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gay marriages, UHHHH!!
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post Feb 20 2004, 10:28 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with homosexuality (is this right? Scientific term?) I thought the whole idea of marriages was the love one has for the other, right? I mean if they get married, its their choice. I don't see what's wrong about that.
 
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post Feb 20 2004, 10:33 PM
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hrmm ... i guess im against it. its bad enough w. those straight couples that have this strong urge to display their attraction foh each other ... but i think it would be just downright gross if i had to see gay/lez people doin that ... its just wrong. and extremely inappropriate foh lil kids tah see ... >.< ... but i guess it injustice foh the gay couples that can't get married ... violation of their rights ... soo ... ehh ... im against it anywayz .....
 
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post Feb 20 2004, 11:52 PM
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I don't get how some people are against it. What's wrong with a different choice of sexual attraction? Is there something wrong with seeing a guy with a guy? I mean, some people are prefectly fine with a girl with a girl. What's the big difference? If you decide to go one way, it's your choice. You can't chance what you prefer. How does it affect you? Just because you see it? It doesn't matter. It's their own free will and their choice of words/actions.
 
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post Feb 20 2004, 11:57 PM
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I don't get how some people are against it.

Different people. Different opinions. Different perspectives. _smile.gif
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 12:39 AM
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in the bible they talk about this in way, about homosexual marriage and love. I believe its in the book of Levituchus. the bible is against it.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 01:39 AM
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It's also in Romans and 1 Corinthians.

The Bible, however, also condemns women who speak out loud in church (also in Corinthians), and Ephesians glorifies slavery.

Times change.

Also... no one fully knows what the text is implying. Homosexuality back then was a different thing that it is now. It wasn't just a case of men with men, it was more along the lines of promiscuity and rape (ex: Sodom).

The Bible says a lot of things. I don't think you can take things out of context... not with this anyway.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 03:15 AM
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I'm for gay marriages because it is their business who they marry and banning gay marriages isn't going to stop gay relationships. Gay marriages is just a way for them to obtain the same rights heterosexual couples have. I believe there should be a fine line between all religions and state.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(pan50 @ Feb 20 2004, 10:16 PM)
i dont get it, cuz like THEM getting married is affecting YOU in anyway, unless they're publicly making out, except i KNOW that even when a guy and girl make out in ublic, and you walk past them then u feel a lil embarrased(totally spelt that wrong)

think. the purpose of getting married is because you love somebody. maybe have some children with them. that is the goal of us humans, reproduce so your genes live on in future generations and keep the human population growing. can a gay couple make children? NO. Is this healthy for the human race? NO. What would happen if this trend continued... if all of a sudden 10% of the population became homosexual, then 20% the 50%... human race would be on a decline. Scary thought huh?

not to mention that gay marriage is illegal. take a look at this.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/marriage.html

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In the English common law tradition, from which our legal doctrines and concepts have developed, a marriage was a contract based upon a voluntary private agreement by a man and a woman to become husband and wife.  Marriage was viewed as the basis of the family unit and vital to the preservation of morals and civilization.  Traditionally, the husband had a duty to provide a safe house, pay for necessities such as food and clothing, and live in the house.  The wife's obligations were maintaining a home, living in the home, having sexual relations with her husband, and rearing the couple's children.  Today the underlying concept that marriage is a legal contract still remains but due to changes in society the legal obligations are not the same.


however, the states do have a right to regulate this but allowing gay marriages goes against the definition of marriage. imagine, people getting married to animals, blow up dolls!!!

that's why it's wrong.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 05:15 PM
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i am opposed to gay marriages:

1. i think its wrong
2. its just gross
3. if you wanna live with your gay lover, just live with him/her...why do you hafta get a marriage license? its like the world is now "proclaiming" that they'll accept gay/lesbian practice to be a good thing.

...i've got friends who are gay/lesbian. i'm not saying that i don't like the people...i just don't like the ...concept...i guess

its like people who lie...i hate the sin, but not the people

its just my oppinion
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 21 2004, 9:12 AM)
imagine, people getting married to animals, blow up dolls!!!

Though I see your point, we are not talking about people marrying inanimate objects or animals. In gay marriages, there are two people getting married.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 07:33 PM
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I don't think it's very natural, but I hate people telling me what I do is stupid, bad, wrong, dumb ect. when it's something I like, believe, and think is fine. So I say, if it's what they want go for it.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 21 2004, 9:12 AM)
think. the purpose of getting married is because you love somebody. maybe have some children with them. that is the goal of us humans, reproduce so your genes live on in future generations and keep the human population growing. can a gay couple make children? NO. Is this healthy for the human race? NO. What would happen if this trend continued... if all of a sudden 10% of the population became homosexual, then 20% the 50%... human race would be on a decline. Scary thought huh?

