Hell.... Is it real?, Yes or no?... Listen to this. Options

[illriginal]

ok honestly I think this is too fake, why? first of all 14.4 kilometers isnt the size of a penis, I dont think mics can go that low, secondly the man said it was 2000 degrees, metal obejects burn at 200 degrees, and Im sure that the mic melted before getting even halfway, another thing is 19 seconds is too long for a mic to survive in 2000 degrees, think about it , a volcano averages 1150 - 1350 degrees and if you put a mic in a volcano, it dosent even last a millisecond, let alone an entire 19 seconds, also the siberian scientist recorded exactly 19 seconds, how come there was no mic melting sounds? Also that sound is really easy to recreate if you took the time, that just sounds like a nazi camp with people beating the Jews [edited], also in the second email how do u know "RICK" isnt fake? the sender of the email? how come the video never shows the email? how do u know its not a script, Im not trying to offend anyones religion but I dont think people should fall so fastly, especially only after 2 videos, you never know what this society is capable of manipulating

Well that's the point of puttin this up into debate... to get an idea from the crowd as a whole whether it's true or not. I do agree though with what you mentioned in terms of metal melting, it would be foolish of me to go even deeper by sayin, "well what if they used a metal of which could withstand". But again as I've stated, I don't claim this to be fact... I just want to know what you guys think.

[synatribe]

Well that's the point of puttin this up into debate... to get an idea from the crowd as a whole whether it's true or not. I do agree though with what you mentioned in terms of metal melting, it would be foolish of me to go even deeper by sayin, "well what if they used a metal of which could withstand". But again as I've stated, I don't claim this to be fact... I just want to know what you guys think.

yea, I dont think hell is fake, just these videos LOL :]

[Marlons]

Damn man. Creepy shit.

[NoSex]

If he hasn't, then China does not exist.

Solipsism isn't cool.

[Reidar]

It is when acting as blatantly obvious causticity.

[illriginal]

It is when acting as blatantly obvious causticity.

-.- He does this with all my posts no matter how contradicting it is to his views in the first place, there's always an excuse given and that makes him right every time (in his own mind)

[Reidar]

I didn't take that seriously, nor did he intend for me to. I'm (unfortunately) a few centuries too late for someone to earnestly believe me insinuating that the Russian president's secret alter-ego is a Hell-spawned bat creature.

Hm. That actually doesn't sound too farfetched, after rereading it.

[EddieV]

Heaven and Hell, if described in the literal sense is not part of the Earth but another dimension. Otherwise everytime we fly to space we'd see angels and our dead family members.

I can blast people to another dimension as well.

[illriginal]

Heaven and Hell, if described in the literal sense is not part of the Earth but another dimension.

What's your reference?...

[EddieV]

None, it's my own opinion on it. I don't care what everyone else thinks. Read my creed.

[illriginal]

None, it's my own opinion on it. I don't care what everyone else thinks. Read my creed.

Then what's the point of Daniel/Satan being thrown into the center of earth before earth was fully developed?

[EddieV]

Like I said, it may not be literal.

[illriginal]

Like I said, it may not be literal.

hm.. I was thinkin if it was literal from what I've understood, that then hell would actually be in the center of hell, not in another dimension, which is also plausible.

[NoSex]

So I assume you don't believe in UFOs?... heh.

I believe that there are phenomena that we might not fully understand right now - however, I don't believe that intra-stellar space aliens is any sort of explanation.

And you want me to read books that'll try to convince me into abolishing God from my faith, and use human logic and reasoning through their philosophy as some sort of proof? Why would I read human philosophy take that thought or philosophical view as fact and disregard the very words of God... that's just twisted in my opinion.

Or it could simply be that these philosophers who are tryin to push God away from the people are just doin the work of satan... I mean since this is the point of satan's existence. To not depend on a God of any sort because it doesn't exist...

How about you sincerely read them and honestly attempt a critique? All of this posturing just makes you look like a fat-headed psychopath. You so easily assume that the existence of god is real and that you are informed of such by the supposed "word of god," and, because of the fervor and zeal that you hold this opinion, you almost completely refuse to even consider alternative ideas. It's not, as you profess it to be, enlightening. Haven't you ever considered that you might be wrong?

At the same time you tell me to learn the other side of things, I would recommend you take a close look into the disclosure/investigative reports about UFOs that were just recently released on CNN.

