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gay marriages, UHHHH!!
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post Jun 11 2004, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(Kitsune_black666 @ Jun 11 2004, 10:45 PM)
DO THEY BOTHER YOU!? If so, take a look around. I believe the last pool taken said at least 1 in every ten people were gay/lesbian. One of my closest friends is a lesibian. If you are bothered by gay marrages...leave this planet right now. They are people too. Give them credit where credit is due. boxing.gif If not, I'll fight you.

Fight me all you want.

But why shouldn't I disapprove of it?

Yes, homosexuals bothers me. I've seen two women kissing, and it bothered the heck out of me. It's a morality issue to me.

As for legalizing it, why do you approve of their marriage? Do you approve marriage for other groups of people (such as incest or teachers and students)?
 
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post Jun 12 2004, 07:07 PM
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I don't think there should be (well if they were christian) because it's against God's rules or something like that. But if they want to commit a sin, no problem with me. ermm.gif
 
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post Jun 13 2004, 08:32 PM
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I don't oppose because...

Marriage is about commitment, not race, religion, color, ancestry, age, physical disability or GENDER .. marriage is about LOVE . Not discrimination.
 
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post Jun 16 2004, 09:32 PM
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theres nothing wrong with it.... ppl r making a big deal out of nothing
y cant ppl mind their own business
 
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post Jun 16 2004, 11:30 PM
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I can't stay out of it because IT IS my business. All sorts of laws affect me, and therefore a law to legalize gay marriage means that it would affect me.
 
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post Jun 17 2004, 12:00 AM
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Doesn't matter...let them marry whoever they want. As long as it doesn't intervene in my life, it doesn't matter. How are gay marriages going to affect me?
 
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post Jun 17 2004, 12:11 AM
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Legalizing marriage means a change in the law. All laws affect us, directly, or non-directly.
 
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post Jun 25 2004, 02:21 AM
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I just got done watching True Life- I'm gay and getting married.

I was teary eyed just because of all the support the people had. It was so sweet. I hope one day in this World you can marry whoever you want whether they be male or female. I think that if you love someone you should be able to be with them forever. Just to know it's legal would just be amazing. In the Constitution you have the right to Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

If we have the right to the Pursuit of Happiness how come gays cannot get married?
 
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post Jun 25 2004, 02:49 AM
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well yeah i really no like dat....but i get gay frenz but shit they ku and yeah they only can piss me off if they touch me than imma bus out a can of wope asz...lol nah but i dont like it soo yups laugh.gif
 
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post Jun 25 2004, 08:58 AM
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First of all, homosexuality is perfectly lega. According to the Penguin World Atlas, the only countries that have laws against homosexuality are the countries in the Mid East other than Israel, Iraq, Turkey, and Kuwait. It is illegal in Bangladesh, Brunei, all of North Africa other than Egypt, most of Central Africa, and also in Nicaragua. The oly other places in the world where it is illegal are Massachusetts, Maryland, Virginia, North and South Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Minnesota, Idaho, and Utah. These laws, however, are antiquated and rarely enforced.
 
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 25 2004, 8:58 AM)
First of all, homosexuality is perfectly lega. According to the Penguin World Atlas, the only countries that have laws against homosexuality are the countries in the Mid East other than Israel, Iraq, Turkey, and Kuwait. It is illegal in Bangladesh, Brunei, all of North Africa other than Egypt, most of Central Africa, and also in Nicaragua. The oly other places in the world where it is illegal are Massachusetts, Maryland, Virginia, North and South Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Minnesota, Idaho, and Utah. These laws, however, are antiquated and rarely enforced.

we're talking about the morality of the issue though.
 
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post Jun 25 2004, 10:52 AM
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The way I see it homosexuality is not a moral issue at all. It's a lifestyle thing. "Moral" issues have to have some impact on others to judge whether it's more or not. Sex is not a moral issue. Morality only becomes involved when one or both parties are unable to consent or something like that hapepns.

I don't think homosexuality is moral or immoral. It's amoral, like brushing your teeth.
 
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post Jun 25 2004, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(illyria @ Jun 4 2004, 10:46 AM)
i totally agree!
i say mix the races! and mix the sexes!

