How great is John Morrison? Options

[Murph-E]

http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=bq06N8FaSSI

How great is this guy? So f**kin' sexy. Great build, size, look. Amazing wrestler. Great high flier. Good technician. Has a great imagination. Awesome voice. Cool attire. Prediction: WWE Main Event breakthrough for 2009. At least I hope to God he is. He better make it, and not become another "wasted potential" like Shelton Benjamin, Sean O'Haire etc. Morrison CAN make it.

Dream. Love. Scream. MORRISON.

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Wrestling is retarded.

[pandamonium]

^ agreed.


and john cena and dwane johnson look a million times better that this guy. he look like the ugly porn start with a big schlong.


and hair needs to go, he looks like a dog trying to be one of charlie's angels.

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Wrestling is retarded.

That adds nothing productive to this topic.

The other reply is just typical blah blah blah.

Morrison FTW.

[ThunderEvermore]

The guy was a Tough Enough winner. He is in no way main event material. He's in ECW for god's sake.

[Murph-E]

Wrong, he didn't win Tough Enough, he was just a contestant.

And people can improve. Austin started off as the Ringmaster. The Rock was booed heavily as Rocky Maiavia. Hulk Hogan was fired from the WWF in his first run.

So yeah, Morrison will definitely be Main Event material. You can't hold back talent.

[ThunderEvermore]

Wrong, he didn't win Tough Enough, he was just a contestant.

And people can improve. Austin started off as the Ringmaster. The Rock was booed heavily as Rocky Maiavia. Hulk Hogan was fired from the WWF in his first run.

So yeah, Morrison will definitely be Main Event material. You can't hold back talent.

I'm sorry, did you just say wrong? Seriously, do your homework. I WATCHED Tough Enough. John HENNIGAN and Matt Cappotelli won Tough Enough 3.

Yes people can improve. Yes the Rock was booed, but that's because he was a HEEL. The Rock was pretty much a heel the entire time he spent with the WWE/F. Austin made his way to the big time through experience and hard work.

Johnny Blaze or whatever the hell they're calling him now has some moderate in ring talent, but that isn't all it takes. The kid's got no spark, no charisma, no personality. He's no Rock, Stone Cold, and certainly no Hollywood. Yeah, he'll go on to win the ECW championship a couple more times probably, and maybe even hold the IC title again. But he's not world champ material. At least not in the near future. Considering the talents still on currently and how many years they can stay on, namely guys like Batista, Edge, John Cena, etc. You're looking at a long ways before a slot opens up in the A-list for a guy like Morrison.

[Murph-E]

I'm sorry, did you just say wrong? Seriously, do your homework. I WATCHED Tough Enough. John HENNIGAN and Matt Cappotelli won Tough Enough 3.

Yes people can improve. Yes the Rock was booed, but that's because he was a HEEL. The Rock was pretty much a heel the entire time he spent with the WWE/F. Austin made his way to the big time through experience and hard work.

Wow, there's so much wrong with that. First off, the boos started for him when he was Rocky Maiavia, a FACE, and a really irritating one. Thus, he turned heel, for no reason other than he was being booed already.

Also, The Rock was heel MOST of the time? WTF?
November 1996-June 1997: Face (all be it he got booed a lot)
June 1997-September 1998: Heel (all be it he got cheered a lot)
September 1998-November 1998: Face
November 1998-April 1999: Heel
April 1999-August 2002: Face
(Return)February 2003-April 2003: Heel
All other appearances: Face

So to say he spent most of his time as heel is ridiculous. Especially considering his most memorable and successful run was April 1999-August 2002, as a face.

Johnny Blaze or whatever the hell they're calling him now has some moderate in ring talent, but that isn't all it takes. The kid's got no spark, no charisma, no personality. He's no Rock, Stone Cold, and certainly no Hollywood. Yeah, he'll go on to win the ECW championship a couple more times probably, and maybe even hold the IC title again. But he's not world champ material. At least not in the near future. Considering the talents still on currently and how many years they can stay on, namely guys like Batista, Edge, John Cena, etc. You're looking at a long ways before a slot opens up in the A-list for a guy like Morrison.

No charisma? That's just plain WRONG. He has plenty of charisma. He's extremely innovative and creative, and comes up with a lot of original stuff. And how can I take you seriously if you don't even use his correct name?

Look at the current World Heavyweight Champion: CM Punk. Morrison is a hell of a lot more charismatic, and a better wrestler.

Perfect example of Morrison charisma, where he is BIG over with the crowd:
http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=fqSgJsYWBVs

[ThunderEvermore]

The Shaman of Sexy? The Guru of Greatness? Hahaha oh my God this kid is trying way too hard to be Chris Jericho. He's even got the accent going on. Albeit it's been a while since I've watched WWE let alone ECW, but I have to admit the kids gained at least some sort of personality since I last saw him on Raw where he was worthless, even if that personality is stolen. And I only use a name he's used as a wrestler on WWE, his first name if I remember correctly.

