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post Feb 22 2008, 09:30 PM
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I recently got into an argument with my girlfriend over her revulsion to my weed/marijuana/ganja smoking. I told her it helps me sleep, she didn't want to hear it. I told her she's an immature, misinformed little bitch who believes everything TV tells her. She called me a pothead, which I am not. I began to hit her over and over again. Afterwards she called the police and I spent a week in a very cozy jail cell.

My question to you is: Who do you think drugs have helped?
  1. Hunter S. Thompson - The father of Gonzo journalism and a fantastic writer, he is one of my favorites. He basically warped his brain from all the drugs he did, yet this actually helped in his writing while making him much more interesting than his sober peers.
  2. Robert Downey Jr. - He is just awesome, he's definitely one of my favorite actors. Some say he plays the same role in every movie, but you know what, go fuck yourselves, he's awesome (way too many commas). Sure drug use did land him in prison once or twice, but he's at the high point of his career after the fact, so the drugs must have helped somehow.
  3. Led Zeppelin - haha, I could have just as easily put any fuckin rock band here, they're all druggies. Zeppelin, one of the best bands in rock history, if not the best. Lets put some more: Tool (awesome), The Doors (fuckin crazed out), Jimmy Hendrix (haha), The Grateful Dead (hahaha), Jefferson Airplane (White Rabbit, hahahahaha), Rush (oh come on!), and every other awesome mutha fudgin band in history.
  4. Johnny Depp - He lived with the aforementioned Hunter S. Thompson for 3 months to prepare for the role of Hunter S. Thompson in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. In all that time, he must have gone fuckin crazy with the weed and the coke and the acid, so much acid, hallucinagenics galore. Awesome actor (now), hasn't made a movie I haven't liked in years (except The Libertine, what the fuck Johnny?), he has benefited so much from drugs. All you Pirates fanatics have drugs to thank for Captain Jack.
Well, thats it for now. Think of some more, they don't have to be famous, think of people you know.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 09:31 PM
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jim morrison...well imo he was a good writer when he was high
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 09:39 PM
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Hendrix
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 09:41 PM
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sry2say jimi hendrix didnt exactly benefit from using drugs
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 09:45 PM
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^?????

Are you retarded? Jimi Hendrix became arguably the greatest guitarist of all time. Sure, most of it was from natural talent, but if you take drugs (especially acid which was Hendrix' fave apparently) while writing music, you get absorbed into it and have the potential to create some crazy shit. Do you think it's a coincedence that every good band does lots and lots of drugs. It's not like they started after they got famous, they got famous after they started.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 09:47 PM
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hendrix did drugs and they really f**ked him up. my dad met him when he was on drugs and he was a f**king idiot that was all over the place. also "purple haze" wasnt inspired by drugs well so said hendrix
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 09:53 PM
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^ hmm, well that raises the question of what is more important: Career or Public Image?

Sure drugs f**ked up Hendrix publicly, but launched his career as a great guitarist.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 09:56 PM
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idk about that. i think that jimi hendrix would of been famous w/o all the drugs but i guess we will never know
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:13 PM
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Drugs help a lot of musicians get that high to get the creative juices overloaded and ish... I know there's been many people who've done that, in any art, in any genre.

But I'm sure some heckuva passionate kid could get just as creative.

Also, random fact, a person in love shows similar brain activity as those who are on drugs. Maybe helps explain why a lot of successful songs are also love songs. Sorry, don't feel like citing.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:16 PM
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promotes creativity..and visualizations of the mind.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:16 PM
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Um..how about Freud. But I agree, the "dangers" of pot are waaaay overstated.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:18 PM
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drugs dont help you be a better musician, technically. but it does help you push the boundaries.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:20 PM
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Helps the visualization of Trish look better. worthy.gif

Disclaimer: Things look better while under the influence of drugs.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:23 PM
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wow you are one funny guy
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:23 PM
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Sherlock Holmes was a habitual user of Cocaine and Morphine.

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post Feb 22 2008, 10:44 PM
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ChaseTheDragon, you're sig is too tall.
 
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:52 PM
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post Feb 22 2008, 11:39 PM
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The Beatles... Van Gogh...
 
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post Feb 23 2008, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Feb 22 2008, 08:30 PM) *
I recently got into an argument with my girlfriend over her revulsion to my weed/marijuana/ganja smoking.


Tell your girlfriend that she is a brainwashed moron.

