Is homosexuality determined at birth, or is it a choice? Options

[*Uronacid*]

I don't understand why everyone is still talking about this. You're all a bunch of kids. Do you think a topic on cB is going to determine whether f*gs are determined from birth or choice. Are you scientists? No. Not even close.

Leave it up to them. They're working on it. So, just shut your damn mouths and sit back and not worry about it.

Go fuck yourself, we want to argue.

[EmoEyelinerx]

I think that it would be a choice or in some cases, a learned behavor.

[*Uronacid*]

I think that it would be a choice or in some cases, a learned behavor.

But you aren't debating... why do you think that?

[MissFits]

It's determined in the womb.

There are gay animals, and gay bugs.

If it happens naturally in mother nature, what is stopping it from happening naturally in humans?

It is DISGUSTING how some people can look at it like an illness, and that is the main problem with organized religion.
I hate close minded people.

[*Uronacid*]

It's determined in the womb.

There are gay animals, and gay bugs.

If it happens naturally in mother nature, what is stopping it from happening naturally in humans?

It is DISGUSTING how some people can look at it like an illness, and that is the main problem with organized religion.
I hate close minded people.

Gay bugs?

I think it's a mental problem. My pastor told me it was a sin. He told me to open my mind to the idea of gay people not being born gay. He told me to let the idea of homosexuality being a choice enter into my open mind. He told me this while he was showing homosexual deeds to me so I could know which ones are sins.

He said that even Satan hates homosexuals. He said that Satan's number was 666 and not 44. He says that Satan turns the up the thermostat in hell when he sees a gay. This is why I burn gay bugs with a magnifying glass. I believe him. I think that he is a very nice man.

He said that my body is a temple unto the Lord. He said, "Would God want a Penis inside the back door of his temple?" This makes sense to me because I wouldn't want a giant penis in the back door of my house. Why would God want a giant penis in his back-door? I want to be more like God. I would probably beat it out that penis with a newspaper, just like a dirty stray dog. I would say, "No! Get out!"

I think that he has opened my mind, and you are a liar. You are feeding the world with lies. Bugs don't have penis. How can you tell a bug sexual orientation. If you open your mind you will know this.

You should be a gay for saying this. Jesus is in your heart. You just have to look around at nature. Just look at all the trees. You will believe.

[jammylise]

I think it could be both.
At birth and by choice.

because someone could be born liking the same sex but later not really be into it i guess

[MissFits]

Gay bugs?

I think it's a mental problem. My pastor told me it was a sin. He told me to open my mind to the idea of gay people not being born gay. He told me to let the idea of homosexuality being a choice enter into my open mind. He told me this while he was showing homosexual deeds to me so I could know which ones are sins.

He said that even Satan hates homosexuals. He said that Satan's number was 666 and not 44. He says that Satan turns the up the thermostat in hell when he sees a gay. This is why I burn gay bugs with a magnifying glass. I believe him. I think that he is a very nice man.

He said that my body is a temple unto the Lord. He said, "Would God want a Penis inside the back door of his temple?" This makes sense to me because I wouldn't want a giant penis in the back door of my house. Why would God want a giant penis in his back-door? I want to be more like God. I would probably beat it out that penis with a newspaper, just like a dirty stray dog. I would say, "No! Get out!"

I think that he has opened my mind, and you are a liar. You are feeding the world with lies. Bugs don't have penis. How can you tell a bug sexual orientation. If you open your mind you will know this.

You should be a gay for saying this. Jesus is in your heart. You just have to look around at nature. Just look at all the trees. You will believe.

I would like it to be known that he wrote me a message telling me he replied, because this was so important I had to read it.


How dare you call me a liar. Just because you're priest showed you some gay porn to "open your mind" to Jesus doesn't mean it's true!
Have you ever seen Jesus, or seen god, or seen someone be sent to hell for being gay. NO YOU HAVEN'T. I have seen gay dogs, and gay monkeys with my own f*cking eyes.

People like you that try to force your religion on people are sick. That is a learned behavior and it is disgusting. America is the land of the free, and just because Christians don't believe in gay marriage doesn't mean it's wrong. Not everyone in America is a Christian, so not everyone should have to follow Christian principals. That's why most people come to America, to free themselves from religious persecution, only to receive it here. It's sick and wrong, and we as Americans need to realize this.

Now, for the truth. Your priest is a sick, sick man. He showed you gay acts to show you what was wrong? That's wrong. That will mess up anyone if shoved down their throat long enough. (no pun intended )

I am not offended by anything you say to me. Saying I "should be a gay" is just dumb. You need to arm yourself with more than what your mighty priest tells you before you try to tell me how it is.

