Pregnant adolescents in school Options

[jesusisthebestth...]

If kids that are pregnant cant go to the school, I dont think teachers should either. My art teacher is preggo, and shes really bitchy.

Everyone wants her go off and leave and have her baby so we can have a sub.

aint that a bitch? that happened to me in english class, i effin hated my english teacher...she was terrible once she got pregnant. she was short tempered, graded differently, took forever to return assignments and missed so many days! that's what i'm talking about...send the pregnant people home, dammit!! lol

[RAWRstephishere]

aint that a bitch? that happened to me in english class, i effin hated my english teacher...she was terrible once she got pregnant. she was short tempered, graded differently, took forever to return assignments and missed so many days! that's what i'm talking about...send the pregnant people home, dammit!! lol

Haha. Just the bad pregnant teachers.

Your siggy is giving me a headache.

[jesusisthebestth...]

oops-y...i just like the effect. would u like me to slow it down a little, hunnie?

[RAWRstephishere]

oops-y...i just like the effect. would u like me to slow it down a little, hunnie?

Please.

[jesusisthebestth...]

it's fixed hunnie...only 4 u, though

[brooklyneast05]

how sweet

[RAWRstephishere]

it's fixed hunnie...only 4 u, though

Aww.
Thanks.

[jesusisthebestth...]

how sweet

whatever lol

[ParanoidAndroid]

no i don't see the point because you can't help being african american, you can help getting pregnant. i think having pregnant teens in school condones teenage pregnancy. of course you shouldn't be ostracized for getting pregnant at a young age, but so many young girls act like it's "cute" to be pregnant, especially where i live. i think they should have to go to alternative schools so they can see how greatly their lives have changed.

that's true but sexual desire is within everyone. And yes people make mistakes. And since when did public American education make important rules just to satisfy your eyes? And what about a pregnant woman is disgusting? Her belly? It's huge and it just meant that she had sex? so? It's her business and I don't understand why corpulence in the stomach repulses you so much. I think it's better than seeing an obese bitch rolling down the school hallways but you don't see me running down the school board telling them to kick them out just to please my virgin eyes!

As for the teacher thing, they need money. And being a teacher they don't have enough of it! Honestly I never give a shit if a teacher is bitchy for whatever reason. I would be too if I'm teaching apathetic students who take their education for granted.

[jesusisthebestth...]

As for the teacher thing, they need money. And being a teacher they don't have enough of it! Honestly I never give a shit if a teacher is bitchy for whatever reason. I would be too if I'm teaching apathetic students who take their education for granted.

teachers make a reasonable amount of money annually. the days when teachers are underpaid have long gone.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

Based on what? And regardless, missing an entire extra year of work would still hurt.

And back on pregnant teens, would it really stop the "buzz" to remove them from school? It doesn't stop people from knowing the girls, so these things will still be talked about. Even if they were to just leave of their own accord without telling anyone, then you have gossip about what happened. Come on, people will talk, and if that really bothers you that much, you need to get over yourself. Plus, these "alternate schools" are just going to waste tax money, and if there's only one per county and it's no where near where a girl lives, then it may be in her best interest to stop going, which would be terrible for her future, as well as her child's.

[NoSex]

no i don't see the point because you can't help being african american, you can help getting pregnant.

Who cares? Your argument is identical to early segregationist positions. You just don't feel safe, comfortable, and virgin with those awful trashy pregnant girls near you, so, you think it's your right to deny them their education. You're a bigot.

There is no reason a pregnant women, girl, anything, should be denied the same education as you or I merely because she has a swollen belly and a disgusting little rat child inside of her. People upset one another all the time, but that doesn't give us the right to deny those people who upset us basic rights. Grow up.

[jesusisthebestth...]

Who cares? Your argument is identical to early segregationist positions. You just don't feel safe, comfortable, and virgin with those awful trashy pregnant girls near you, so, you think it's your right to deny them their education. You're a bigot.

There is no reason a pregnant women, girl, anything, should be denied the same education as you or I merely because she has a swollen belly and a disgusting little rat child inside of her. People upset one another all the time, but that doesn't give us the right to deny those people who upset us basic rights. Grow up.

1. i'd appreciate it if you "attacked" my argument, rather than me. i am not a bigot, and you have no right to call me such. you're being rude because your counter argument was not effective in supporting your statement.

2. removing pregnant teens is completely different from racial segregation. like i said, you can PREVENT pregnancy, but you cannot prevent ethnicity, race, or skin color. this is a fact, why you even compared something like the removal of teenagers, who are showing, from schools to jim crow legislation in the united states i will never know.

3. what are you arguing exactly? clearly you don't support pregnant teens in school, you've called them "awful" and "trashy." if you're supposed to be sarcastic, try again, because i never said any of those things about pregnant teenagers. i clearly stated that i believe pregnant teenagers should be removed from public school settings and placed in alternative schools where they can learn just as they did in public schools without the constant classroom distraction!

