Hillary Clinton Options

[brooklyneast05]

watcha think about her?

don't just say you hate her, or think she's a bitch, blah blah blah. i wanna know WHY you like or dislike her.


if you don't know anything about her, her stances, ect...don't reply here please. i really don't give a shit about what you've assumed from looking at her or the fact she's a woman. i want opinions from people who actually have a clue.

[superficial]

Hillary Clinton seems to be convincing a lot of people, but I've seen her interviews and they contradict one another (I've seen one of these videos on cB as well, but I don't remember who posted it). I also heard that she dislikes Asians or something like that. Although if she did stop the war in Iraq, like how she said she would, she wouldn't be that bad of a president as George Bush. If she does win, I don't want her to be fooling around, I want her to rule, and prove to people who think otherwise that women are able to handle the job of being a president.

[fameONE]

Debate? Having this in the lounge gives it visibility and allows us to have an open forum, political discussion, but we must be aware of the idiots.

Wikipedia is God.

In January 2008 Clinton announced she wanted to enact a "stimulus package" totaling as much as $110 billion, to deal with the effects of a possible recession. The package would consists of funds to help deal with the effect of the subprime mortgage crisis, to help lower-income families pay for higher home energy costs, to extend unemployment insurance, and to possibly provide some tax refunds.[5]

Clinton has not signed the tax cut pledge from Americans for Tax Reform, which pledges not to create new taxes or raise existing ones while in office.[6] Clinton advocates repealing portions of the Bush tax cuts, effectively increasing some taxes to the higher rates which existed in 2000.

That sounds lovely. Fiscal planning that benefits the welfare of the American people. But what concerns me is that, in order to support the blue collar Americans that work their fingers to the bone, only to find out that they can't afford to send their child off to college with extreme debt, she will also be chopping their knees by raising tax. Bitch, sign the paper. I understand that in order to get a little, you need to give a little, but there must be a better way to acquire funds without hurting the people you wish to help.

"I believe that. That's why I put it in the book...And I just believe that there's got to be a healthy tension among all of our institutions in society, and that the market is the driving force behind our prosperity, our freedom in so many respects to make our lives our own but that it cannot be permitted just to run roughshod over people's lives as well."

Wait... what? So, would you rather a socialist economy? I don't think the American free market is ready for that, toots. Since the world of capitalism is in the pocket of blue-beared conservatives, convincing the country that this will work will be a task from hell. We'd get more support by just destroying Iran and making it a parking lot. America is a consumer society because of capitalism, but because of capitalism, America stands as a wealthy society that can afford to provide a sound financial future for generations to come. I want more details on your ideal "free market," Hilary.

On December 5, 2007, Clinton unveiled her plan to ameliorate the effects of the 2007 subprime mortgage financial crisis on homeowners. She called for a 90-day moratorium on foreclosures, in order that lenders and mortgage servicers have sufficient time to get through paperwork complications and an expected high volume of troubled borrowers without having to shut out the lights, and a five-year freeze on the interest rates of adjustable rate mortgages, so that borrowers would not get slammed by expected 30, 40 or more percent increases in monthly payments due to the effects of the crisis and of unwise initial borrowing decisions.

Impressive.

How I feel about Hilary on cash, money, cheddar, stack bundles (not the rapper, but RIP to him), paper, etc...

I'm not convinced. However, she shows potential. In this day and age, considering the political crosshairs that she's in, that's not good enough.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Well, I object to the the fact that electing Hilary would be putting another Clinton into office when we've already had two Bushes. I don't think establishing that sort of trend is very democratic. By merit of these connections, voting for Hilary would be the opposite of voting for change, which is what we all so desire, is it not? I fully think that a Democrat needs take the presidency for the next term given the disaster what was Bush. I think that would give the party a very big advantage as well. Given that a lot of people vote based on party affiliation alone, things are looking pretty favorable in the general election. Now, if people's dissatisfaction is enough to pull their opposition through, then we're going to need to have a good candidate as that opposition. This isn't Hilary. Lots of people have had an irrational hate of Hilary for a long time. Hilary isn't change. I don't even know how she's pulling "35 years of experience" out of her ass; being married to experience is not experience. She voted to go to war in Iraq. She's being guilty of gross demagoguery on too many occasions. And while many people are afraid because she's soooo liberal, I've actually studied her views and wouldn't consider her nearly liberal enough to get my vote.