If you haven't read Aldous Huxley's essays "The Doors of Perception," and "Heaven and Hell," than I highly suggest it. They explore Huxley's autobiographical experimentation with Mescaline and his philosophies on "mind-expanding drugs." These works were integral aspects of the counter-culture movements of the 1960's and completely changed a generation's idea of drug use. The essays are surprisingly scientific, and, in the very least, immensely challenging. I highly suggest them to both parties.

And, just to shortly express a few points:

1. Without the use of psychoactive substances the beat generation would have never occurred (as well as a myriad of other important social, philosophical, and artistic movements) and some of the most liberating, insightful, and amazing art that we have today would never have existed. People like Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac, William S. Burroughs, and Charles Bukowski are probably some of the greatest poets and writers to have ever lived within this last century.

2. The stigmatization and prohibition of drugs has its roots in intense racism, corporate control, and an institution of freedom-hating-moral-crusaders that only propagate misinformation and deceit.

3. Due to the aforementioned stigmatization of drugs, we are only just recently discovering the immense medicinal qualities of an entire array of non-psychoactive and psychoactive drugs. These drugs have promise in the treatment of pain, psychosis, depression, anxiety, and a whole slew of malices of both body and mind.

4. The Drug War perpetuates crime, creates a black market, hurts our society in innumerable ways, and is, worst of all, wholly unsuccessful. Today, heroin is purer, cheaper, and more readily available than it ever was - and, drug dealers don't exactly check for I.D.

5. If we ever hope to call ourselves free, we have to recognize that the ability to consume mind altering substances is an inherent freedom - to control the contents of our mind is one of the most valued virtues of society, so why is it under attack?

Just to close this out: I've never taken a single illegal drug in my life. Secondly, I've never had a single drag on a cigarette or a single sip of alcohol. So, if you hope to oppose the stance, you're going to have to get a bit more creative.

QUOTE(ChaseTheDragon @ Feb 22 2008, 09:23 PM) *
Sherlock Holmes was a habitual user of Cocaine and Morphine.


Dude, Sherlock Holmes is a fictional character.
 
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post Feb 23 2008, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(ChaseTheDragon @ Feb 22 2008, 11:23 PM) *
Sherlock Holmes was a habitual user of Cocaine and Morphine.

lol so drug use makes for better fictional characters too?

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nate beat me
 
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post Feb 23 2008, 01:31 PM
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Sigmund Freud.
 
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post Feb 23 2008, 09:19 PM
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A lot of different musicians! It's inspiring! LOL
 
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post Feb 24 2008, 07:20 AM
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For some reason I suck at video games when Im high. I don't know why though, isnt weed supposed to make you better at video games? Whatever.
  1. Joseph Cardillo - I had him as a Creative Writing: Poetry and Song Professor last year and also a fantastic writer (Cardillo.com), he was the best college professor I've had so far and one of the best teachers I've ever had. His style was so eccentric and very loose, he would always carry around this weird thermos he said was filled with tea, we all figured he put liquor in it. He's about late forties, early fifties, black belt and crazed philosopher, though he has never come out and said it, I'm sure he did drugs back in the day. P.S. I saw him a few weeks back in a full black suit and tie and an orange skater beanie which purposefully threw off the whole look, the guy is amazing.
  2. Bob Marley - Umm....duhh
  3. Any hip-hop or gangster rap artist - The main two I'm thinking of are Method Man and Redman who starred in How High which is suprisingly hilarious even though it's obviously flawed, and they're not bad rappers either, especially Meth who made one of the best Rap cds ever, Tical 2000, look into it.
  4. Cheech and Chong - How did I forget to put these guys in the first list? Their whole act is basically smoking weed, lots and lots of weed, and they're hilarious for it. I hope and pray we will see one more from these guys before one of them passes on (I think it'll be Cheech, he was looking kinda fucked up in Latin Kings of Comedy). Also, the originators of one of the greatest songs of all time (Mexican Americans - click the linkage bitch!).
 
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post Feb 28 2008, 08:45 PM
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Amy Winehouse

I know, she's f**ked up and that's she's ultimately killing herself. I just think that her music is somewhat fueled by how f**ked up she is. So in a sense, it's helped her.

Meh.
 
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post Feb 28 2008, 08:48 PM
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Drugs may have "helped" these celebrities, but for the most part, they're clean now.

Celebrities can afford the lifestyle, they can afford the rehab and they can afford to play with the consequences of habitual drug use, whereas I daresay Tom, Dick or Harry cannot.

My poor Bowie would be a wreck (think the Thin White Duke era) if he still took drugs. Bad news, for all involved.
 

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