baggy pants ban unconstitutional Options

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MIAMI (AFP) – A Florida judge has deemed unconstitutional a law banning baggy pants that show off the wearer's underwear, local media reported Tuesday.

A 17-year-old spent a night in jail last week after police arrested him for wearing low pants in Riviera Beach, southeast Florida.

The law banning so-called "saggy pants" was approved by city voters in March after supporters of the bill collected nearly 5,000 signatures to put the measure on the ballot.

The teen would have received a 150 dollars fine or community service, but he spent the night in jail due to a history of marijuana use, the Palm Beach Post newspaper said.

"Somebody help me," said Palm Beach Circuit Judge Paul Moyle, before giving his decision.

"We're not talking about exposure of buttocks. No! We're talking about someone who has on pants whose underwear are apparently visible to a police officer who then makes an arrest and the basis is he's then held overnight, no bond."

"Your honor, we now have the fashion police," added public defender Carol Bickerstaff, who asked the law be declared "unconstitutional."

The judge agreed with Bickerstaff immediately, reported the Post.

Laws that ban low-slung pants are on the books in several US cities, including Delcambre, Louisiana, where offenders can be fined up to 500 dollars or jailed for up to six months.

Dallas, Texas and Atlanta, Georgia are among the larger US cities considering similar measures.

wtf

[Tung]

So what happens to rappers who sags?

[*paperplane*]

Yeah, they've been talking about that in Atlanta for a long time (though I thought the idea had been discarded a while ago). There was no way that shit was going to be constitutional.

[karmakiller]

Well, I guess if your pants are so low that you can be cited for indecent exposure... then the police might be able to get away with it.

[Geheroe]

...well, saggy pants are a stupid thing. I don' like them at all, and hate seeing people have their pants down to their knees.

I don't know if it should be worth going to jail or having to spend $500 to NOT go to jail .__.;

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Yeah, what would happen to all the rappers who sag!? >:U



Buhahahahaha.

[NgocQuyen]

Lmao, it's my first time coming back here in a long while, and I come back to this. That's pretty awesome. ^^
So does that mean they'll ban the mini skirts that girls wear that show their bums?

[The-March-Hare]

Well, I guess if your pants are so low that you can be cited for indecent exposure... then the police might be able to get away with it.

But the thing is, if all that is being exposed is underwear, how is that different than going commando in a pair of pants which aren't sagged, which isn't illegal?

[gelionie]

Yea, if they ban this, better ban everything else that is 'improper clothing'.

[karmakiller]

But the thing is, if all that is being exposed is underwear, how is that different than going commando in a pair of pants which aren't sagged, which isn't illegal?

Well, I suppose if they are going commando and wearing saggy pants...

I don't have as much of a problem with guys' boxers showing when they are wearing bagging pants as I do with girls who wear pants too low and show their thongs.

[anzbex]

LMAO!!! Ok i know this is a trend,which has been around awhile.In my opinion it looks terrible BUT what gets me is all these young fella's & "rappers" wearing their pants down so low thinking they look kool when in fact they don't know the true meaning of it.!! It in fact is a prison thing meaning that if you wear your pants low you are " available " if you get what i mean I laugh hysterically to myself each time i see the fools thinking they are hot!! And in New Zealand once told a young guy what it meant whilst i was walking home from work ..you should have seen his face.I never did see him with such low pants on again lmao.

Girls who wear pants too low and show their thongs.

Ohhhh & this i strongly agree with aswell!! Have some pride in yourself!! YUK!!

[Amaranthus]

It would seem as though this should be a joke.

[smoke]

LMAO!!! Ok i know this is a trend,which has been around awhile.In my opinion it looks terrible BUT what gets me is all these young fella's & "rappers" wearing their pants down so low thinking they look kool when in fact they don't know the true meaning of it.!! It in fact is a prison thing meaning that if you wear your pants low you are " available " if you get what i mean I laugh hysterically to myself each time i see the fools thinking they are hot!! And in New Zealand once told a young guy what it meant whilst i was walking home from work ..you should have seen his face.I never did see him with such low pants on again lmao.
Ohhhh & this i strongly agree with aswell!! Have some pride in yourself!! YUK!!

haha, I tell people that too. It's true.

