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CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102/ Defining marriage, Surprised this never got mentioned here. |
Oct 29 2008, 09:15 PM
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Surprised this never got mentioned here. CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102, and the whole defining gay marriage. With election coming up pretty soon, Prop 8 has been a big issue.
The argument is that Prop 8, amendment 2 and prop 102 will define that marriage between a man and a woman will be the only legal kind of marriage in California for prop 8, Florida for amendment 2, and Arizona with prop 102. Some people argue that it has nothing to do with gay rights, or about gays in general yet mention that if it doesn't pass parental rights, and religious freedom gets taken away. Others mention that it does (take away gay rights), If the law passes Same sex couples will not be able to 1. Marry the person they love. 2. Those who are already married will lose the rights that come with it. There is also the argument that Marriage is about love regardless of gender (Love is Blind). yet others strongly believe that marriage is a religious, spiritual union between a man and a women. To start a discussion here are several questions 1. what do you feel will happen if these laws passes and soon spreads to other states? 2. What do you feel marriage is, and should the idea of same sex marriage be allowed? 3. What do you think will happen to the children whose parents happen to be both male or female, If these laws passes what do you think will happen to the children? |
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Blaqheartedstar CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102/ Defining marriage Oct 29 2008, 09:15 PM
dosomethin888 Well, Im going to go read the rest of "Eclips... Nov 3 2008, 02:12 AM
brooklyneast05 it might be a "fundamental reason" but t... Nov 3 2008, 03:32 PM
Reidar A technicality is a detail mattering only to the i... Nov 3 2008, 03:47 PM
brooklyneast05 this topic is about prop 8. if that somehow relate... Nov 3 2008, 04:01 PM
Reidar QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2008, 04:01 ... Nov 3 2008, 04:07 PM
paperplane QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 3 2008, 03:25 PM) 2.) ... Nov 3 2008, 04:55 PM
Reidar QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 3 2008, 04:55 PM) ... Nov 3 2008, 05:48 PM
paperplane QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 3 2008, 05:48 PM) Exce... Nov 3 2008, 06:40 PM
Reidar QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 3 2008, 06:40 PM) ... Nov 3 2008, 06:58 PM
dosomethin888 QUOTEThat site operates on circumstantial reasonin... Nov 3 2008, 05:19 PM
dosomethin888 QUOTEIt shows accuracy in regards to depicting a r... Nov 3 2008, 05:52 PM
Reidar QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 3 2008, 05:52 P... Nov 3 2008, 06:03 PM
coconutter I really hope this doesn't get passed, taking ... Nov 4 2008, 01:20 AM
dafto QUOTE(coconutter @ Nov 3 2008, 10:20 PM) ... Nov 4 2008, 01:23 AM
coconutter QUOTE(dafto @ Nov 4 2008, 03:23 AM) I ser... Nov 4 2008, 01:26 AM
dafto QUOTE(coconutter @ Nov 3 2008, 10:26 PM) ... Nov 4 2008, 01:35 AM
brooklyneast05 ^seriously tell me how taking kids to church is no... Nov 4 2008, 05:48 PM
TiffanyFactorial ^ exactly.
We are not forcing their lifestyles on... Nov 5 2008, 02:23 AM
paperplane I cannot believe this shit passed. Nov 5 2008, 02:29 AM
misoshiru what the tiddly-winks. they passed prop 8? Nov 5 2008, 02:32 AM
misoshiru tiddly-winks YOU CALIFORNIA Nov 5 2008, 02:34 AM
only-tuesdays It hasn't officially passed yet. There are sti... Nov 5 2008, 02:35 AM
dosomethin888 WOOT WOOT! I hope they all pass.
