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aesthetic
post Nov 20 2007, 12:28 PM
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Prove there isn't a god.
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 12:34 PM
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http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=175114
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 12:35 PM
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damnit.
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 12:36 PM
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;)

It's OK. I think it's time for a new thread anyways.

The tables have been turned, my fellow Atheists. Shall I ask the questions and you answer?
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 12:44 PM
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Go for it.
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 12:47 PM
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Atheists, why is it that you blame us for countless murders and the slaughter of innocent people when, if you look at Atheist regimes, ( AKA Communist regimes; i.e Mao Tse Tung, Kim Jung Il, Stalin, Lenin, Fidel Castro, etc,. etc. ) and you find that for each dictator, the killing and the body count starts in the millions for each dictator within a near few years?
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 12:58 PM
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That reminds me, I should have made a thread for people to point out to me why they think Bush is the devil, or like hitler.
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 01:01 PM
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because Bush is creating the USA into a fascist nation.
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 01:05 PM
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what are you talking about he's doing the complete opposite.

Ok explain why you think that.
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(aesthetic @ Nov 20 2007, 01:05 PM) *
what are you talking about he's doing the complete opposite.

Ok explain why you think that.

the PATRIOT act is one.
 
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QUOTE(monster @ Nov 20 2007, 12:09 PM) *
the PATRIOT act is one.


What about it
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 01:12 PM
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it being illegal and the fact that it gives the government the ability to check your information, monitor you, and even come into your house without a warrant. sounds like the SS to me.
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(monster @ Nov 20 2007, 12:12 PM) *
it being illegal and the fact that it gives the government the ability to check your information, monitor you, and even come into your house without a warrant. sounds like the SS to me.


If your not doing anything wrong then why would it matter, it's a good cause to save many life's for the government to be able to do that. Even so you can still speak freely as you want, you can still exercise all your rights, freedom isn't being taken away. Plus if the government is invading your home or checking your information they have good cause to. Since when can the government enter your home without a search warrant, never have I heard that.

what fascit government do you know allows you to speak your mind?

Hitler murdered millions of people how can you compare someone like that to bush, who's trying to protect our country and our people.
 
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QUOTE(aesthetic @ Nov 20 2007, 01:18 PM) *
If your not doing anything wrong then why would it matter, it's a good cause to save many life's for the government to be able to do that. Even so you can still speak freely as you want, you can still exercise all your rights, freedom isn't being taken away. Plus if the government is invading your home or checking your information they have good cause to. Since when can the government enter your home without a search warrant, never have I heard that.

what fascit government do you know allows you to speak your mind?

Hitler murdered millions of people how can you compare someone like that to bush, who's trying to protect our country and our people.


Uhm. Look at what the Jews did in Hitler's regime. They weren't doing anything bad, so I guess it was OK, right? Nothing happened to them, right?

They didn't almost get wiped of the face of the Earth, right?
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(monster @ Nov 20 2007, 12:30 PM) *
Uhm. Look at what the Jews did in Hitler's regime. They weren't doing anything bad, so I guess it was OK, right? Nothing happened to them, right?

They didn't almost get wiped of the face of the Earth, right?


Yes because we are jews and were suffering from genocide.
Were not suffering from genocide, what a horrible government, we have a president who's making sure were not being blown into pieces by terrorists. What a horrible government.

Were you in the military?
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(aesthetic @ Nov 20 2007, 02:36 PM) *
Yes because we are jews and were suffering from genocide.
Were not suffering from genocide, what a horrible government, we have a president who's making sure were not being blown into pieces by terrorists. What a horrible government.

uhhhhh? lol. are u so sure we aren't heading that way?

so are we debating bush here or are we going with the first post and doing a re-do of podo's old topic?

if so...
i can't prove that there isn't a god. i can't prove that there isn't a tooth fairy either, though. just because i can't prove there isn't one, doesn't mean automatically that there must be one. i fail to see any evidence that leads me to believe there is one, so i don't. that's basically it.

i don't really even know what this thread is debating, so i'll come back with more input when i do =/
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(monster @ Nov 20 2007, 12:47 PM) *
Atheists, why is it that you blame us for countless murders and the slaughter of innocent people when, if you look at Atheist regimes, ( AKA Communist regimes; i.e Mao Tse Tung, Kim Jung Il, Stalin, Lenin, Fidel Castro, etc,. etc. ) and you find that for each dictator, the killing and the body count starts in the millions for each dictator within a near few years?


This question answered, please.
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 07:23 PM
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Yea ok Bush is a total different topic. Back to the point.
 
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QUOTE(monster @ Nov 20 2007, 08:18 PM) *
This question answered, please.


someone of either title can do awful things. the problem i have with this is that atheism doesn't come with a set of morals. atheism is just the lack of belief in the existence of god. it doesn't teach us how to live our lives or anything of that nature. christianity on the other hand does. so when christians hold to "thou shalt not kill" and then go kill a bunch of people in gods name, i see a conflict there.

the titles just aren't the same to me, because one comes with a lot of baggage and one doesn't. i definitely don't deny that people who are atheists have done bad things. i think a lot of atheists just point it out because it's ironic considering what they claim to believe about love and what not





 
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post Nov 20 2007, 07:50 PM
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What makes the molecules in my head follow the same rules as the universe does?
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 08:57 PM
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Whoa, lots going on in here. So... just because I'm slow, this is the question at hand?
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Atheists, why is it that you blame us for countless murders and the slaughter of innocent people when, if you look at Atheist regimes, ( AKA Communist regimes; i.e Mao Tse Tung, Kim Jung Il, Stalin, Lenin, Fidel Castro, etc,. etc. ) and you find that for each dictator, the killing and the body count starts in the millions for each dictator within a near few years?
 
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post Nov 20 2007, 09:04 PM
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Yup thats the question.
 
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Ohh, I want to make an atheist Q&A thread.
This thread sucks - it's just a bit too meandering.
 
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post Nov 27 2007, 03:35 PM
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You guys mind if I close this topic? Seems like there are many topics like this one.
 
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