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View on vegetarianism/veganism, idk if there's another topic on this but..
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post Dec 2 2007, 05:52 PM
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I just finished reading a 10 page debate on it, and it was interesting, so i would like to hear what your views on it are.
I would like to keep this somewhat unviolent, so if you have something rude to say, please keep it to yourself.
heres my story.


I was a vegetarian for 11 months, im 13.[youngstfuz], and my body couldnt handle it. I kept getting sick week after week after week, and i was losing weight rapidly, and becoming unhealthy. Yes, i ate my green vegetables, and plenty of beans and rice milk for iron/protein, all that stuff. I dont know why, but i am slowly easing back into a meat diet, i try not to eat it alot, just enough to keep me alive and healthy.


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post Dec 2 2007, 05:58 PM
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You may have had to transition more slowly into a vegetarian diet than you did.

And you'll probably need more than rice milk for protein. Try eating more soy, tofu, etc. You might even have to keep track of the nutrients you're taking in for a while and make sure you take in everything you need to function.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:01 PM
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I find veganism really pointless, not going to lie.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:06 PM
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Can you explain your reasons?
because yeah, i still believe its wrong, even though i have gone back into a meat eating diet [slowly]
and i will sound like a treehugger here, BUT eating animals does contribute to pollution, and global warming, etc.
and why do you think so many americans and others are so overweight?
eating meat was in the bible, yes. but does it say to kill cruelly, and inhumanely? meh. idk what else to say atm tbh
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:09 PM
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Okay, there are companies who kill animals in a humane way. It's not all torture and hell as what you see on PETA. It is in our nature to eat other mammals because it's a natural part of the food chain. Meat does not contribute to an unhealthy diet or obesity; it is mostly junk food and candies and soda that a lot of vegetarians consume as to compensate for their lack of meat. Eating meat isn't what's inflating our weight gain in America. Plus, I'm sure you don't know that the vegetables you eat grow on habitat lands which kills more animals than humans killing them.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(chocokissez @ Dec 3 2007, 07:06 AM) *
Can you explain your reasons?
because yeah, i still believe its wrong, even though i have gone back into a meat eating diet [slowly]
and i will sound like a treehugger here, BUT eating animals does contribute to pollution, and global warming, etc.
and why do you think so many americans and others are so overweight?
eating meat was in the bible, yes. but does it say to kill cruelly, and inhumanely? meh. idk what else to say atm tbh
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Americans are overweight not because they eat meat. It's the amount of fat and oil they consume. Sure, you can argue that meat has fat. But you need to think of the AMOUNT of meat they eat compared to everything else. Americans drink soda as if it were water. They eat chips as if there'd be no more chips the next day. THAT is why Americans are obese, due to the amount of "junk food" that they eat. Not because of meat in general. Get your facts straight.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:12 PM
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Moderation, in my understanding.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:12 PM
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I have been talking about this a lot lately.
A really close friend of mine is vegetarian. I really respect that about him.

I never saw the point because you being vegetarian or vegan is not going to stop people treating animals badly. It has always happened and it always will happen. The way I see it it's better to eat meat because then the animals didn't die in vain.

But, I do not agree with treating animals badly. I once got into a fight with a guy because he picked up a kitty by it's ears.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:13 PM
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Well nowadays, like me on milk, [whole diff story] i only drink a certain kind because its from a family farm which i have visited, approved it, etc. And nowadays, the stuff they put in meat, like the shots of drugs so that the cows can have babies with their sisters/brothers/etc, its actually bad for you, and all that..
ehh and im not really a fan of vegetables from grocery stores anyways . i live in the country so i grow my own or get mine from the nearby farms XD.gif
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:15 PM
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i really could give less of a shit about who's vegetarian and who's not. all i know is that i'll never be vegetarian.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(chocokissez @ Dec 2 2007, 04:06 PM) *
Can you explain your reasons?
because yeah, i still believe its wrong, even though i have gone back into a meat eating diet [slowly]
and i will sound like a treehugger here, BUT eating animals does contribute to pollution, and global warming, etc.
and why do you think so many americans and others are so overweight?
eating meat was in the bible, yes. but does it say to kill cruelly, and inhumanely? meh. idk what else to say atm tbh
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God don't mind if you kill to survive but just to kill just for the sport of it then I agree it's wrong. Do you think a lion is cruel for killing a animal to feed it's babies?
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(1angel3 @ Dec 2 2007, 06:19 PM) *
God don't mind if you kill to survive
Well in that case, most people can produce enough food to survive and live healthily without the consumption of meat, so...
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:25 PM
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@1angel3
Not at all, because the babies need meat to survive, because they are animals, and they dont have things like tofu burgers, or 'fake meat', and they need it to survive. On the other hand, us as humans, we dont need it to survive unless you had some weird condition freaky thing[like i did], you can go with tofu burgers, and the fake meat, etc. and tbh, it does taste the same, just no guilt XD.gif
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(ArjunaCapulong @ Dec 2 2007, 04:23 PM) *
Well in that case, most people can produce enough food to survive and live healthily without the consumption of meat, so...