[brooklyneast05]

as of now it's just expressing opinions/taking advantage of visibility before moving, when some contrasting views break out then i'll move it there.


i agree with fully thinking that a democrat needs to be in office next. i'm for obama, but would settle with hillary over a republican. i do think she has potential, and i disagree with the tendency for people to constantly call her a bitch. i think too often opinionated women get the term "bitch" while their male peers get credit for having strong opinions, standing their ground, ect. i disagree with her beating everyone over the head with the claim of being so experienced. i think she has experience, but not to the extent she is playing it up. if you're gonna be voting democrat then i think we can pretty much throw experience out the window anyway because neither her or obama really have that much.

[*Steven*]

I hate her attitude. She's arrogant as all hell. She lost a primary and was like

"WAHHHHHHH!" "I need to listen to the people more! I'm out of touch, I will make an effort to listen to America now!"

She wins, and back to arrogant. Not only that, she tells people what they want to hear. She jumps on the bandwagon of the majority just so people like her more, not because she feels that way. I'll make a bet that once she gets into office she'll carry through with maybe 20% of what she said she would, and the other 80% will be her personal agenda.

[Elba]

I love her! She's going to be at my school tomorrow, but I have to work :( I just agree with all of her ideas and the change she is going to work for.

[fameONE]

I love her! She's going to be at my school tomorrow, but I have to work :( I just agree with all of her ideas and the change she is going to work for.

You agree with all of her ideas? Are you aware of how foolish you sound?

Clinton says she will attempt to ease tensions with countries like Iran and Syria through direct engagement and Clinton has said that if elected, she would "immediately open a diplomatic track" with Iran.

Sounds like Bush 1 and OPERATION DESERT STORM to me.

[*Steven*]

I love her! She's going to be at my school tomorrow, but I have to work :( I just agree with all of her ideas and the change she is going to work for.

[Elba]

You agree with all of her ideas? Are you aware of how foolish you sound?
Sounds like Bush 1 and OPERATION DESERT STORM to me.

Why am I foolish?

[fameONE]

Why am I foolish?

You look foolish by making an unsupported statement. And you look even more foolish for not understanding why I asked if you realized that sounded foolish to begin with. Sheesh.

[Elba]

Mmmkay. Didn't know this was a debate. Baibai

[*Steven*]

watcha think about her?

don't just say you hate her, or think she's a bitch, blah blah blah. i wanna know WHY you like or dislike her.

[Elba]

I did say why; I didn't "support" my why. Her stand on immigration and health care are just a couple things I agree with.

[*Steven*]

yeah f**k the immigrants (illegal ones)! Based on her track record, however, I doubt she'll stick to her platform.

LET'S GIVE ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DRIVERS LICENSES

[Simba]

By merit of these connections, voting for Hilary would be the opposite of voting for change, which is what we all so desire, is it not?

I just heard somebody just asked Hilary a similar question on the Democratic Debates on CNN.




Too bad I was too stupid to listen to the response.

[Elba]

LET'S GIVE ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS DRIVERS LICENSES

Why are you quoting Obama?

[fameONE]

Mmmkay. Didn't know this was a debate. Baibai

Take care. Come back in 4 years, we'll discuss our possible conflict with North Korea and their Naval capabilities, mmk? We'll do brunch. ^_^

[*Steven*]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0uHybfmmY

[Elba]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B0uHybfmmY

This video is so long. Did she say she is for illegal immigrants getting DLs? Because I am watching the debate right now, and she said she is against it. I watched the video--I don't see her saying that; she said it makes sense for the governor (or whoever) to want that.

[fameONE]

This video is so long. Did she say she is for illegal immigrants getting DLs? Because I am watching the debate right now, and she said she is against it. I watched the video--I don't see her saying that; she said it makes sense for the governor (or whoever) to want that.

Clinton flip-flopping on her political stances is soooooo yesterday. She's changed her ways.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

^haha

[Elba]

Oh, because no one else flip-flops?

You're being a dick. f**k you.

Reason for edit: posts merged

[Simba]

[fameONE]

You're being a dick. f**k you.

Listen to Miles Davis' Kind of Blue. Its an outstanding album that'll really calm you down. This thread and the dissection of a particular candidate's flaws, is not that serious.