If you believe in God so much, and want to be like him QUIT BASHING PEOPLE FOR THE WAY THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES. If you are right, God will come and teach all us "sinners" a lesson himself. SO LET HIM DO IT! If he is as powerful as they teach you he doesn't need some young dumb-@ss sticking up for him.

[cyb3r0ptik]

I would like it to be known that he wrote me a message telling me he replied, because this was so important I had to read it.
How dare you call me a liar. Just because you're priest showed you some gay porn to "open your mind" to Jesus doesn't mean it's true!
Have you ever seen Jesus, or seen god, or seen someone be sent to hell for being gay. NO YOU HAVEN'T. I have seen gay dogs, and gay monkeys with my own f*cking eyes.

People like you that try to force your religion on people are sick. That is a learned behavior and it is disgusting. America is the land of the free, and just because Christians don't believe in gay marriage doesn't mean it's wrong. Not everyone in America is a Christian, so not everyone should have to follow Christian principals. That's why most people come to America, to free themselves from religious persecution, only to receive it here. It's sick and wrong, and we as Americans need to realize this.

Now, for the truth. Your priest is a sick, sick man. He showed you gay acts to show you what was wrong? That's wrong. That will mess up anyone if shoved down their throat long enough. (no pun intended )

I am not offended by anything you say to me. Saying I "should be a gay" is just dumb. You need to arm yourself with more than what your mighty priest tells you before you try to tell me how it is.

If you believe in God so much, and want to be like him QUIT BASHING PEOPLE FOR THE WAY THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES. If you are right, God will come and teach all us "sinners" a lesson himself. SO LET HIM DO IT! If he is as powerful as they teach you he doesn't need some young dumb-@ss sticking up for him.

Shazam!

Win.

[brooklyneast05]

I would like it to be known that he wrote me a message telling me he replied, because this was so important I had to read it.

ha yea, that's kinda lame
kinda like..
the rest of ur post

How dare you call me a liar. Just because you're priest showed you some gay porn to "open your mind" to Jesus doesn't mean it's true!
Have you ever seen Jesus, or seen god, or seen someone be sent to hell for being gay. NO YOU HAVEN'T. I have seen gay dogs, and gay monkeys with my own f*cking eyes.

People like you that try to force your religion on people are sick. That is a learned behavior and it is disgusting. America is the land of the free, and just because Christians don't believe in gay marriage doesn't mean it's wrong. Not everyone in America is a Christian, so not everyone should have to follow Christian principals. That's why most people come to America, to free themselves from religious persecution, only to receive it here. It's sick and wrong, and we as Americans need to realize this.

Now, for the truth. Your priest is a sick, sick man. He showed you gay acts to show you what was wrong? That's wrong. That will mess up anyone if shoved down their throat long enough. (no pun intended )

I am not offended by anything you say to me. Saying I "should be a gay" is just dumb. You need to arm yourself with more than what your mighty priest tells you before you try to tell me how it is.

If you believe in God so much, and want to be like him QUIT BASHING PEOPLE FOR THE WAY THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES. If you are right, God will come and teach all us "sinners" a lesson himself. SO LET HIM DO IT! If he is as powerful as they teach you he doesn't need some young dumb-@ss sticking up for him.

i mean this is just dandy and all but i don't see how u can read uronacid's post and think he's being completely serious and get so offended, and yea bla bla bla u said "i am not offended by anything you say to me". yea well the length of ur post makes it seem otherwise

DOES NOBODY KNOW BULLSHIT WHEN THEY READ IT?

You need to arm yourself with more than what your mighty priest tells you before you try to tell me how it is.

this is SO right, he should have armed himself with a real defense on this matter, such as the sexuality of bugs


for the most part, i think it's a learned behavior.
and i don't understand a lot of people(not all) who "come out" and all the sudden act different, in a way that fits more into the gay stereotype of how gay people should act. that's extremely ridiculous to me, i don't see why a gay man would act all that much different than a straight man in normal day to day routines. i know gay guys who u wouldn't know they were gay...and that's how i think it should be. i'm not saying they should hide anything, i just don't think it needs to be thrown in everyones face that OMG THEY'RE GAY. if it's "not a big deal" then why the f**k act like it is. i think i'm off subject, but oh well, i think it's a learned behavior more than anything