Lol laugh.gif Yeah i agree!
 
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post Jun 25 2004, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(tainted_heavyn @ Jun 13 2004, 8:32 PM)
I don't oppose because...

Marriage is about commitment, not race, religion, color, ancestry, age, physical disability or GENDER .. marriage is about LOVE . Not discrimination.

ditto. even if its incest or school teachers and students, if its the person you truly love and want to be with your whole life, so be it. i saw a 12 year old boy marrying a 43 year old woman, hey if that makes them happy, so be it. that's why i believe in soulmates.
 
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post Jun 25 2004, 12:00 PM
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i dont see anything wrong with being gay and if u wanna get married then you go right ahead and get married biggrin.gif
 
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post Jun 25 2004, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(Mini @ Jun 25 2004, 11:35 AM)
ditto. even if its incest or school teachers and students, if its the person you truly love and want to be with your whole life, so be it. i saw a 12 year old boy marrying a 43 year old woman, hey if that makes them happy, so be it. that's why i believe in soulmates.

So... you would approve incest and student teacher relationships? ermm.gif What if it's your own children or your own child interested in his/her teacher? Or even your own child sexually interested in you?

But I do understand the concept of soulmates, but I can't imagine it happening in such an immoral (in my opinion) way.
 
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post Jun 26 2004, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(justbecausexx @ Jun 9 2004, 4:58 PM)
i'm not aganist it..but like why do you have to get married when all these people are aganist it. you can just not be married and still live together, you can do eevrything a married couple does. but there really is no need to get married when all these people will oppose you. well this is just what i think.

Yeah but when your tegether for your whole life and you have things that are "Yours" what happens when maybe your lover is sick in the hospital in like a room where only family members can go? They won't let you in because your not family. Then what happens when the person dies? You don't get their stuff the family does. What if the family will not give you their stuff? Then your screwed.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 09:09 AM
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ok, i know i'm new here but i have to bring something up in here which of course everyone else has brought up.

this is an opinion topic so so people have different views and don't have to agree with each other. i'm with the people who are FOR gay/lesbian marriages because like someone stated above, its about the LOVE and not the gender, sex, race, etc.

what if i said i was a 30 year old lesbian who wanted to get married? would i gross you out? if i do, then you are the 'gross' ones. if you can't accept gay or lesbian people then you must be out of your mind because hey, people cant help the way they feel.

if people arent attracted to people of the opposite sex, then they arent gonna 'make' themselves go for the opposite sex just to please the people who dont approve of their sexuality.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(floofies @ Jun 27 2004, 9:09 AM)
ok, i know i'm new here but i have to bring something up in here which of course everyone else has brought up.

this is an opinion topic so so people have different views and don't have to agree with each other. i'm with the people who are FOR gay/lesbian marriages because like someone stated above, its about the LOVE and not the gender, sex, race, etc.

what if i said i was a 30 year old lesbian who wanted to get married? would i gross you out? if i do, then you are the 'gross' ones. if you can't accept gay or lesbian people then you must be out of your mind because hey, people cant help the way they feel.

if people arent attracted to people of the opposite sex, then they arent gonna 'make' themselves go for the opposite sex just to please the people who dont approve of their sexuality.

but is it marriage? it doesn't fit the definition of marriage. so no marriage for you.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(floofies @ Jun 27 2004, 9:09 AM)
what if i said i was a 30 year old lesbian who wanted to get married? would i gross you out? if i do, then you are the 'gross' ones. if you can't accept gay or lesbian people then you must be out of your mind because hey, people cant help the way they feel.

I was okay with your opinion until you said that people who do not agree to gay marriages are "gross", that was contradictory and ignorant.

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinions. Being "grossed" out by sodomy and gay marriages is but an opinion/state of mind/feeling and such reaction doesn't demand the couple to change their sexual preference; it's not an action nor something to be carried out.

Anyhow, everyone who has something against people against gay marriages are freaking hypocrites and should look over their arguments.

All you people seem to say is that gays should be able to do what they want and have EQUAL rights as a human. WELL HELLO???? If gays should be able to DO what they want, the least you can offer to a straight female is for her to be able THINK as she wants.

