How Hip Hop has influenced other genres, o(-( Options

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

I always see messages of people who don't listen to hip hop but they're favorite artist is Justin Timberlake. But yet if you listen to all of his solo works , they're all hip hop beats. So if thats the case why is JT not considered at least R&B instead of Pop?


Not only this, but Rap inside the Hip Hop genre is the reason you're favorite artist has artistic freedom to say whatever he pleases. You should be thanking hip hop even if you don't like it. Or maybe you do like it but you're unaware of it. Especially if you turn your television set to America's Best Dance Crew.

Hip Hop has probably had the biggest influence on the American culture as well, more than you would like to believe.

I could elaborate more but I'm going to leave it at that.

[Melie]

Hip Hop has probably had the biggest influence on the American culture as well, more than you would like to believe.

this is very true and it's having such a huge influence in other genres as well like country and rock.

[brooklyneast05]

yeah i've known people who say they can't stand hip hop music, but then one of their favorite bands will be linkin park too.

i think a lot of people would like hip hop, but like you said, they are unaware. the majority of people i've ever met who have an irrational hate of hip hop don't even really know what they're talking about. they only hear whatever happens to be on the radio, and can't fathom that something else could exist that might be a bit different. for some reason some people can't grasp the concept of multiple "kinds" of hip hop, although they can understand that there are different kinds of every other genre that exists. that confuses me.


hip hop (as a genre & as a culture) has influenced so much, we couldn't even list it all out if we tried probably.

[mackenziee]

I looove hip-hop, pop, R&B, etc.
Not many of my friends do, though.

[moninja]

I always see messages of people who don't listen to hip hop but they're favorite artist is Justin Timberlake.

bahahaha, me too. i think it's funny. i absolutely love hip hip & rnb and everything else. most of the people i know just think hip hop is just rap. T_T

[Simba]

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It's funny 'cause when you look at hip hop's roots, it was hip hop that was sampling and borrowing from all the other genres.

[hi-C]

^ Jay-Z and a familiar British guy (from the UK original version of The Office) ? (referring to your sig, of course)

That's Ricky Gervais. I'm assuming that's from Gervais' show Extras, though =\

I always see messages of people who don't listen to hip hop but they're favorite artist is Justin Timberlake. But yet if you listen to all of his solo works , they're all hip hop beats. So if thats the case why is JT not considered at least R&B instead of Pop?

He also works with hip-hop producers, but that's besides the point. Mainstream music being what it is, the lines between hip-hop/pop/rock blur A LOT. Even though someone like Kanye West is decidedly hip-hop, the massive amount of appeal he has makes him a pop artist.

*votes most significant Music topic on cB of 2008

It's funny 'cause when you look at hip hop's roots, it was hip hop that was sampling and borrowing from all the other genres.

CO-SIGN.

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

this is very true and it's having such a huge influence in other genres as well like country and rock.

Yeah you're seeing more collaborations of rock and hip hop which is I think is cool.

yeah i've known people who say they can't stand hip hop music, but then one of their favorite bands will be linkin park too.

i think a lot of people would like hip hop, but like you said, they are unaware. the majority of people i've ever met who have an irrational hate of hip hop don't even really know what they're talking about. they only hear whatever happens to be on the radio, and can't fathom that something else could exist that might be a bit different. for some reason some people can't grasp the concept of multiple "kinds" of hip hop, although they can understand that there are different kinds of every other genre that exists. that confuses me.
hip hop (as a genre & as a culture) has influenced so much, we couldn't even list it all out if we tried probably.

I agree especially as a culture hip hop has changed so many perspectives as you mentioned it would be inconceivable to mention them all.

I looove hip-hop, pop, R&B, etc.
Not many of my friends do, though.

That means your swag is off the charts.

bahahaha, me too. i think it's funny. i absolutely love hip hip & rnb and everything else. most of the people i know just think hip hop is just rap. T_T

Yeah most people I see post think that Hip Hop only consists of rap but however do not realize there is far more to the hip hop genre than just music itself. And LOL @ Jay in the sig, where is that from?

^ Jay-Z and a familiar British guy (from the UK original version of The Office) ? (referring to your sig, of course)

Oh, and, yes KC I think someone, possibly even you have made a topic on this. I already knew. Of course, many genres of music have influenced other music. Why else are there so many different genres, beats, etc etc. If people didn't take little snippets from everywhere else, then all music would be a bore.

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It's funny 'cause when you look at hip hop's roots, it was hip hop that was sampling and borrowing from all the other genres.

So in the end hip hop as a music was influenced heavily by such things as soul , rock , etc. but then originated into its own style. The thing is people think Kanye started this sampling of soul artist however its been around for many years. Sampling is one of the best things to happen to music in my opinion and one of the unique aspects of hip hop. You can take a piece of a song and turn into a nice beat or you can use a voice as well for example:

Rap songs that sample other Rap songs
Tribe Called Quest - I Left My Wallet in El Segundo (Vampire Mix)” (Sampled Song)/ Lil Wayne - A Milli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMWVxVWeos...feature=related (this one shows how you actually get the a milli, pretty neat, best sample ever. )

Beastie Boys - Paul Revere (probably one of the biggest samples in hip hop, its been sampled countless times)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x-MRWZar0g
Kia Shine - Krispy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Vc_yXVyXw
Omarion - Damn (samples Paul Revere and Tipsy)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUMxaTxluEI
Rick Ross ft. Tpain - The Boss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iriq2tqhNBk

Jadakiss - Put Your Hands Up (Sampled Song/ I'll let you find the sampled part)
Birdman ft. Lil Wayne - Pop Bottles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH0McYv1pXI

Young Jeezy - I got Money (Sampled Song, again look for it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgXNsqvenEs
Kanye West - Can't Tell Me Nothing
youtube.com/watch?v=CY2Wv4zaGIU

Even though hip hop samples songs it also samples itself as well. Pretty neat huh.