I agree, people can do what they want to do, so....

QUOTE(chocokissez @ Dec 2 2007, 04:25 PM) *
@1angel3
Not at all, because the babies need meat to survive, because they are animals, and they dont have things like tofu burgers, or 'fake meat', and they need it to survive. On the other hand, us as humans, we dont need it to survive unless you had some weird condition freaky thing[like i did], you can go with tofu burgers, and the fake meat, etc. and tbh, it does taste the same, just no guilt XD.gif


I believe Humans can do the same. We're animals too. I tasted tofu and it doesn't taste the same. Well maybe because I'm not use to it but there is a differences.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:33 PM
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Nono, not tofu, i agree by itself it is quite..plain..
but soy is abit different when its made into the mock chicken and beef, its quite good pinch.gif
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(chocokissez @ Dec 2 2007, 04:33 PM) *
Nono, not tofu, i agree by itself it is quite..plain..
but soy is abit different when its made into the mock chicken and beef, its quite good pinch.gif


Oh ok, you mention tofu. So you meant tofu and soy together and the other stuff you mention?
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(chocokissez @ Dec 2 2007, 06:06 PM) *
Can you explain your reasons?
because yeah, i still believe its wrong, even though i have gone back into a meat eating diet [slowly]
and i will sound like a treehugger here, BUT eating animals does contribute to pollution, and global warming, etc.
and why do you think so many americans and others are so overweight?
eating meat was in the bible, yes. but does it say to kill cruelly, and inhumanely? meh. idk what else to say atm tbh
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It contributes to population and global warming? You really shouldn't just make things up. Overpopulation wouldn't just stop if people stopped eating meat. Either a) there'd still be enough other food to go around, or b) there'd have to be another much more major issue, that could probably be solved easily enough by starting to eat meat again. If you're that concerned about the population, become a big pro-choice advocate. Global warming? That's not even worth acknowledging.

No one said anything about the bible, but regardless of all that, you've responding as though I said that becoming a vegetarian was pointless, and that's not what I said. Veganism is pretty pointless.

QUOTE(MissFits @ Dec 2 2007, 06:12 PM) *
I never saw the point because you being vegetarian or vegan is not going to stop people treating animals badly. It has always happened and it always will happen. The way I see it it's better to eat meat because then the animals didn't die in vain.

But, I do not agree with treating animals badly. I once got into a fight with a guy because he picked up a kitty by it's ears.

Yeah, I agree with that completely.
 
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you did it all on your own? you might have not done it right like on your portions.

i dont really eat meat anymore since i can't cook it ha.. and i didn't die.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:39 PM
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It's possible you moved into it too fast. Maybe you should of weaned yourself off of the meat slowly instead of quitting cold turkey.
Also, if you're a vegetarian, you should definitely take vitamins to supplement what you're missing. Sometimes alternate food products don't contain enough.

Good luck! I personally think it's a great alternative. C:
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:39 PM
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@cower

i said pollution not population ~~

@angel
yeah xD
 
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Oh. Well it doesn't really make your point any more valid. Possibly less.
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:41 PM
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QUOTE(chocokissez @ Dec 2 2007, 04:39 PM) *
@cower

i said pollution not population ~~

@angel
yeah xD


Oh I should try that biggrin.gif
 
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post Dec 2 2007, 06:43 PM
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So how does eating meat contribute to pollution and global warming?
 
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QUOTE(misoshiru @ Dec 2 2007, 07:43 PM) *
So how does eating meat contribute to pollution and global warming?

didnt you know 80% of pollution is from cow farts? rolleyes.gif
 
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Would that not be incentive to continue eating them?
 

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