I've read a good deal about the paranormal and UFOs in specific. I've come from a world of strangeness, where John Keel was a believable sort of guy. I'm not ignorant to these ideas, just as I am not ignorant to the ideas of religiosity. But, I still contend, that you seem hopelessly ignorant of any serious secular philosophy. In order to encourage you, I will seek out this CNN report. I hope that you change your mind and look into the books that I have presented to you.

[EddieV]

How about you sincerely read them and honestly attempt a critique? All of this posturing just makes you look like a fat-headed psychopath. You so easily assume that the existence of god is real and that you are informed of such by the supposed "word of god," and, because of the fervor and zeal that you hold this opinion, you almost completely refuse to even consider alternative ideas. It's not, as you profess it to be, enlightening. Haven't you ever considered that you might be wrong?

As much as I disagree on many aspects these books explain I'd still have to say he's right on this one. Even though it may mislead you from your faith, these books do deserve to be read. Why? Because one very important thing for Islam is to do research. See how you can prove these books wrong.

If you decide not to read these and do research, it shows you're closed minded. As much as I don't agree with what Nate says, he seems to read up on much more than you do.

[illriginal]

As much as I disagree on many aspects these books explain I'd still have to say he's right on this one. Even though it may mislead you from your faith, these books do deserve to be read. Why? Because one very important thing for Islam is to do research. See how you can prove these books wrong.

If you decide not to read these and do research, it shows you're closed minded. As much as I don't agree with what Nate says, he seems to read up on much more than you do.

In a sense you can't really prove philosophy wrong, because that's all that it is. It's a long hard thought of something(s) that is in their personal perspective. You can only give your opinion about it but what good is debating/questioning philosophy if it's other than what the interpretation of the philosophical view. I read philosophy and highly enjoy it, but it's mainly Eastern philosophy, I don't appreciate much of the Western philosophies. Regardless it either better helps me understand life or it's just some philosophical view that doesn't mean much to me.

Above that philosophy is only respected when it meets your criteria.. or in other words if you can relate to it. If you don't relate to it in any sense... then you just simply disregard it and move on, or am I wrong?

And that's fine that you believe someone reads more than I do... I'm not gonna sit here and challenge someone into who reads what, how much of it, how fast, and so on... doesn't matter to me. What does matter is authenticity/legitimacy, and the interpretations, everything else fails.

[NoSex]

In a sense you can't really prove philosophy wrong, because that's all that it is. It's a long hard thought of something(s) that is in their personal perspective.

Much of what I presented to you is more scientific than it is philosophical.

[EddieV]

Above that philosophy is only respected when it meets your criteria.. or in other words if you can relate to it. If you don't relate to it in any sense... then you just simply disregard it and move on, or am I wrong?

I'd say you should at least look into it before disregarding it fully. Research a bit. Then if you don't agree, then stop reading. I think some things deserve to be read, it's why they're there. They wouldn't be well known for no reason.

...and I agree with a lot of Western philosophies as well as Eastern. Why? Because I choose my own philosophy and add it all together to suit my own needs, and to me, I believe that people shall do the same. I believe there's a couple of things in Western culture that you prefer over Eastern as well. You can't simply disagree with ALL of it.

But that's me.

Anyways we're kinda off subject. I believe the screaming while digging is a mere coincidence and isn't hell. I believe we also have the technology to find out if a visible hell really does exist. Just have to wait for some wacko to actually start going for it.

[illriginal]

Don't worry, I'm not automatically disregarding these philosophers. I've been looking for their books online for free. :P Free E-books ftw.

[Tweeti]

I believe in the Holy Bible, so yeah there is a hell.

[NoSex]

I believe in the Holy Bible, so yeah there is a hell.

Argument from authority.
Also, begging the question.

Learn to actually debate.

[IVIike]

I think it's real. It's really scary but it's kind of cool at the same time.

[illriginal]

I think it's real. It's really scary but it's kind of cool at the same time.

what?

[bitchface20]

hahaha see, you don't need religion to prove there is a hell, as like everything else, only science can prove such things.

and no, a hole in the ground, and probably schizophrenic diggers, around machines all day, that make noise that can play tricks on the brain and ears to sound like screaming, well there would be many explanation about the screams, heat means nothing. who says hell is even fiery? a bible? wheres the proof thats even real.

[Sandraaa]

LMFAO! HAHA! Very funny joke.