I think it's rather disappointing that people haven't figured out how stupid they look. You would think that having to constantly pull or hold your pants up to keep them from falling down would get annoying after awhile.

As for the law, it's stupid. I don't even care that it's unconstitutional. It's just stupid. Why the hell is anyone worried about such a trivial matter? It's their right to look like a dumbass. Let them look like a dumbass. I think that's more than enough punishment, brought on by themselves.

[MilitaryFlower]

Not sure if this is news or debate and if its already been posted sorry.

Government doesn’t have the right to penalize folks for wearing saggy pants, a Florida judge ruled Tuesday. "Somebody help me," Palm Beach Circuit Judge Paul Moyle, said mockingly before delivering his decision.

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"We're not talking about exposure of buttocks. No! We're talking about someone who has on pants, whose underwear are apparently visible to a police officer who then makes an arrest and the basis is he's then held overnight, no bond."

The case involved a 17-year-old who was picked up and arrested in the southeast Florida community of Riviera Beach for wearing low pants.

In March, voters approved an initiative banning pants that hang off the butt. It was put to a vote after critics of the prison-spawned fashion trend collected the 5,000 signatures needed to get it on the ballot.

The youngster had to spend the night in jail, instead of paying a $150 fine and doing community service, because he had a prior history of marijuana use, according to The Palm Beach Post.

Riviera Beach isn’t the first city to rally against low-riding pants with zero-tolerance laws. Among the other cities instituting fines and/or jail time include Delcambre, La., where violators can be fined $500 and locked up for up to six months, Dallas and Atlanta.

During the court proceeding Tuesday, Carol Bickerstaff, the public defender representing the 17-year-old asked told the judge, "Your honor, we now have the fashion police" and asked the law be declared "unconstitutional." Moyle wasted no time in agreeing with Bickerstaff.

[Joanne]

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LMAO!!! Ok i know this is a trend,which has been around awhile.In my opinion it looks terrible BUT what gets me is all these young fella's & "rappers" wearing their pants down so low thinking they look kool when in fact they don't know the true meaning of it.!! It in fact is a prison thing meaning that if you wear your pants low you are " available " if you get what i mean I laugh hysterically to myself each time i see the fools thinking they are hot!! And in New Zealand once told a young guy what it meant whilst i was walking home from work ..you should have seen his face.I never did see him with such low pants on again lmao.
Ohhhh & this i strongly agree with aswell!! Have some pride in yourself!! YUK!!

@ him or anyone who actually believes that. This is incorrect and nothing but a myth to keep kids from sagging their pants. Sagging did originate in prison but has nothing to do with homosexuality whatsoever. To keep prisoners from committing suicide they weren't given belts thus their pants sagged and that is the truth.

[smoke]

@ him or anyone who actually believes that. This is incorrect and nothing but a myth to keep kids from sagging their pants. Sagging did originate in prison but has nothing to do with homosexuality whatsoever. To keep prisoners from committing suicide they weren't given belts thus their pants sagged and that is the truth.

In high school, my Criminal Justice class took a field trip inside a prison. We were actually walking among the prisoners, talking to them, and seeing how they live day to day. I learned that they even offer jobs inside the prison. They only make about 40 cents an hour though. It was a cool experience. Our group had body guards so it was a little nerve wracking at first, but no one ever bothered us. At one point we were taken into a room and got to ask questions. The warden and several prisoners were there to answer. A classmate asked that very question, about the baggy pants, and a prisoner told us that whole "system" is an unfortunate truth, and sagging pants is, in fact, a sign of availability. That was the first time I had ever heard of baggy pants being a sign of availability. The warden also commented that they issue clothes that fit for every prisoner so that there's no way anyone can stand out as individuals by the clothes they wear. For example, sagging pants. He also said prisoners get punished if they're caught showing any signs like that.

But, that's just what they said. Who really knows. I've never been to prison myself, other than that field trip, so I would have to take their word for it. It could differ from prison to prison.