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CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102/ Defining marriage, Surprised this never got mentioned here.
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post Oct 29 2008, 09:15 PM
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Surprised this never got mentioned here. CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102, and the whole defining gay marriage. With election coming up pretty soon, Prop 8 has been a big issue.

The argument is that Prop 8, amendment 2 and prop 102 will define that marriage between a man and a woman will be the only legal kind of marriage in California for prop 8, Florida for amendment 2, and Arizona with prop 102.

Some people argue that it has nothing to do with gay rights, or about gays in general
yet mention that if it doesn't pass parental rights, and religious freedom gets taken away.

Others mention that it does (take away gay rights), If the law passes Same sex couples will not be able to
1. Marry the person they love.
2. Those who are already married will lose the rights that come with it.


There is also the argument that Marriage is about love regardless of gender (Love is Blind).
yet others strongly believe that marriage is a religious, spiritual union between a man and a women.

To start a discussion here are several questions
1. what do you feel will happen if these laws passes and soon spreads to other states?
2. What do you feel marriage is, and should the idea of same sex marriage be allowed?
3. What do you think will happen to the children whose parents happen to be both male or female, If these laws passes what do you think will happen to the children?
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 02:23 AM
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^ exactly.

We are not forcing their lifestyles on anyone. If you read the supreme court ruling, you would know that.

YOU are forcing YOUR TRADITIONAL marriage definitions down all of our throats, excluding gays to vote.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 02:29 AM
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I cannot believe this shit passed.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 02:32 AM
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what the tiddly-winks. they passed prop 8?
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 02:34 AM
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tiddly-winks YOU CALIFORNIA
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 02:35 AM
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It hasn't officially passed yet. There are still a ton of votes that haven't been counted yet.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:08 AM
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WOOT WOOT! I hope they all pass.
But, the US is basically in a shit hole now that Obama is president and we are going to be rolling around in shit for the next 4 years... so what does it really matter now, right?

Obama will probably just overturn it anyway.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:08 AM
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God, just stop talking.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:12 AM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 5 2008, 01:08 AM) *
God, just stop talking.

Oh, its called freedom of speech.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:20 AM
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No shit.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 5 2008, 01:20 AM) *
No shit.

I just thought you may have forgotten, telling me to shut up and all. :)

Just tryin to help biggrin.gif
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:25 AM
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^ I can't take you seriously, considering you got an Edward Cullen avatar.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:26 AM
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QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 5 2008, 01:25 AM) *
^ I can't take you seriously, considering you got an Edward Cullen avatar.

lol
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:26 AM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 03:22 AM) *
I just thought you may have forgotten, telling me to shut up and all. :)

Just tryin to help biggrin.gif


Ummm

QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 4 2008, 11:59 PM) *
Oh God, shut up.



and Tung, nice edit ;)
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:27 AM
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QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 5 2008, 01:26 AM) *
Ummm
and Tung, nice edit ;)

Nice!
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 5 2008, 03:25 AM) *
^ I can't take you seriously, considering you got an Edward Cullen avatar.

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post Nov 5 2008, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 04:08 AM) *
WOOT WOOT! I hope they all pass.
But, the US is basically in a shit hole now that Obama is president and we are going to be rolling around in shit for the next 4 years... so what does it really matter now, right?


the US has been in a shit hole, where the hell have you been?
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 10:06 AM
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I am so so so very disappointed in California right now. stubborn.gif Wtf. Do you think there will be some kind of appeal or whatever because of the wording? A lot of people I talked to thought that by voting yes they were approving gay marriage.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 02:08 AM) *
WOOT WOOT! I hope they all pass.
But, the US is basically in a shit hole now that Obama is president and we are going to be rolling around in shit for the next 4 years... so what does it really matter now, right?

Obama will probably just overturn it anyway.

Go drink a glass of bleach.

I'll probably get warned for that and scolded by a mod to 'play nice.'

Go drink a glass of bleach.

Care to explain how President Obama is going to put the US in a shithole? You wouldn't dare imply that we were doing so well before election day, right?
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 04:08 PM) *
WOOT WOOT! I hope they all pass.
But, the US is basically in a shit hole now that Obama is president and we are going to be rolling around in shit for the next 4 years... so what does it really matter now, right?

Obama will probably just overturn it anyway.

the US has been in a shit hole for the past 8 years. Have you been living in Alaska with Sarah Palin?
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 01:22 PM
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Go drink a glass of bleach.

I'll probably get warned for that and scolded by a mod to 'play nice.'

Go drink a glass of bleach.

Care to explain how President Obama is going to put the US in a shithole? You wouldn't dare imply that we were doing so well before election day, right?

He's gonna take over and become a dictator! duuuuuuuh
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 12:08 AM) *
But, the US is basically in a shit hole now that Obama is president and we are going to be rolling around in shit for the next 4 years... so what does it really matter now, right?

We`ve been rolling around in shit for the past 8 years.

QUOTE(only-tuesdays @ Nov 5 2008, 07:06 AM) *
I am so so so very disappointed in California right now. stubborn.gif Wtf.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 01:52 PM
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i'm pretty surprised by the outcome
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 01:59 PM
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^ me too. first came shock, then came sadness.
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 02:02 PM
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I voted

Yes - Prop 8
No - Prop 4
 
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post Nov 5 2008, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(only-tuesdays @ Nov 5 2008, 10:06 AM) *
I am so so so very disappointed in California right now. stubborn.gif
They lets us down. Sucks. Pissed it passed. but good thing is that Obama won. Theres still hope. thumbsup.gif
 
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