But, the US i... Nov 5 2008, 03:08 AM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 04:08 A... Nov 5 2008, 07:39 AM
fameONE QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 02:08 A... Nov 5 2008, 11:12 AM

paperplane QUOTE(fameONE @ Nov 5 2008, 11:12 AM) Go ... Nov 5 2008, 01:22 PM
misoshiru QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 04:08 P... Nov 5 2008, 11:27 AM
Janette QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 12:08 A... Nov 5 2008, 01:43 PM
paperplane God, just stop talking. Nov 5 2008, 03:08 AM
dosomethin888 QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 5 2008, 01:08 AM) ... Nov 5 2008, 03:12 AM
paperplane No shit. Nov 5 2008, 03:20 AM
dosomethin888 QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 5 2008, 01:20 AM) ... Nov 5 2008, 03:22 AM
paperplane QUOTE(dosomethin888 @ Nov 5 2008, 03:22 A... Nov 5 2008, 03:26 AM
dosomethin888 QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 5 2008, 01:26 AM) ... Nov 5 2008, 03:27 AM
Tung ^ I can't take you seriously, considering you ... Nov 5 2008, 03:25 AM
dosomethin888 QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 5 2008, 01:25 AM) ^ I ca... Nov 5 2008, 03:26 AM
Blaqheartedstar QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 5 2008, 03:25 AM) ^ I ca... Nov 5 2008, 03:56 AM
only-tuesdays I am so so so very disappointed in California righ... Nov 5 2008, 10:06 AM
Blaqheartedstar QUOTE(only-tuesdays @ Nov 5 2008, 10... Nov 5 2008, 02:25 PM
brooklyneast05 i'm pretty surprised by the outcome Nov 5 2008, 01:52 PM
Melissa ^ me too. first came shock, then came sadness. Nov 5 2008, 01:59 PM
Tung I voted
Yes - Prop 8
No - Prop 4 Nov 5 2008, 02:02 PM
misoshiru QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 6 2008, 03:02 AM) I vote... Nov 5 2008, 02:52 PM
misoshiru yeah kris! I think that a lot of the women at... Nov 5 2008, 03:40 PM
kryogenix Not to say that it's right, but I feel the rea... Nov 5 2008, 03:50 PM
cakedout im not a poli sci major, but wouldnt the passing o... Nov 5 2008, 05:43 PM
Reidar Not legally, because of how subjective the interpr... Nov 5 2008, 05:58 PM
cakedout QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 5 2008, 02:58 PM) Not ... Nov 5 2008, 09:59 PM
Reidar QUOTE(cakedout @ Nov 5 2008, 09:59 PM) ye... Nov 5 2008, 11:24 PM
cakedout QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 5 2008, 08:24 PM) Yes,... Nov 6 2008, 03:21 PM
Reidar QUOTE(cakedout @ Nov 6 2008, 03:21 PM) So... Nov 6 2008, 04:35 PM
cakedout QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 6 2008, 01:35 PM) The ... Nov 6 2008, 05:12 PM
coconutter WHY ARE THEY TAKING RIGHTS AWAY FROM CITIZENS
WHA... Nov 5 2008, 06:06 PM
Reidar This thing passed, yet Proposition 4 (parental not... Nov 5 2008, 06:48 PM
paperplane QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 5 2008, 06:48 PM) This... Nov 5 2008, 09:02 PM
Joss-eh-lime QUOTE(Reidar @ Nov 5 2008, 03:48 PM) This... Nov 5 2008, 11:53 PM
coconutter QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Nov 6 2008, 01... Nov 7 2008, 09:02 PM
Reidar QUOTE(coconutter @ Nov 7 2008, 09:02 PM) ... Nov 8 2008, 12:41 AM
xoxo_proud I can't believe this didn't pass. I was re... Nov 5 2008, 08:29 PM
Tung Yanlin, I was just kidding. I didn't even vote... Nov 5 2008, 09:12 PM
misoshiru QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 6 2008, 10:12 AM) Yanlin... Nov 5 2008, 11:10 PM
paperplane well, not quite...
but almost Nov 5 2008, 11:15 PM
Tung Hey don't judge me because I chose not to vote... Nov 5 2008, 11:17 PM
brooklyneast05 so, is this retroactive? what about all the gay co... Nov 7 2008, 08:36 AM
paperplane If it's retroactive, it will be found unconsti... Nov 7 2008, 02:31 PM
kryogenix I ask because I don't know, but was the initia... Nov 7 2008, 02:38 PM
brooklyneast05 speaking of constitutional, i don't understand... Nov 7 2008, 02:43 PM
cakedout QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 7 2008, 11:43 ... Nov 7 2008, 05:35 PM
paperplane QUOTE(cakedout @ Nov 7 2008, 05:35 PM) i ... Nov 7 2008, 05:48 PM

cakedout QUOTE(paperplane @ Nov 7 2008, 02:48 PM) ... Nov 7 2008, 05:49 PM
Reidar QUOTE(cakedout @ Nov 7 2008, 05:35 PM) i ... Nov 7 2008, 05:48 PM
kryogenix Some would argue that the constitution is absolute... Nov 7 2008, 03:51 PM
paperplane If it were too specific it wouldn't have laste... Nov 7 2008, 05:03 PM
brooklyneast05 oh, hmmmm. well, that's fucked up. especially ... Nov 7 2008, 05:40 PM
brooklyneast05 RE: CA's Prop 8, FL's amendment 2 and Arizona's prop 102/ Defining marriage Nov 7 2008, 05:51 PM
paperplane That's not my point, though. Heterosexual dome... Nov 7 2008, 05:55 PM
dafto 1. The marriages are definitely retroactive as the... Nov 7 2008, 11:19 PM
cakedout this arguement is useless, it will be legalized wi... Nov 10 2008, 06:27 PM
misoshiru the governator opposes prop 8
http://www.washingt... Nov 10 2008, 10:07 PM
vogueXdirge I don't know why people can't just live an... Nov 10 2008, 11:58 PM
Tung lmao @ cakeedout hellaaa proottecctivee ovv gayy R... Nov 11 2008, 07:10 PM
NoSex QUOTE(Tung @ Nov 11 2008, 06:10 PM) lmao ... Nov 11 2008, 07:14 PM
Janette Pretty much this. Nov 12 2008, 01:39 AM
NoSex QUOTE(Janette @ Nov 12 2008, 12:39 AM) Pr... Nov 12 2008, 03:04 AM![]() ![]() |