Haven't any of you 'geniuses' everheard of "action speaks louder than words"?

While gays/lesbians are litterally doing immoral (in my opinion) things, all I can do is SPEAK my mind. Oh wow, lets be grossed out by mere opinions. Geez, get a backbone.

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if people arent attracted to people of the opposite sex, then they arent gonna 'make' themselves go for the opposite sex just to please the people who dont approve of their sexuality.


If people do not like the idea of gay marriages, then they aren't going to "make" themselves like the idea just to please people who don't approve of their opinions.

If you're going to believe in this "Freedom of rights" stuff, then be serious about it and give the same rights to everyone, not just a group of people.
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 27 2004, 10:09 AM)
but is it marriage? it doesn't fit the definition of marriage. so no marriage for you.

what?
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 27 2004, 10:25 AM)
I was okay with your opinion until you said that people who do not agree to gay marriages are "gross", that was contradictory and ignorant.

Everyone is entitled to his/her own opinions. Being "grossed" out by sodomy and gay marriages is but an opinion/state of mind/feeling and such reaction doesn't demand the couple to change their sexual preference; it's not an action nor something to be carried out.

Anyhow, everyone who has something against people against gay marriages are freaking hypocrites and should look over their arguments.

All you people seem to say is that gays should be able to do what they want and have EQUAL rights as a human. WELL HELLO???? If gays should be able to DO what they want, the least you can offer to a straight female is for her to be able THINK as she wants.

Haven't any of you 'geniuses' everheard of "action speaks louder than words"?

While gays/lesbians are litterally doing immoral (in my opinion) things, all I can do is SPEAK my mind. Oh wow, lets be grossed out by mere opinions. Geez, get a backbone.



If people do not like the idea of gay marriages, then they aren't going to "make" themselves like the idea just to please people who don't approve of their opinions.

If you're going to believe in this "Freedom of rights" stuff, then be serious about it and give the same rights to everyone, not just a group of people.

i only used the word 'gross' because i saw in previous posts that someone else used the word. they said something like 'eeww, gay marriages are gross' or something like that. i wouldnt normally use that word.

and if you don't mind, everything i said was my opinion. im sorry if it didnt sound that way
 
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post Jun 27 2004, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(floofies @ Jun 27 2004, 1:42 PM)
i only used the word 'gross' because i saw in previous posts that someone else used the word. they said something like 'eeww, gay marriages are gross' or something like that. i wouldnt normally use that word.

Aren't you trying to prove that you're the more mature person who is open minded and can accept gay marriages?

If you think that the person who used the word gross was wrong, why couldn't you just say so instead of accusing them of being gross as well. That proves nothing accept that you're as wrong as that person.

But I do understand that you used that word because you were offended and whoever said it wasn't very nice either.

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and if you don't mind, everything i said was my opinion. im sorry if it didnt sound that way


I understood perfectly that those words were your opinions, I was just giving you my own opinions about your post.
 
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post Jun 28 2004, 08:46 PM
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I hate to jump into these in the middle of debates. Could someone help me out on what points are being argued?
 
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post Jun 29 2004, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(ThunderEvermore @ Jun 28 2004, 8:46 PM)
I hate to jump into these in the middle of debates. Could someone help me out on what points are being argued?

Since I've read a lot of these posts, I'll sum up things a bit:

For: homosexuals deserve the same rights
Against: If homosexuals deserve the same rights as normal people, then all groups of lovers should have the same rights (ex: incest, student/teacher)

For: love shouldn't be discriminated
Against: Their love is immoral, with standards not only based on the Bible but also from non-religious perspective. If their love shouldn't be discriminated, then love from all sorts of groups shouldn't be discriminated.

For: not accepting them is being "closed-minded" and "gross", there's nothing wrong with being gay
Against: Not accepting everyone else's opinions is closed-minded and gross.

For: it's none of our business and they should be able to do what they want.
Against: It is very much our business, because laws affect society as a whole. While it may not affect us directly, but there are indirect effects.

I think that's mostly it. A lot of the arguments are repititive.
 

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