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I'm 10, I killed you, what should happen to me?
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post May 8 2005, 05:34 PM
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okay....wow...sad story but the fact is prison is going to do NOTHING for them. Prison could only make things worse. They are 9 and 10, more than 60% of people that are released from prison are locked back up again for another crime. Only 5% of people in prison rehabilitation are actually able to function in the real world after serving time and getting help. These boys won't have a prayer if they are locked up, they won't even recieve an education, so the most it would do is make them harder criminals. They need some serious help...not prison...and definietly not the death penlty. We cannot determine the underlying reason or cause for this event and we do not understand these boys pschye...so it is hard to say if they understood or not (we can't just go by their ages).
 
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post May 12 2005, 04:23 PM
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i say jail for life.
@ 9 and 12 they should know the difference between right and wrong and what they did to that poor little boy is horrible! ugh.
 
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post May 12 2005, 05:35 PM
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Oh wow pushed batteries up his anus? x___X i think they should go to juvie (sp?) and work community service.
 
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post Sep 2 2007, 04:04 PM
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For those of you that believe they didn't know what they are doing...Have you ever heard of Jeffery Dahmer? I'm sure you all have. He started out when he was4 laughing when they found some birds under the porch crying. When he was 6 he brought some tadpoles to school and the teacher gave them to another classmate. He went to the boys house and killed the tadpoles with motor oil out of rage at the kid. Not every child starts like this. But those boys knew what they were doing. I have a 9 year old and she knows what the consequence is for killing someone. She would never do it but she knows what happens and knows it is wrong. The only way they didn't know what they were doing is if their psycological profile says they aren't competent and can't understand a crime of such nature. They would have to have a disease that prevents them from knowing wrong or right. For example, a disease that revents their brain from aging, someone with downs may not understand right from wrong at that age as their brain develops slower than others. Anyway, my opinion is that they knew what they were doing was wrong. They should have been released unless they have had extreme psycological evaluations that determine that at the time they weren't competent enough to understand right from wrong. But that;s thinking logically. If it were my child that were killed in such a heinous manner I would say they should have been tried as adults and sentence to a term of life inprisionment or the death penalty.
 
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post Sep 2 2007, 07:23 PM
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If they knew what they were doing, then they should be put to death.
 
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post Sep 2 2007, 09:01 PM
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i think that the best possible option for a 10 year old murderer is juvenile hall with weekly/daily/hourly psychiatric treatment or whatever it takes to make this child learn love.
 
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post Sep 2 2007, 10:57 PM
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I wouldnt want the death penalty.. But a lot of jail time.

They still knew what they were doing was wrong.
 
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post Sep 3 2007, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Sep 2 2007, 10:01 PM) *
i think that the best possible option for a 10 year old murderer is juvenile hall with weekly/daily/hourly psychiatric treatment or whatever it takes to make this child learn love.


Learn love? What?! Are you serious? THink of it this way. You can take the ganster out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the gangster. Meaning, it will always be with him. That is why I think people locking others in jail for a long time will change them. Do you think their surroundings change in jail? It's not church where everyone sings and gets along. It's probably worse. Now after that experience, the government decides to let them out. So, now they have a more violent personality back in a normal or violent setting. What kind of rehabilitation is that? Nothing. That's why jail is a waste of time and tax payers dollars. People complain about taxes all the time, but yet we wont kill those who have killed others. It only makes sense.

People cant change people. It doesn't work like that. It's like our government is being run by ten year olds. Ridiculous.

After America becomes a communist state, I'm going to move to an island where those who kill, will be killed, regardless of age, sex, religion, and so forth.
 
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post Sep 3 2007, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Sep 2 2007, 07:01 PM) *
i think that the best possible option for a 10 year old murderer is juvenile hall with weekly/daily/hourly psychiatric treatment or whatever it takes to make this child learn love.


Yeah. They can strap them to a chair, tape their eyelids open while forcing them to watch Barney for hours on end. shifty.gif

But seriously these kids do need help. They need to go to jail for a long time.
 
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post Sep 12 2007, 03:00 PM
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I think they should have the death penalty. If they were older they would have, whats the difference? Age? Well whoever let them out is stupid as hell.
 
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post Sep 12 2007, 03:56 PM
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Just because someone is sent to jail for a long time, it doesn't mean it'll change who they are. I think those boys need serious therapy and psychoanalysis. I believe that they were old enough to understand the extent of their crimes at that age and they should not be granted the new identities.
 
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post Oct 3 2007, 11:38 PM
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jail, counseling, therapy, and more counseling.
 
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post Oct 4 2007, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(usnstgwife2011 @ Sep 2 2007, 02:04 PM) *
If it were my child that were killed...




You guys keep putting yourself in the situation of the parents of the child that was killed...

Why not put yourself in the position of the parents of the child who did the killing?