Not that you're old enough to remember most of his early work, but the Rock got a healthy helping of boos, even when he was a face. And most of his face time was just a set up to become a heel. Take, for instance, his time feuding with McMahon before he won his first WWF Championship. IMMEDIATELY after he joins the Corporation and becomes exactly what he'd been berating in the months beforehand. And lets not forget his turn as a member of the NOD, which was pretty much what catapulted his career.

[Murph-E]

The Shaman of Sexy? The Guru of Greatness? Hahaha oh my God this kid is trying way too hard to be Chris Jericho. He's even got the accent going on. Albeit it's been a while since I've watched WWE let alone ECW, but I have to admit the kids gained at least some sort of personality since I last saw him on Raw where he was worthless, even if that personality is stolen. And I only use a name he's used as a wrestler on WWE, his first name if I remember correctly.

Not that you're old enough to remember most of his early work, but the Rock got a healthy helping of boos, even when he was a face. And most of his face time was just a set up to become a heel. Take, for instance, his time feuding with McMahon before he won his first WWF Championship. IMMEDIATELY after he joins the Corporation and becomes exactly what he'd been berating in the months beforehand. And lets not forget his turn as a member of the NOD, which was pretty much what catapulted his career.

You've just said what I said already. If you'll look at the dates I've given, you've just filled in what he was doing in that time, which I already know in incredible detail, just didn't feel the need to spell it all out.

And look at the original heel Jericho character in WCW. He was a loser who wanted to be successful. Trying to bear Goldberg, getting crappy pyro and constantly underrated. Morrison is none of those. He's pushed as a real deal (or was for a while, now he's one half of the best tag team this Century).

And his very first face run, aka the start of his career, was not to set him up as a heel. He just didn't get over, that simple. So yeah, obviously when he joined the Nation, vented his frustration and threw in some comedy, he ironically got over.

You seem to be one of these people who doesn't want new stars to be pushed because you're unfamiliar with them. That's such a WCW problem. The WWE have always pushed and created new stars, and if they're smart, which they are, they'll make Morrison a Main Eventer within the coming years.

Also, why do you differentiate WWE and ECW? WWE own ECW now. It's just a third brand of WWE, only with the "ECW" name. Nothing at all like the original ECW. It's still a decent brand, though. Just shouldn't be named ECW.

[ThunderEvermore]

The original ECW was pretty wicked, if I do say so.

At any rate I differentiate between the three brands because there has always been a hierarchy of talent levels when it came to Raw, Smackdown, and ECW. Unfortunately ECW is on the bottom of the ladder. Morrison has the likes of Big Daddy V and the Boogeyman as competition. As with all the brands, however, there is a sprinkling of decent talent, such as Matt Hardy and...uh...Chavo is alright.

At any rate, I don't mind new talent. Like I said I haven't watched a lot recently so I don't know all who is up and coming, but I was and am a huge fan of John Cena when he was the "Poster Boy for Ruthless Agression", loved Shelton Benjamin as he became the only man to beat every member of Evolution, and am constantly surprised by how much I actually like Carlito. I just never liked, and continue to not like John Morrison. I don't see him as a serious hall of fame type main eventer. I don't see him taking on the likes of HHH and John Cena.

Then again I said the same thing about Edge.

Although I am mortally offended by the statement "best tag team this Century". Never will John Morrison and The Miz be considered the best. With hall of famers to compare against, I'm sorry but they're not even in the top 20.

EDIT: I just now realized that by century you might be meaning the 21st century and not the last 100 years. Although that does eliminate a good portion of competition, I'm still not convinced they outrank the likes of the Hardy Boyz, Dudley Boys, and even Edge and Christian.

[Murph-E]

The original ECW was pretty wicked, if I do say so.

At any rate I differentiate between the three brands because there has always been a hierarchy of talent levels when it came to Raw, Smackdown, and ECW. Unfortunately ECW is on the bottom of the ladder. Morrison has the likes of Big Daddy V and the Boogeyman as competition. As with all the brands, however, there is a sprinkling of decent talent, such as Matt Hardy and...uh...Chavo is alright.

At any rate, I don't mind new talent. Like I said I haven't watched a lot recently so I don't know all who is up and coming, but I was and am a huge fan of John Cena when he was the "Poster Boy for Ruthless Agression", loved Shelton Benjamin as he became the only man to beat every member of Evolution, and am constantly surprised by how much I actually like Carlito. I just never liked, and continue to not like John Morrison. I don't see him as a serious hall of fame type main eventer. I don't see him taking on the likes of HHH and John Cena.

Then again I said the same thing about Edge.

Although I am mortally offended by the statement "best tag team this Century". Never will John Morrison and The Miz be considered the best. With hall of famers to compare against, I'm sorry but they're not even in the top 20.

EDIT: I just now realized that by century you might be meaning the 21st century and not the last 100 years. Although that does eliminate a good portion of competition, I'm still not convinced they outrank the likes of the Hardy Boyz, Dudley Boys, and even Edge and Christian.

But those teams all started in the 90's. I mean teams MADE this millennium.

And I'm still 100% determined that John Morrison will be a Main Event star one day. He just has EVERYTHING.