Based on what? And regardless, missing an entire extra year of work would still hurt.

when mothers use maternity leave they are paid, they don't just leave their jobs and get nothing in return. not only do teachers have maternity leave, they're members of a union, and they're guaranteed a job once they come back from maternity leave. so what exactly would it hurt?

[Amaranthus]

No.
No one should be forced out of school due to pregnancy.
School is for learning, and until it reaches the point where she is incapable of learning anything due to pregnancy, then it isn't necessary to expel someone.

[brooklyneast05]

1. i'd appreciate it if you "attacked" my argument, rather than me. i am not a bigot, and you have no right to call me such. you're being rude because your counter argument was not effective in supporting your statement.

and not wanting to sit next to a pregnant woman isn't rude?
ur argument isn't all that well supported either i don't think, nobody so far seems to get what the big deal is or why u are so distracted by pregnant girls
it's what, 12 to 1 ?

i clearly stated that i believe pregnant teenagers should be removed from public school settings and placed in alternative schools where they can learn just as they did in public schools without the constant classroom distraction!

there are TONS of distractions in classrooms all the time, i don't see how this is any different or more distracting than anything else
what exactly distracts u about them? because i'm still missing that part i guess

[ParanoidAndroid]

2. removing pregnant teens is completely different from racial segregation. like i said, you can PREVENT pregnancy, but you cannot prevent ethnicity, race, or skin color. this is a fact, why you even compared something like the removal of teenagers, who are showing, from schools to jim crow legislation in the united states i will never know.

Well you're basically denying their rights. And do you honestly think alternative school would be better for them? Ninja please Just because this is something you can prevent is irrelevant. Pregnancy doesn't really harm the classroom environment if SOME PEOPLE were just mature enough to accept the reality of this world.

3. what are you arguing exactly? clearly you don't support pregnant teens in school, you've called them "awful" and "trashy." if you're supposed to be sarcastic, try again, because i never said any of those things about pregnant teenagers. i clearly stated that i believe pregnant teenagers should be removed from public school settings and placed in alternative schools where they can learn just as they did in public schools without the constant classroom distraction!

Constant classroom distraction? The only people who are getting distracted are the people who are making a big fuss out of this nonsense.

when mothers use maternity leave they are paid, they don't just leave their jobs and get nothing in return. not only do teachers have maternity leave, they're members of a union, and they're guaranteed a job once they come back from maternity leave. so what exactly would it hurt?

They get paid but in a significantly less amount. I would know about this since my sister and sister-in-law had to go under maternity leave. And most of the time very thrifty bosses like to put holes on that sort of deal.

I really do not get why you're so into getting them out of public school. True people will gossip. True there will be negative feedback, but that sort of thing is daily, especially in high school. And does it really look gross? Do you want me to repeat myself about the obese kid who rolls down the hallway and how repulsive he looks but you don't see me marching down the school board and take away his rights to a public education? Wow I just repeated myself... but anyways obesity is something you can prevent. And yes it gives negative feedback. Should we put them in alternative school? No.

[1angel3]

I was reading a book the other day and there was a story about all these kids and parents complaining because they were kicked out of school because they were black, I think it's totally fair, I don't want to see n****rs beside me in my white classes, but that's just America.

Get the point?

I see your point, you can't discriminate against anyone simply because they whatever.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

when mothers use maternity leave they are paid, they don't just leave their jobs and get nothing in return. not only do teachers have maternity leave, they're members of a union, and they're guaranteed a job once they come back from maternity leave. so what exactly would it hurt?

Um, but not that much. And only for so long. So if they have to take off the time in which they're pregnant but still able to teach, then they are most definitely losing money, since obviously a lot more time will have to be taken off once the child's born (the usual use of maternity leave). Unless there's health issues, there's no reason not to proceed as normal.

[Comptine]

teachers make a reasonable amount of money annually. the days when teachers are underpaid have long gone.

You got to be kidding me. Maybe in your school or neighborhood. Teachers in well off neighborhoods are extremely well paid because the parents of the kids help fund the salaries, therefore, better paid teachers equal better education for their kids.

Everywhere else, especially in public schools, teachers aren't make that much money. Sure they get a ton of holidays, but they don't make that much money. That is why in many urban areas, the public school system is understaffed. Teachers get paid very little and that's no incentive to become one.

And yes, there is some bigotry to your argument. If those girls (cause what kinda teenage has unprotected sex?) had closed their legs, they wouldn't be in this situation. So never mind the fact that they are taking responsibility by carrying the baby to term , and never mind the fact they're still trying to stay in school; just kick them out because they are a "distraction".