A gay couple actually can have children with artificial insemenation. Procreation isn't the key purpose of marriage anyway. Actually, it might be for some people, but the KEY factor in marriage is love. Plenty of straight couples decide not to have children. And what about infertile (straight) women? Since she can't have babies, she shouldn't get married? What is that?
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 08:16 PM
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i think they have just as much riqhts as straiqht people should have so they should be able to qet married...i mean they are people to riqht? that just want to be happy.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 08:21 PM
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they love each other...so0o...it doesnt really matter
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 21 2004, 9:12 AM)
think. the purpose of getting married is because you love somebody. maybe have some children with them. that is the goal of us humans, reproduce so your genes live on in future generations and keep the human population growing. can a gay couple make children? NO. Is this healthy for the human race? NO. What would happen if this trend continued... if all of a sudden 10% of the population became homosexual, then 20% the 50%... human race would be on a decline. Scary thought huh?

not to mention that gay marriage is illegal. take a look at this.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/topics/marriage.html



however, the states do have a right to regulate this but allowing gay marriages goes against the definition of marriage. imagine, people getting married to animals, blow up dolls!!!

that's why it's wrong.

Ok sorry but that's a terrible argument. Marriage and reproduction have nothing to do with each other. Gay people dont reproduce naturally anyways so what does it matter if they can get married or not. And homosexuality is not a heritable trait. THeres been no studies that indicate homosexual parents produce homosexual offspring. I personally believe it to be a natural mutation/anomaly in the person's brain. Marriage is a human creation, and shouldn't be attached to nature. animals mate just as well in nature without marriage, which proves marriage is actually pretty superfluous in the greater scheme of things. It's not like if we legalize gay marriage straight people will stop marrying and stop reproducing.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(babii_x_melzz @ Feb 21 2004, 5:15 PM)
i am opposed to gay marriages:

1. i think its wrong
2. its just gross
3. if you wanna live with your gay lover, just live with him/her...why do you hafta get a marriage license? its like the world is now "proclaiming" that they'll accept gay/lesbian practice to be a good thing.

...i've got friends who are gay/lesbian. i'm not saying that i don't like the people...i just don't like the ...concept...i guess

its like people who lie...i hate the sin, but not the people

its just my oppinion

well..c if heterosexual people live together and them sometimes get married then why cant they right???...

and as for reproduction , some normal people get married and dont have children , i mean even gay people can adopt ....

yeah wellz everyone has their own opinion just that it kinda pises me off when some people cant let some other people be
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 10:20 PM
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I wouldn't even care. It's their way of life, and as long as it's no happening to me mellow.gif
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 10:52 PM
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Here's a reason to oppose homosexuality. 75% of AIDS patients are gay men. So much money is spent on AIDS research, yet some want the government to condone some of the behavior that plays a major factor in the spread of it.

That's the equivalent of sex education classes in school giving the nod to students to have unprotected sex. There'd be an outcry if that happened.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(LowesRacer2K3 @ Feb 21 2004, 10:52 PM)
Here's a reason to oppose homosexuality. 75% of AIDS patients are gay men. So much money is spent on AIDS research, yet some want the government to condone some of the behavior that plays a major factor in the spread of it.

So what you're saying is, if you ban gay marriages gay people will stop having sex and the AIDS epidemic is solved? And what about Africa and its current crisis. Is everyone in Africa with AIDS gay men? I believe you are skewing statistics that are not relavent to the argument.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 11:16 PM
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I didn't say gay people would stop having sex. I said the government should not condone that type of behavior. There's a major difference there.
That percentage stated is only of the western world.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 11:21 PM
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Do you believe in the 2nd amendment?
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 11:23 PM
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I believe in the 2nd ammendment, but it doesn't forbid the government from regulating the sale of arms.
 
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post Feb 21 2004, 11:28 PM
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So even though firearms kill thousands of people every year you still support it? People that support the 2nd amendment argue that its not guns that kill people, its people that kill people. the same can be applied to homosexuality. Being gay doesn't kill poeple. It's irresponsible unsafe sex that does. Blood transfusions also give people AIDS, should we not condone those?
 
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I didn't say I supported the 2nd ammendment, I said I believed it. It's in plain black and white, how can I deny it? It's the combination of guns and people that kill. An unarmed, man can't shoot somebody, can he? But on the other hand, an armed man in his right man will not shoot somebody. So what do you do? You do you best to make sure those who are most likely to kill stay unarmed. They'll most likely steal or buy a gun off the black market, but at least it wasn't done with the approval of the government.

Here's some statistics: http://www.infoforhealth.org/pr/l12/l12chap2.shtml

Both gay sex and unprotected sex is going to happen no matter what the law is. Both cause and spread the hiv virus and other STDs. Let's keep the government seal of approvoal off of it. People can still do it, it won't be illegal.

And as for blood transfusions, because of past mistakes, hospitals do a pretty good job of testing blood these days for problems.
 
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This is a common target for debate nowadays, especially since they've been banning gay marriage where it used to be legal.. Anyway.. I'm definitely not against it. I don't see the problem. It's just like a man and a woman getting married. They have the same affection and attraction towards each other, so why not?

People just aren't used to the idea of same sex marriage, so I can respect other people's opinions on why they oppose it.

I had this mock-list up on my site about gay marriage, and it had a couple of good points.. they're all sarcastic.. Here are a couple:

Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children.

Obviously, gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

Straight marriage will be less meaningful if Gay marriage is allowed, since Britney Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.

Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
 

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