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 Feb 22 2008, 09:42 PM
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 i did your boyfriend  Group: Official Designer Posts: 3,335 Joined: Feb 2004 Member No: 4,071  |
Should the happiness of others be the primary motivator for moral action?
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Feb 22 2008, 10:39 PM
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 Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
Depends on your values. =P
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Feb 22 2008, 10:40 PM
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 The Resident Drunk Group: Head Staff Posts: 8,623 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,266 |
I struggle with this one, and I say, that it depends on the situation.
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Feb 22 2008, 10:41 PM
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Photoartist Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 12,363 Joined: Apr 2006 Member No: 399,390 |
This is gonna be one of those hecka broad discussions, ha ha.
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Feb 22 2008, 10:42 PM
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The Resident Drunk Group: Head Staff Posts: 8,623 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,266 |
Lol
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Feb 22 2008, 11:48 PM
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 DDR \\ I'm Dee :) Group: Mentor Posts: 8,662 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 384,020 |
No. But the safety of them should be. If it makes you happy to kill people you shouldn't do it just because it makes you happy. Then again they'd probably be happy that they weren't dead... if they knew you wanted to kill them.
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Feb 23 2008, 03:40 AM
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QUOTE(DoubleJ @ Feb 22 2008, 07:40 PM)  I struggle with this one, and I say, that it depends on the situation. |
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Feb 23 2008, 03:46 AM
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QUOTE(karmakiller @ Feb 22 2008, 08:48 PM) No. But the safety of them should be. If it makes you happy to kill people you shouldn't do it just because it makes you happy. Then again they'd probably be happy that they weren't dead... if they knew you wanted to kill them. this made me smile. 'cause it's such a naive point of view. i wish the real world was this simple, and of course in an impossibly ideal world everyone would be 'happy'. i agree with you though, it's not necessarily happiness that should warrant 'moral action', but 'safety' or one's right to live. then again, who decides what one's rights are? |
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Feb 23 2008, 03:48 AM
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The Resident Drunk Group: Head Staff Posts: 8,623 Joined: Nov 2007 Member No: 593,266 |
^Nobody does. If I had to choose whether I want to be happy or my friends, I would choose my friends.
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Feb 23 2008, 03:50 AM
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^ in a way, you making your friends happy would also make you happy.
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Feb 23 2008, 10:32 AM
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 Ms. Granger Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 735 Joined: Jul 2005 Member No: 165,238 |
Your own happiness should be your own driving force, but it should adhere to keeping the well-being of others in tact.
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Feb 23 2008, 10:47 AM
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 in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
It's sort of an irrelevant question given my philosophical "understanding" of "human nature." I'm an adherent of selfism and psychological egoism - I think all men act in self-interest and are incapable to treat, as Kant proposed as a criteria for truly "moral action," other human beings as an end as opposed to a means. So, since all people have the primary concern of of themselves, they couldn't even act in order, merely, to ensure the happiness of others.
Secondly, happiness is a very ambiguous and broad term. To revolve any moral theory around such an idea is an effort in futility. And, lastly, the question is even more irrelevant given my stance of amoralism. If you don't believe in morality in the first place, the question is sort of meaningless. And, even if you do believe in morality, I would argue the question is still meaningless - y'all just don't realize it yet. |
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Feb 23 2008, 11:26 AM
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 Sarcastic Mr. Know-It-All Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 2,089 Joined: Dec 2003 Member No: 29 |
lol, you and Kant, of all people.
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Feb 23 2008, 11:35 AM
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in the reverb chamber. Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 4,022 Joined: Nov 2005 Member No: 300,308 |
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Feb 23 2008, 10:26 AM) lol, you and Kant, of all people. Dude, I hate that guy. |
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