You are advocate alternative schools for pregnant teens. Can you guarantee that their education will be on the same level? If the education is just the same, then maybe it's fine. But even if it was on the same level, then there is no point in switching them because they get the same education.

It just sounds like to me that you want pregnant girls out of schools because it's a "distraction" and it's not right. There's no valid reasoning to kicking out when they serve no harm to other students or themselves.

And the girls were kicked out because they were pregnant. No other reason. They were kicked out because they were pregnant, which isn't a very valid reason.

[jesusisthebestth...]

i'm not sure if this happens in any other schools, but it happens all throughout the state of maryland. it's not "personal opinion" here, it is actually school legislation that pregnant teens are put into alternative schools with other pregnant teenagers

[ParanoidAndroid]

Well we're debating if that sort of law is "right" are we not? Just because you say it's a law now we're supposed to withdraw our opinions? And since this is an informal and not to mention, online debate, it is all opinion.

I don't see a valid reason like all the others and I have said so many times before. I really don't. Do they seriously think it's not a great learning environment to have pregnant women in class? Are they serious? Please that's just bullshit they feed to the public. We all know why they really put them on alternative school. Nicki put up a good point about this:

And back on pregnant teens, would it really stop the "buzz" to remove them from school? It doesn't stop people from knowing the girls, so these things will still be talked about. Even if they were to just leave of their own accord without telling anyone, then you have gossip about what happened. Come on, people will talk, and if that really bothers you that much, you need to get over yourself. Plus, these "alternate schools" are just going to waste tax money, and if there's only one per county and it's no where near where a girl lives, then it may be in her best interest to stop going, which would be terrible for her future, as well as her child's

[lilsnoopy]

We have the teen parent program at our school
So they go to class and can take care of the baby for the day

They have every right to g to public school. Its called public school for a reason. Actually, I dont see why they would kick them out!
If anyone uses the exucse, "its because they are a distraction", I would point to the guy across the room who has the tatoos and punker clothes with piercings and say "so is he, but he still attends this school".

[queen]

i believe that it can be a distraction to other students in the class, which i think is why they're taken out of school anyway.

a lot of students' faces are distracting. i think ugly people shouldn't be allowed in school either.

i think having pregnant teens in school condones teenage pregnancy. of course you shouldn't be ostracized for getting pregnant at a young age, but so many young girls act like it's "cute" to be pregnant, especially where i live. i think they should have to go to alternative schools so they can see how greatly their lives have changed.

i think allowing kids to wear red or blue promotes gang violence. and allowing them to wear all black? now that's just depressing. and how 'bout these fckers who speak in "ghetto slang"? they shouldn't even be allowed in the building! i mean, who the hell can understand them anyway? too much of that darn snoop dogg, if you ask me.

well, what if her water bursts in school? it's not like school nurses are trained to handle that sort of thing? or what if she has a birth "scare" where she thinks she's having contractions but she really isn't?

yah, school nurses are idiots. i mean, they wouldn't even know how to pick up a phone and call an ambulence -_-". wow, they're incredibly useless.

the school doesnt have time for this, handling these issues would require that the teacher take at least some class time to tend to that student's needs.

the school doesn't have time for dumbasses who can't grasp extremely simple math problems either. forget going over homework or reviewing tests. there's no time for that bullshit. man, anyone who isn't asian should just be homeschooled!

aint that a bitch? that happened to me in english class, i effin hated my english teacher...she was terrible once she got pregnant. she was short tempered, graded differently, took forever to return assignments and missed so many days! that's what i'm talking about...send the pregnant people home, dammit!! lol

yes, and have all female teachers take a week off every month, 'cause none of us wanna deal with the pms. and every bitch with an attitude should just be expelled.

removing pregnant teens is completely different from racial segregation. like i said, you can PREVENT pregnancy, but you cannot prevent ethnicity, race, or skin color.

one can prevent acting like a bitch, too. or being impolite. or being an annoying loudass. or being "ghetto" or "punk" or "emo" or "goth". yet these fckers are still allowed an education.

honestly, i can think of hundreds of assholes who i don't wanna see in school. pregnant girls would probably be one of the last on my list.

[AThorpedo]

I fail to see how someone being pregnant is so disruptive to anyone's learning process that the pregnant girl would have to removed from the school that they are currently in. Unless you are the father or mother, you aren't directly involved in the pregnancy. In other words, who cares? There are far greater problems with schools in America than, oh man, girls getting pregnant. I think schools putting far more focus on sports than learning to be far more offensive and distraction than all the pregnant women in the world.
Well, maybe not all of them.

Out of curiosity, do the schools in your area offer abstinence-only sex education? It wouldn't surprise me, and it would lead back to the whole bigger problems in the American educational system idea.

[*Uronacid*]

I agree, make em get home schooled!!! I don't want to see that potbellied girl in school when I'm taking a test. That's annoying. I say, "Bake your buns at home bitch!!!"