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illegal immigrants, should something be done?
poisonedxivy
post Jun 19 2004, 03:41 PM
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i guess the issue on illegal immigrants is becoming more apparent than before. what do you guys think? should something be done to stop this or should something be done?


personally i think the government NEEDS to crack down on these people. its unfair if dishonest people cross the border line or reside in america for a longer period of time than allowed.
 
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post Jun 19 2004, 04:06 PM
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The government then needs to crack down on all illegal immergrants, because they will allow cubans in but they will turn away those from Hati. Personally i am fine with illegal immergrants because they aren't hurting me and are helping the economy so...
 
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post Jun 20 2004, 11:04 AM
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i dont think anything should be done actually



i believe the world should be this little grassland and the lions and bears and blacks and whites and asians, ect all run free with the wind.


like pochahontas =]
 
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post Jun 20 2004, 12:32 PM
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no i dont think anything should be done

its helping our economy
 
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post Jun 20 2004, 08:33 PM
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We should concentrate on fighting terrorism, not immigration. Oepn borders more and scan more.
 
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post Jun 20 2004, 09:03 PM
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As long as they speak english I don't care, but it annoys me to no end when someone that's been immigrated here for say 10 years and still can't speak a word of English!!
 
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post Jun 21 2004, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 20 2004, 5:33 PM)
We should concentrate on fighting terrorism, not immigration. Oepn borders more and scan more.

i guess thats a nice way to look at it. considering those open borders allow terrorists to come into america more easily. the "scan more" part isn't gonna happen since we have more pressing things to worry about as of now. such as the situation in iraq.
 
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post Jun 21 2004, 02:20 PM
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I think illegal immigration is fine I guess. It is helping our economy and stuff...
 
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post Jun 21 2004, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE(poisonedxivy @ Jun 21 2004, 1:55 PM)
i guess thats a nice way to look at it. considering those open borders allow terrorists to come into america more easily. the "scan more" part isn't gonna happen since we have more pressing things to worry about as of now. such as the situation in iraq.

I disagree. Closed borders take resources away from terrorism-fighting and put them into immigration-fighting, whereas open but scanned borders let us watch closer. The War on Iraq is a distraction and will cause more terrorism anyway.
 
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post Jun 23 2004, 09:48 AM
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illegal immigration is something that is keeping our country running...
 
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post Jun 23 2004, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(m@dcow @ Jun 23 2004, 9:48 AM)
illegal immigration is something that is keeping our country running...

no. it isn't. legal immigration helps, not illegal immigration.
 
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post Jun 23 2004, 10:52 AM
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What's the difference? A piece of paper.

We should abolish welfare. That way, only hard working immigrants that help the economy will enter the country. All the parasites will have no reason to enter our country. Best solution there.
 
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post Jun 23 2004, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 23 2004, 10:52 AM)
What's the difference? A piece of paper.

We should abolish welfare. That way, only hard working immigrants that help the economy will enter the country. All the parasites will have no reason to enter our country. Best solution there.

Plus no tax money to waste on welfare programs either. A win win situation!
 
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post Jun 23 2004, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(JlIaTMK @ Jun 20 2004, 12:32 PM)
no i dont think anything should be done

its helping our economy

i'M with her.
 
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post Jun 23 2004, 03:47 PM
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no i dont think anything should be done

its helping our economy

It's also preventing legal americans from obtaining jobs. if the government cracked down on this, then companies would have to hire americans rather than illegal immigrants.
 
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post Jun 23 2004, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 23 2004, 12:35 PM)
Plus no tax money to waste on welfare programs either. A win win situation!

Exactly.

Cracking down on immigration is only going to violate civil liberties, have no effect whatsoever on the economy, and we're still left with the problem of an overbloated welfare state.

We need to tackle the root of the problem, and that is government entitlement.
 
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post Jun 23 2004, 06:43 PM
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It's also preventing legal americans from obtaining jobs. if the government cracked down on this, then companies would have to hire americans rather than illegal immigrants.


It is not preventing legal Americans from getting jobs. Becuase the jobs that illegal immergrants do are jobs that americans consider lowly. These lazy Americans would apply for the job in the first place. Illegal immergrants do the jobs that Americans feel that they are too good to do.
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 23 2004, 6:43 PM)
It is not preventing legal Americans from getting jobs. Becuase the jobs that illegal immergrants do are jobs that americans consider lowly. These lazy Americans would apply for the job in the first place. Illegal immergrants do the jobs that Americans feel that they are too good to do.

I totally agree _smile.gif
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 23 2004, 6:43 PM)
It is not preventing legal Americans from getting jobs. Becuase the jobs that illegal immergrants do are jobs that americans consider lowly. These lazy Americans would apply for the job in the first place. Illegal immergrants do the jobs that Americans feel that they are too good to do.

me too. happy.gif like being a maid.
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 07:46 PM
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"Illegal immigrants have always been a problem here. Just ask any Indian."
--Robert Orben
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 23 2004, 6:43 PM)
It is not preventing legal Americans from getting jobs. Becuase the jobs that illegal immergrants do are jobs that americans consider lowly. These lazy Americans would apply for the job in the first place. Illegal immergrants do the jobs that Americans feel that they are too good to do.

Are you saying working at Walmart is a lowly job? Walmart has been accused of hiring illegal immigrants. If the government would crack down on this, Walmart would be forced to hire legal americans.
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE(dasturbd @ Jun 20 2004, 10:03 PM)
As long as they speak english I don't care, but it annoys me to no end when someone that's been immigrated here for say 10 years and still can't speak a word of English!!

You offend my parents. sad.gif
Well, does it really matter? It's not really affecting many people.
Yea, Walmart hired illegal immigrants for a lower price. If they hired for equal price, there would be no major motivation for the immigrants.
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 08:10 PM
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yo dont be fricking racist, think about being in their shoes, it aint their fault, u try being one of them, they have no other choice, its either that or die

plus we cant make them leave cuz than i would have to go 2... whistling.gif shifty.gif
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 08:23 PM
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but its been proven that immigrants work harder than the average american
 
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post Jun 24 2004, 08:47 PM
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How do you prove something like that ... exactly?

If I focus and type a paper in one hour and then partied for three hours, did I work more hard or less hard than someone who types the same paper in four hours while relaxing with drinks and music?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377744/board/nest/8316385
 
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