Women's Rights = Divorce Rate, New Debate Topic Options

[brooklyneast05]

Um. shut the f**k up? Are you picking on me?
What are your solutions to the problem? We do NEED women to stay at home, but NOT ALL OF THEM! Look and read carefully. We know women traditionally stay at home watching the children. Again, it's their choice and what they want best for themselves or everyone.
and you're a f**king bitch. "There is no logic in shoving the labor and "potential for success" onto your kids, if you are in no way successful yourself because it likely won't work out.". My mom had no free education, is poor, and ... you dare to diss her? You cannot assume unsucessful mother makes unsucessful children, f**king dick shit.

calm down, she isn't a f**king bitch. u're quite the sensitive one.

u said we NEED women to stay at home, but NOT ALL OF THEM! why do we need them to stay at home? i don't think we do, and i still don't think u have answered why we need them to?

I said that I did not understand why in God's name you would suggest that we need more women to "watch the kids and monitor the house."

that's what she was getting at...and in ur whole reply u ignored it.


quit telling us touching little tales about ur own mother and get to the point already. i'm sure MissHygienic and myself could tell some inspirational ones about our own, BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE QUESTIONS AT HAND. are u going to answer her or not?

[demolished]

Men are not capable of doing home work edit.i'm talking about one with children

Stay-at-home mom is consider a courageous career that should be recognized. It no easy task and isn't better than working women ... but I do understand that there are discriminations against women, but I still do believe there should be a balance of women's lifestyle through working at home or job.

It's better for the mother stay home, if it's possible, because women in general are better nurturers. There are many things that men and women are capable of doing, men in general aren't one of those people who want to work as "house husband". Yes, we're different in what we do and think, but there are things that women are generally better at, and some other things that men are generally better at.

Yes, not all women can work at home, but there are many educated and talented women with Initiate for loving, caring, and tending their children is rewarding. a women being a mom, slowly watching their children maturing, being educated, saying thoughtful comments, connected, and knowing that their kids will come back to take of them at old age.

It's true that you can leave children up to someone else and work. If you're happy and things are going great, then no problem!

Mom is one of the hardest jobs. While children are awake, mom need to nurture, support, train, and educated these future adults. Again, children now, are the reflection of the society. Being the mom is stressful, and no matter how tired, devastated, and crazy toward their children, they still do their job. That's not the only thing; they must do some clean-up, dusting, and arranging the home so it will look decently. Without mom, house would look like dusty crap and would probably be taken for granted. the role of the mother is more than just doing things, it's also about proper timing whether the wife need to do certain things such as cooking and preparing the meals to meet everyone's expectation and their nutrient needs for everyone including their husband. Being a mom is a life-style, it's a duty of 24/7. Other working adults take it for granted.

Without mom to stay at home, I wonder what things would be like. How would the children turn out to be? How much does mom missed out the value, experiences, and opportunity to see their own children becoming an adult ... and will take care of them... or maybe not. It's not like ... mom will never have a time off for their kids, right? There are disadvantages and advantages of everything.



I'm not against feminism, btw.
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Does feminism affect women in today's society? Absolutely. Feminism is a period when women want to pursuit their core value and to break away from the traditional role of womanhood. Does their new role affect their marriage? That's possible! Since both of them are working on their own, devoted to their job, making money, and.... can slowly drift away. When one work very hard, always focusing, and in task, they think lesser about their wife. Of course, I could be wrong.

