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Mozart makes you smartical!
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post Mar 30 2008, 03:49 PM
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post Mar 30 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(LoveToMySilas @ Mar 24 2008, 08:24 PM) *
More about it: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/3...ou_smarter.html

My teacher told me about this earlier before and I tried it, it actually worked for me. I was surprised. shifty.gif

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post Mar 30 2008, 05:05 PM
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I've been listening to Mozart since I was seven and I think I've gotten dumber over the years. Time to eradicate all my Nirvana stuff completely.
 
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post Mar 30 2008, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(sourire @ Mar 30 2008, 06:05 PM) *
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I've been listening to Mozart since I was seven and I think I've gotten dumber over the years. Time to eradicate all my Nirvana stuff completely.

I think it only applies between fetus to birth, not afterwards.
 
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post Mar 30 2008, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Mar 30 2008, 05:39 PM) *
I think it only applies between fetus to birth, not afterwards.
I'd be inclined to disagree...
 
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post Mar 31 2008, 07:59 AM
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QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Mar 30 2008, 07:17 PM) *
I'd be inclined to disagree...

well... me iilcninline 2 agggre bietch.. stubborn.gif
 
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post Mar 31 2008, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Mar 27 2008, 08:47 PM) *
I just have a guess on this, but it might be because most modern music is made with digital equipment these days, and many audiophiles say that digital sound isn't even real sound, but a series of 1010111001 or whatever. Anyway, older music was recorded on analog equipment, such as vinyl, which, when you play a real vinyl record on a turntable, you are hearing the actual vibrations of the grooves on the vinyl.

Supposedly, when you're listening to vinyl, rather than a CD or an mp3, you're hearing/feeling vibes that you don't get with digital equipment. This may be why analog mixers are some of the most popular in night clubs; the sound is "warmer" than with digital mixers and dancers get the vibe to dance more.

Those ideas wouldn't be exclusive to classical music, though.

That's just some stuff I've read before, though. I don't really know about the validity of that information, but it doesn't sound too far off to me. =P


That would be more interesting if not for the fact that back in Mozart's day, there weren't vinyls or recording equipment. Most of the Mozart and other classical music we hear today are recorded directly to tape or CD because it's another artist (in our time period) playing classical music. Unless, of course, if you're listening to Horowitz (or another really old and possibly dead musician).

Hm. I've played piano for fourteen-fifteen years and, yeah, I've heard many things about how it's supposed to help you. Supposedly, musicians are supposed to be innately better at math - I really didn't find that the case at all. I have no clue if it actually made me smarter, but I know it definitely taught me something about work ethic. I used to practice around 3-5 hours a day back in high school, more if I was preparing for a competition. I also think it helped with my memory - what with memorizing so many pages of music and stuff.
 
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post Mar 31 2008, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(heartquasm @ Mar 31 2008, 08:49 AM) *
That would be more interesting if not for the fact that back in Mozart's day, there weren't vinyls or recording equipment. Most of the Mozart and other classical music we hear today are recorded directly to tape or CD because it's another artist (in our time period) playing classical music. Unless, of course, if you're listening to Horowitz (or another really old and possibly dead musician).
Well, I was talking about analog overall, not just vinyl or other analog mediums. In fact, the piano itself, the flute itself, the violin itself, or whatever other instrument, would probably be "analog" in it's purest form, so to say.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:32 PM
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I still cannot believe instrument players become smarter. What causes them to become more intelligent? Memorization of notes and pages?

That’s all?
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(Fist @ Apr 2 2008, 09:32 PM) *
I still cannot believe instrument players become smarter. What causes them to become more intelligent? Memorization of notes and pages?

That’s all?

Probably yes. But it still hasn't helped my math.
 
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post Apr 2 2008, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Fist @ Apr 2 2008, 10:32 PM) *
I still cannot believe instrument players become smarter. What causes them to become more intelligent? Memorization of notes and pages?

That’s all?


