyo-captain-jac...]

So I take it ubuntu is better than kubuntu?

And yes If i have any linux Q's ill pm u:)

Neither is better than the other. It's GNOME vs. KDE.

[fameONE]

It's a matter of preference. I've toyed around with KDE4 and it looks clean but it's still needs a few bugs worked out. I prefer Gnome and always have. It's easier for me to navigate.

[TOOLBAGSIRNUTS]

You really can't blame Vista itself if your computer starts getting slower with age. If you use a new computer for like five minutes and not touch it for five years it'll still work with the same speed it did when you started using it. It's the crap that you add on top of it that makes it slower. So if it's slow on your computer now, you'll probably do the same thing to your future XP installation and the same thing repeats all over again

I personally use Vista because I like using it. There's not much to say; I know how to use this operating system better than other ones and I don't feel like changing over to a Mac or a Gnome environment. I mean I know how to use the terminal in UNIX with the "rm -r /" and whatnot, but I would never use it on my own desktop; that's just silly

[firechild]

I still use XP.

It works fine for me.

[superstitious]

I don't have major issues with Vista, although if I had the time to really make a different choice, I'd go with something else. Vista seems to be limiting in user preferences, which really pisses me off. I still can't even get Object Dock to work. =/

[Maccabee]

Can someone kinda explain to me what exactly linux is? I dont really understand.
Or send me a link.
All i know is that its a free operating system. haha.

[heyo-captain-jac...]

Can someone kinda explain to me what exactly linux is? I dont really understand.
Or send me a link.
All i know is that its a free operating system. haha.

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Linux

[emberfly]

http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=Linux

LMAO you rock :D

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that site rocks too :D It's now being favorited :3

[mipadi]

Can someone kinda explain to me what exactly linux is? I dont really understand.
Or send me a link.
All i know is that its a free operating system. haha.

What do you want to know? Like Windows, it's an operating system -- that is, a piece of software that manages a computer -- but it's a lot different than Windows. Does that help?

I work as a systems administrator for a network of Linux-based research machines, and I've written software for Linux for a number of years, so I know a fair bit about it.

[superstitious]

I'm actually considering (don't laugh!) attempting to do a build from scratch type system. Nothing fancy, just something I want to do. So I've considered trying a window-less approach. I'll probably be picking some brains 6 months or so from now.

I'm still unclear as to how Ubunto (which is pretty appealing to me from what I've seen) will work with typical software, particularly gaming software.

Won't happen anytime soon though, thankfully. PS, sorry to hijack the thread, just reminded me of this (2009) goal. :)

[none345678]

I still use XP. I have been thinking bout going to Luinex. But XP has always been ok too me...

[mipadi]

As far as Windows goes, I don't see what all the gripes are about Vista. I actually kind of like it. It's not necessarily leaps and bounds better than XP, but I think it's still a pretty solid version of Windows. Of course, I only use it to play games, so maybe I wouldn't like it if I used it for daily tasks. I'm also running on relatively new hardware, so that helps. But yeah, I think it's okay...for Windows, anyway.