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Christianity vs. Islam. vs. Judaism, The Ultimate Debate
brooklyneast05
post Feb 25 2008, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 25 2008, 03:02 PM) *
Is it really slavery, to believe what you have been taught, both in school and in the home?

it's not a good reason to believe it
 
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post Feb 25 2008, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 25 2008, 02:40 PM) *
it's not a good reason to believe it

Believe what?...

Religion doesn't make you into a slave. Religion teaches you the word of God and the standards of God. Religion isn't supposed to be something you convert to... only to learn from it. But devilish humans created "man-made" standards and implemented them through their version(s) of religion.


God doesn't make you a slave... you make yourself a slave, assuming you're gullible and too mentally weak to make your own decisions in what you believe in. That's why I don't conform to a specific religion... I follow all religions as one. As long as they're authentic/legitimate and can be cross referenced to other religions and or historical events.

Edit: I wouldn't be talkin ish about any religion without at least learning all the religions and understanding the meanings of each religion.


Even knowing just one religion doesn't merit you enough to disrespect a religion or God... that's just laughable.

An ignorant atheist is one that rips into a specific religion and acts like they have the merit to disrespect religion, faith, God, and the Prophets.

When in reality they don't know jack ish about ish other than their trends. And in my opinion most of the atheist in this world are just trendy, uneducated fools.


This wasn't directed towards anyone specific, just sayin.
 
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post Feb 25 2008, 03:26 PM
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I don't think that I am gullible or weak in any way. I think that when you have been taught things for basically your whole life, and don't know another way, then it is hard to not conform. I will admit, that I am interested more now than ever, to study other religions and what not.
 
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post Feb 25 2008, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 25 2008, 03:26 PM) *
I don't think that I am gullible or weak in any way. I think that when you have been taught things for basically your whole life, and don't know another way, then it is hard to not conform. I will admit, that I am interested more now than ever, to study other religions and what not.



It's good for your mind/knowledge/self. You'll start to find out things that specific religions haven't told their people through cross referencing. Having knowledge of the Talmud, Torah, Kabbalah, Bible, Qur'an, and Hadiths etc.. will blow your mind.


Like for example... it was witnessed that Jesus Christ meditated. You ask a Christian Pastor/Priest about Jesus meditating and they'll call you a liar. But it's not their fault, because they chose to only follow one religion instead of taking the time to learn the others and find more information about their own religion in the first place.


Meh do it for the sake of knowledge at least.
 
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post Feb 25 2008, 03:37 PM
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Definitely. Learning these things can only do more good than harm in the long run anyway.
 
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 25 2008, 03:37 PM) *
Definitely. Learning these things can only do more good than harm in the long run anyway.



If religious leaders took the time to study other religions... there wouldn't be religious wars -.- instead they'd come together in better understanding. But whatever, humans suck. (No offense) pinch.gif
 
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post Feb 25 2008, 03:42 PM
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None taken, but nobody will ever stop fighting long enough to respect each others views. Fortunately we can learn these things on our own, when we can't get answers from the "leaders" of our religion.
 
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post Feb 25 2008, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 25 2008, 04:42 PM) *
None taken, but nobody will ever stop fighting long enough to respect each others views.

QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Feb 23 2008, 01:13 AM) *
that won't happen because...some peoples values and beliefs don't deserve respect. claiming something as a belief doesn't mean it's untouchable and the rest of us should bow down and respect it.


same thing
 
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True
 
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post Feb 26 2008, 12:40 AM
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that won't happen because...some peoples values and beliefs don't deserve respect. claiming something as a belief doesn't mean it's untouchable and the rest of us should bow down and respect it.


as long as those people respect others beliefs, their beliefs should be respected.
 
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QUOTE(Sulfur @ Feb 25 2008, 11:40 PM) *
as long as those people respect others beliefs, their beliefs should be respected.


I've been really sick, and every time I look at this thread I want to puke. But, this statement was especially stupid, so I had to say something.

Shouldn't a belief be respected on the merits of the specific beliefs in question? I mean, even if the most respectable, dignified, gracious, humble, super cool, and sexy dude believed that all Asians should be exterminated in giant microwaves, I'm sure you would have an issue in respecting that sort of belief... even if he respects your own beliefs (whatever those may be, it's not like it really matters... insofar as he respects him, cause, you know, genuine respect is totally a choice).

What you're arguing for is ignorance and tolerance for stupidity and tolerance for further ignorance. Respecting beliefs that don't make sense is for the birds. Now more than ever, words and ideas are the modes of sociological evolution (or de-evolution). We have to be careful in what we give credence. And, since ideas are so powerful, we have to fight those ideas that don't contribute to the potential progressiveness of the individual and society...

Get a f**king grip. Beliefs should be respected independently of who holds them and how they hold them... if a belief is accurate, useful, insightful, and meaningful, maybe maybe it deserves respect. If it doesn't happen to be any of those things, f**k that noise!
 
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exactly
 
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post Mar 8 2008, 12:08 AM
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O.o. I can't believe I read through these long, boring two pages.
 
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QUOTE(emberfly @ Mar 8 2008, 01:08 AM) *
O.o. I can't believe I read through these long, boring two pages.


That's your problem.
 

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