Along with that, plus your brain picks up on the intricate ways that composers use techniques to make you feel or notice something. As you play it, your brain picks that up and develops new ways to tackle problems. I notice that when I play, I notice new things and it somehow makes me smarter.

well, thats my two cents.
 
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QUOTE(Fist @ Apr 2 2008, 09:32 PM) *
I still cannot believe instrument players become smarter. What causes them to become more intelligent? Memorization of notes and pages?

That’s all?
What freeridefight said, for the most part. It's a good way to exercise your brain (and its different functions).
 
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post Apr 3 2008, 02:29 AM
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So, music has nothing to do with IQ besides Mozart? It's the instrument itself?

Wow! I thought it was just "music" that magically increases your intelligence. I'm WRONG.
 
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post Apr 5 2008, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(loquat @ Apr 5 2008, 12:50 PM) *
For the record, the findings for this study have never been able to be replicated, so I wouldn't buy into this too much.

Well given the fact that digitalized music began in the mid 80s, I could imagine it would be hard to replicate.

Apparently like I have mentioned before, it is the vibration that's produced by the instrument that causes a child to sort of... open their gate of knowledge.
 
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post Apr 5 2008, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(loquat @ Apr 5 2008, 01:36 PM) *
Do you know what I meant by failed to replicate? People who tried to repeat the study (for consistency) did NOT get the same results which Rauscher, Shaw & Kay published in '93. Really, take any psych class and you'll find that the results studies need to be able to be replicated in order for the claim to be even considered valid--and that the Mozart Effect is a PRIME example of one that fails to do exactly that.

Music was digitalized before that... Just a heads up. There's really no point in arguing this(nor was it my intent to make this into a debate). I mean it's not like we're saying it's a fact that a fetus who listens to mozart (or classical music in general) to the point of birth are born as geniuses.
 
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post Apr 5 2008, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Apr 5 2008, 02:51 PM) *
Music was digitalized before that... Just a heads up. There's really no point in arguing this(nor was it my intent to make this into a debate). I mean it's not like we're saying it's a fact that a fetus who listens to mozart (or classical music in general) to the point of birth are born as geniuses.


I think you're kind of missing her point.

A successful psychological experiment should be able to be replicated with similar, successful results. This one hasn't.

And you said yourself that

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it is the vibration that's produced by the instrument that causes a child to sort of... open their gate of knowledge.


I thought we weren't stating anything as if it were a fact?
 
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post Apr 5 2008, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(heartquasm @ Apr 5 2008, 03:03 PM) *
I think you're kind of missing her point.

A successful psychological experiment should be able to be replicated with similar, successful results. This one hasn't.

And you said yourself that
I thought we weren't stating anything as if it were a fact?

No... it is a claim that has been made, and I sort of understand it. I don't exactly know the science of how it works. There can be many probabilities... wink.gif

Oh and just a heads up, I've studied psychology and sociology. Psychology was gonna be my minor at first but I decided since I had some personal time, I could study it on my own time.
 
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post Apr 5 2008, 03:27 PM
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Good job. It's an interesting subject. I'm currently majoring in Psych (spec Neuroscience & Behavior).
 
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post Apr 6 2008, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(heartquasm @ Apr 5 2008, 04:27 PM) *
Good job. It's an interesting subject. I'm currently majoring in Psych (spec Neuroscience & Behavior).

<,< If you get access to any psycho-drugs... let me know shifty.gif

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post Sep 9 2008, 06:29 PM
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I'm doing a paper on the Mozart Effect.

The catch is that we have to make a EXTREME claim about it so this is what I said...

• Mozart Effect dramatically changes the intelligence levels in children of all ages. As Mozart Effect is proven true hence, Gynecologist and other neonatal physicians should mandatorily begin to surgically insert microscopic music players into the womb of pregnant women. In order to begin the effect in the aptitude of the children without delay.

I know! Its totally messed up!! No one would ever do that... but I'm just doing my homework.

Anyways, I was hoping to get some input on the subject of 'inserting the microscopic music players"

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