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[freeridefight]

The fact that people are always bitching about how we have horrible politicians, but isn't it us who elect them? Should one person or group of people choose our government, or continue the way we have been and let the people choose?

[brooklyneast05]

i duno if it's that accurate to say we choose them completley, look at the democratic party and their super delegates. also us electing politicians doesn't mean we shouldn't bitch when they do things like throw us into unnecessary wars.

no i don't think one person (lolwtf?) should choose them. i think it should continue to let the people vote.

[jesusisthebestth...]

The point is whether we have one person choose politicians for the citizens or allow the citizens to choose politicans themselves we will always have someone complaining because no government is absolutely perfect. Should things remain the same in the U.S. elections? No. They're a pain, there are too many, there are too many requirements, etc. But what do you propose we do to silence the public outcry? You can't please everyone everytime.

[NoSex]

The fact that people are always bitching about how we have horrible politicians, but isn't it us who elect them?

Because of the internalized election process, and because of the two-party system, to say that anyone truly "chooses" their government representatives is quite arbitrary. When a psychotic mugger offers you the barrel of a gun or the release of all your immediate material good, you couldn't possibly fabricate such an instance as a free "choice." In the case of American politics, it isn't quite different. An institution nominates two major candidates (which receive an obnoxious majority of all media coverage) within that institute's (and the infrastructures' that inform it) own self-interest. Then, the American public is permitted to vote for the puppet on the left, or the puppet on the right. Which side of the same shit coin would you like?

[datass]

Should one person or group of people choose our government,

and how would that comply with the majority and the minorities views? that's the thing about democracy, you get to choose your leader, but when their time is up, you get to not choose them. you make the decision, that's what it is. not a group of people.

by the way, you have the thoughts of mao tse tung. no kidding at all. go read some history books.

[freeridefight]

and how would that comply with the majority and the minorities views? that's the thing about democracy, you get to choose your leader, but when their time is up, you get to not choose them. you make the decision, that's what it is. not a group of people.

by the way, you have the thoughts of mao tse tung. no kidding at all. go read some history books.

wait was that supposed to be insulting.

I am merely pointing out that today's American public seem not to be able to pick a right person to run their government.

[datass]

well it really depends on what you think. maybe if you support maoism you wont think thats insulting

[NoSex]

well it really depends on what you think. maybe if you support maoism you wont think thats insulting

[synatribe]

Our votes are pretty much not choosing the president, the electoral college is, even if 60% of california voted for obama, it all depends on the electoral college they usually listen to the people though, like wilson, he was a minority president, meaning, he only got 41% of the popular votes "(our votes) but won by the electoral college. Unless your talking about the 17th amendment, the direct election of senators.

[dosomethin888]

Part of the problem is that few people vote in local elections. They only pay attention to the presidential election.

[brooklyneast05]

Part of the problem is that few people vote in local elections. They only pay attention to the presidential election.

finally something we agree on

[Comptine]

Even in the event that 100% of the people choose the same person to be president, that person might not necessarily stick to his/her campaign or end up screwing things badly.

People choose the person they THINK would do a good job. Not someone they KNOW for sure can do a good job.

[NoSex]

People choose the person they THINK would do a good job. Not someone they KNOW for sure can do a good job.

barely.
TWO PARTY SYSTEM.
people choose who they are told they should think would be able to do a good job. in reality, there are millions of people who qualify & thousands that register for the opportunity. most people are only aware of two.

Because of the internalized election process, and because of the two-party system, to say that anyone truly "chooses" their government representatives is quite arbitrary. When a psychotic mugger offers you the barrel of a gun or the release of all your immediate material good, you couldn't possibly fabricate such an instance as a free "choice." In the case of American politics, it isn't quite different. An institution nominates two major candidates (which receive an obnoxious majority of all media coverage) within that institute's (and the infrastructures' that inform it) own self-interest. Then, the American public is permitted to vote for the puppet on the left, or the puppet on the right. Which side of the same shit coin would you like?

[superstitious]

^ Something I've often found funny, maybe ironic from certain perspectives is that if you don't vote for either of the major "two", it's considered a throw away vote. So, not only are you a deemed a social "fool" for not voting for what has been predetermined as two choices, because there are so many that are frightened of not being in the know (ie, major candidate support stickers, bragging "I READ CNN" rights, etc), it's hardly something I'm ever going to be completely optimistic about.

I'll just admit it right now, I've submitted several "throw away" votes in my lifetime and I'm not at all ashamed. I'd rather have been honest than to have voted based on what the "majority" determines how I should vote.

[illriginal]

The fact that people are always bitching about how we have horrible politicians, but isn't it us who elect them? Should one person or group of people choose our government, or continue the way we have been and let the people choose?

Problem is that people can easily be fooled. No one in present time can see into the future and know what's truly going to come. And plus out of McCain and Obama... there was only the choice of lesser evil.

But whatever, I'm almost out of this country for ever so I don't care anyways