Honestly, kids are seriously smarter than we think. I think they knew what they were doing. But before you go throwing the death penalty at them, how do you think their parents felt. If it were me? I'd jump of the highest building around...
 
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This is so disturbing ohmy.gif I don't know what to say
 
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QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Sep 2 2007, 08:23 PM) *
If they knew what they were doing, then they should be put to death.


AGREE!!
 
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post Oct 27 2007, 11:02 PM
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i think they have that phycological disorder where they do knowwhat's right and wrong it's just they have absolutely no conscience. how come the article doesn't mention if they those boys had psychoanalysis? i serious think that's what they need before the crime is judged. but if i'm correct and they do have that disorder(i can't remember the name dammnit) they don't deserve to go out in the public, becuase i don't they they are "human". there's a high chance that they'll just do that again...those type of people don't know love or compassion or sympathy.

edit:i think it's called schizoid
 
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post Oct 29 2007, 09:03 AM
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Man everyone who becomes a murderer or something always claims that they have a disorder. If they're that ill and don't know right from wrong, how are they going to know that dying is a bad thing. You can tell them they're going to the land of candy where you can do w/e you want, then proceed to execute them. If y'alls state doesn't have the death penalty, come to Texas. We kill you back.
 
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post Oct 29 2007, 09:48 AM
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It depends on HOW they killed the people. If it was brutal they need to be in prison, at least until they are 20. At the age of 20 they should be up for parole.

I have a really morbid fascination with killers and a wide collection of books about them. The following information comes from "The Serial Killer Files" by Harold Schechter, although I am sure it can be found by simply googling the names. I will put anything mildly disturbing in a spoiler code.

Mary Bell was 11 years old when she started killing. She started assaulting other kids in 1968 when she beat up four younger children (it does not state their ages). Ten days later the body of 3 year old Martin Brown was found With blood and saliva oozing out of his mouth. She was excited and bragged pestered the mother endlessly. Two month later she murdered yet another 3 year old child They found his body between two cinder block, he had been sexually violated with a pair of scissors and the letter M was carved into his chest.. After being questioned she laughed about what she had done. Mary was sent to a girls home, which she was kicked out of in 2 years and sent to prison. In 1977 they transferred her to a less secure prison, from which she escaped. She was apprehended quickly. She was released from prison in 1980. She has committed no known crimes since her release.

Jesse Harding Pomeroy was 12 when he began assaulting other children. Over a 9 month reign of terror he lured an uncountable amount of children to woods where he bound, beat, and tortured them. After caught he was sent to reform school for less than 17 months. After being released he promptly commit a pair of appalling mutilation/murders on a 10 year old girl and a fourteen year old boy. At the age of 14 he was sentenced to death. A controversy soon erupted and his sentence was commuted to life. He lived until 1932 and spent over 40 years of his 60 year imprisonment in solitary confinement.

Sorry it was so long winded.

 
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post Oct 29 2007, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 29 2007, 08:03 AM) *
Man everyone who becomes a murderer or something always claims that they have a disorder. If they're that ill and don't know right from wrong, how are they going to know that dying is a bad thing. You can tell them they're going to the land of candy where you can do w/e you want, then proceed to execute them. If y'alls state doesn't have the death penalty, come to Texas. We kill you back.

Touching.
And very true. whistling.gif

 
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post Oct 31 2007, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 29 2007, 09:03 PM) *
Man everyone who becomes a murderer or something always claims that they have a disorder. If they're that ill and don't know right from wrong, how are they going to know that dying is a bad thing. You can tell them they're going to the land of candy where you can do w/e you want, then proceed to execute them. If y'alls state doesn't have the death penalty, come to Texas. We kill you back.

the disorder i was talking about is called schizoid and they do know what's right and wrong, they just don't care as long as it's not happening to them.
 
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post Dec 9 2007, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Jun 3 2004, 02:31 PM) *
10 year olds pretty much know whats going on, so they should be jailed until they are at least 30... maybe then they would have learned a lesson. they don't need the death penalty though, because children learn lessons much easier than adults



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post Dec 11 2007, 05:26 AM
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I think I know that a 9 and 10 year old kid would know that leaving a stoned (no pun intended) kid in the way of a train with batteries up his ass at the age of 2 WOULD kill him.

They knew what they were doing, and I think the exact same should be done to them. If I had the privelage to do whatever I could with them, I'd:

-Shove batteries up their ass
-Pour acid in their eyes
-Rip their nails off
-Whip them
-Let one watch (the one that still retain some ability to see after the acid, or I'll only acid ones' eyes) while the other is run over by a train
-Tie the survivor to the tracks, while slowly dismembering him

I'm not an evil person. These two monsters deserve it, however. They weren't provoked, and they did it to a 3-year-old? I don't know if you believe in Satan, but DAMN those kids are hellspawns. Perhaps even worse. This kind of shit rarely happens in MOVIES.

Death penalty is too easy and painless for them.
 

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