Songs and Samples
Major Harris - I got Over Love (Sampled Song) <-- Im da best man I deed it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4RwlDzgBQM
Dipset - I really Mean It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh79atSxjt0

Chic - Will You Cry (Sampled Song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh5ZkyjsjA4
Nas - Just A Moment
youtube.com/watch?v=P7Z2ueL9kPk

Edgar Winter - Dying to Live (Sampled Song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfPy4KwuujE
2pac ft. Biggie - Running (Dying to live)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsx7XC5UC1E

Edwin Birdsong - Cola Bottle Baby (Sampled song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sklZ-f6Wstw
Daft Punk - Harder Better Faster Stronger (Samples beat)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgBgnoEY4iM
Kanye West - Stronger (Samples voice of Harder Better Faster Stronger)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRcd7chBY8c
We have a sample on top of a sample. And the strange thing about this one is people get upset that Kanye sampled this song from Daft Punk when Daft Punk is probably one of the kings of sampling. But Kanye can still make a hot beat without sampling I.E. - "Get Em High"

And I want someone to guess who sampled this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DoMQZPVHKY

That's Ricky Gervais. I'm assuming that's from Gervais' show Extras, though =\

He also works with hip-hop producers, but that's besides the point. Mainstream music being what it is, the lines between hip-hop/pop/rock blur A LOT. Even though someone like Kanye West is decidedly hip-hop, the massive amount of appeal he has makes him a pop artist.

CO-SIGN.

Even KRS-One says he considers Kanye to be more pop than hip hop.

[Simba]

Nice list of samples. *bows in the presence of greatness*

It's too bad there's a law against sampling now. Now you gotta pay clearances and ish. My broke phi broke self can't afford that ish. >:O

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

^ Jay-Z and a familiar British guy (from the UK original version of The Office) ? (referring to your sig, of course)

Oh, and, yes KC I think someone, possibly even you have made a topic on this. I already knew. Of course, many genres of music have influenced other music. Why else are there so many different genres, beats, etc etc. If people didn't take little snippets from everywhere else, then all music would be a bore.

How is it just everyday sound? Do you not here a certain uniqueness that a hip hop beat has compared to its samples. And Hip Hop isn't just music, its much more than that.

Nice list of samples. *bows in the presence of greatness*

It's too bad there's a law against sampling now. Now you gotta pay clearances and ish. My broke phi broke self can't afford that ish. >:O

Yeah I can understand why though. It would have been cool if artist gave credit to the artists they sampled but most just simply stole the beat. *cough* Timberland.

[Tung]

You do realize Hip Hop was highly influenced by Blues music right, from artists such as Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Ray Charles, Big Bill Broonzy, Sonny Boy, and B.B. King?

[hi-C]

And I want someone to guess who sampled this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DoMQZPVHKY

Oh shit. That's crazy. That's some crazy shit, how did Lupe or whoever did the beat discover that song?

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

You do realize Hip Hop was highly influenced by Blues music right, from artists such as Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Ray Charles, Big Bill Broonzy, Sonny Boy, and B.B. King?

Yes I do realize this, it was in my last post, or I could direct you to this site I been using for months which list the mp3s of sampled songs next to the sample. However when I say hip hop has had an influence on everything else I'm not just talking about the music. I mean did bboying and breakdancing orginate out of Blues also?

[hi-C]

You do realize Hip Hop was highly influenced by Blues music right, from artists such as Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Ray Charles, Big Bill Broonzy, Sonny Boy, and B.B. King?

Adding to that list James Brown, probably the most sampled artist.

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

Oh shit. That's crazy. That's some crazy shit, how did Lupe or whoever did the beat discover that song?

Not sure you want me to PM you to this site that has the shows which songs sampled which? I just don't want to post it here because a lot of blogs that have MP3s have been getting shut down lately.

[hi-C]

^ Sure, definitely. I'm always trying to figure out what's a sample and what isn't.

Speaking of samples websites, have you heard of the-breaks.com?

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

^ Sure, definitely. I'm always trying to figure out what's a sample and what isn't.

Speaking of samples websites, have you heard of the-breaks.com?

*PM Sent*

Nah I never heard of that site, I'm going to check it out right now.

edit// Hey I like this site, good find.

Also would like to add one of the greatest samples of our time probably.

Garden of Peace - Lonnie Liston Smith (Sampled song)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-n9pj1eAfk
Jay Z - Dead Presidents
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKU3Pb0Pw8k
Mary J - Take Me As I Am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmNCr51Ez4

[hi-C]

A sample I have to add, because it's not on that awesome site you sent me:

Jaco Pastorius, "Portrait of Tracy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBBG_2tPiOU

Real shit, right there.

[Simba]

I wanna see some downloads! >:D

[SuckDickNSaveLiv...]

A sample I have to add, because it's not on that awesome site you sent me:

Jaco Pastorius, "Portrait of Tracy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBBG_2tPiOU

Real shit, right there.

[Lil Wayne]Oh yeah I like that.[/Lil Wayne]

[incredibleupset]

yea check out some familyforce5. i don't listen to too much mainstream hiphop. alot of it is garbage.

[swan]

Good topic. Hip-hop has influenced different genres of music as different genres have influenced it.

All of this reminds me of the Hyphy movement.

[dannyordinary]

^ agree, all music genre's influence each other .
you've got pop artist working with hip hop producers, and
you've got all genres mixing it up .

it's a good thing, unless your some hardcore hip hop head .