[brooklyneast05]

I'm not against feminism, btw.

no shit? i'd beg to differ

Men are not capable of doing home work

Without mom to stay at home, I wonder what things would be like. How would the children turn out to be? How much does mom missed out the value, experiences, and opportunity to see their own children becoming an adult ... and will take care of them... or maybe not. It's not like ... mom will never have a time off for their kids, right? There are disadvantages and advantages of everything.

i guess i better share my life story now

i still don't know what u are rambling on about. men are perfectly capable of doing housework, AND SHOULD DO IT. i'm a man. i buy my own groceries, i prepare my own meals, i wash my own clothes, iron my own clothes, dust my own house, vacuum my own floors, wash my own dishes, the list goes on and on. i'm a man who is able to do all these things. granted, i don't have a wife and kids, but i assure u that when i do, i'll continue to do these things. not force my wife to be some kind of house slave. my mother and father both worked, and all three children have turned out fine. my mom and dad always split up the housework, cooking, shopping, ect. my mom got plenty of experience being a mother, while still working a job. she loves being a mom, and loves her job. i still don't see why women NEED to be at home. do u get that question? why do they NEED to. women today have careers and raise good kids, i see no sign that women NEED to stay home.

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also, i think housewives are becoming less and less realistic. a good amount, if not a majority, of families can't even afford to have only one working parent.

[MissHygienic]

Fist,

I was not insulting your mom. What I said last was that you come from an Asian-American background. I know that a lot of Asians are hard-workers and try to be the best they can. I clarified this? I asked you questions to invalidate it because your case was an exception to mine. I wasn't debating or picking on you. I was applying my stance on your point of view. That we apparently need women to stay at home all of the time.

If you want personal stories, here, I was not raised by mom. My mom was a housewife, and she was a poor one, at that. She taught me how to speak, how to color, and that's about it. Nothing else. She could not teach me math, and she wasn't interested in reading books. Without her help in anything in my life, I've aced subjects across the board in school and I also went to college. I've been fine without her. So, I can tell you that, no, there is no need for mothers to stay at home and monitor the house. Who says all housewives love their job, anyway? Moreover, who says that they will all be like your mother?

Perhaps you failed to see my point in a broader aspect. Your mom isn't the only housewife in this world. I know many housewives. My boyfriend knows a lot of housewives in his state, as well, and they are all lower-class, fat white trash who raise lower-class, fat white trash children. Would you prefer the reflection of America to be white trash? To pork out on Twinkies and Ding-Dongs and spend their time learning how to use TiVo?

Do you get my point now? Being a housewife with children is a "monkey see, monkey do" thing. Your mom was not once "unsuccessful." She taught you to be something different. Those types of housewives? The, "I don't care what you do, be what you want" housewives? Their kids will be nothing in this world. There is no argument. These kids will never learn perseverance or hard-work or the importance of education and moving forward.

Again, I had stated in my very first post, "disregarding personal choice." I do not give two shits about what women choose to do with their lives. You spoke of housewives as if it's something necessary, and I wanted to ask you why. However, glad to know that I'm a f**king dick shit. I get it from my mom :).

Brooklyneast,

I agree with you there. At least you understand my point. My dad was much better at house work than my mom. Single dads are actually sometimes much better than single moms because they're more protective whereas the mom is more likely to be the, "Honey, I support you in anything, even drugs and sex" deal.

[MissFits]

I don't think women need to stay home, and it's a personal choice. I know being a housewife would please me immensely. There is a career I am going to pursue, but my children and husband will always come first.

I think I see what fist was trying to say (correct me if I am wrong). Kids need someone in their life to discipline the f**k out of them. People need to start spanking their kids again. It happened more when more women stayed at home and watched their children like hawks. If a kid is left to their own devices most of them will do things that are not good life choices (sex, drugs, drinking). I think that is leading to the downfall of our society, bad parenting.
It appears to me that fist sees the same things I do, that when parents are more active in their children's lives rather than their careers the children thrive and don't end up being parents at 15 and starting the cycle over again. It's not necessarily the mothers job, though.

[Joss-eh-lime]

maybe womens rights does have something to do with divorce rates..

for example, a women isn't thrown into the nearest lake for wanting a divorce these days so she can file for a divorce without the idea of shame, or loss of property.

but maybe it just means with more rights women are now brave enough to stand up for themselves and know exactly what they want in life.