[cyb3r0ptik]

ha yea, that's kinda lame
kinda like..
the rest of ur post
i mean this is just dandy and all but i don't see how u can read uronacid's post and think he's being completely serious and get so offended, and yea bla bla bla u said "i am not offended by anything you say to me". yea well the length of ur post makes it seem otherwise

DOES NOBODY KNOW BULLSHIT WHEN THEY READ IT?
this is SO right, he should have armed himself with a real defense on this matter, such as the sexuality of bugs
for the most part, i think it's a learned behavior.
and i don't understand a lot of people(not all) who "come out" and all the sudden act different, in a way that fits more into the gay stereotype of how gay people should act. that's extremely ridiculous to me, i don't see why a gay man would act all that much different than a straight man in normal day to day routines. i know gay guys who u wouldn't know they were gay...and that's how i think it should be. i'm not saying they should hide anything, i just don't think it needs to be thrown in everyones face that OMG THEY'RE GAY. if it's "not a big deal" then why the f**k act like it is. i think i'm off subject, but oh well, i think it's a learned behavior more than anything

being gay, not so much a choice.
acting out your gaydom... THATs the choice.

[brooklyneast05]

being gay, not so much a choice.
acting out your gaydom... THATs the choice.

very true
but when people choose to act out their "gaydom" it makes me feel it's more a learned behavior than anything
makes it seem like it's for attention and that it needs to be evident they are aren't straight

[cyb3r0ptik]

very true
but when people choose to act out their "gaydom" it makes me feel it's more a learned behavior than anything
makes it seem like it's for attention and that it needs to be evident they are aren't straight

so let me understand this...

a straight person, acting straight, and kissing on a member of the opposite sex, and being girly when they're a girl, and masculine when they're a guy is NOT learned behaviour...
a girl who preferrs to play sports and be "one of the guys" is NOT showing off learned behaviour, she's just a "tomboy"...
they aren't doing anything for attention, they're just expressing themselves in the way THEY like to express themselves.

but if a guy is attracted to the same sex, and expresses himself in a femanine way, it's a learned behaviour, or a way to get attention, because it's not the social norm?
just because he acts different?


well i guess all those kids who express themselves by their clothing style, or through painting, singing, or creative writing, or other means of expression are all products of "learned behaviour" and not doing something that just might come naturally to them.

or are expressivly gay people exempt from this, because of their sexual orientation?

[brooklyneast05]

so let me understand this...

a straight person, acting straight, and kissing on a member of the opposite sex, and being girly when they're a girl, and masculine when they're a guy is NOT learned behaviour...
a girl who preferrs to play sports and be "one of the guys" is NOT showing off learned behaviour, she's just a "tomboy"...
they aren't doing anything for attention, they're just expressing themselves in the way THEY like to express themselves.

but if a guy is attracted to the same sex, and expresses himself in a femanine way, it's a learned behaviour, or a way to get attention, because it's not the social norm?
just because he acts different?
well i guess all those kids who express themselves by their clothing style, or through painting, singing, or creative writing, or other means of expression are all products of "learned behaviour" and not doing something that just might come naturally to them.

or are expressivly gay people exempt from this, because of their sexual orientation?

did u read my post?
i specifically said people who "come out" and all the sudden act a different way that fits into the gay stereotype

i don't know what to say because i don't think we're even talking about the same thing

[cyb3r0ptik]

did u read my post?
i specifically said people who "come out" and all the sudden act a different way that fits into the gay stereotype

i don't know what to say because i don't think we're even talking about the same thing

when people come out, it's like a weight lifted off thier shoulders, and they feel that they can finally be who they are without feeling restricted.

-- yes i read your post, you just weren't specific to what you meant by . when they act out their gaydom, it makes you feel like it's a learned behaviour.
i took it as them being gay is a learned behaviour, and them acting who they are is a learned behaviour.--

[brooklyneast05]

i guess it's the feminine thing i don't get
i get that SOME guys are more feminine than others, but i don't get why so many gay guys are.
i don't get why the majority of gay guys wouldn't just act like the majority of straight guys in normal day to day conversations and what not

who knows
i don't get it
maybe someday ill understand

[MissFits]

i guess it's the feminine thing i don't get
i get that SOME guys are more feminine than others, but i don't get why so many gay guys are.
i don't get why the majority of gay guys wouldn't just act like the majority of straight guys in normal day to day conversations and what not

who knows
i don't get it
maybe someday ill understand

I would say it's half and half.
It might even be safe to say that MOST gay guys act like "normal" guys.

The ones you notice, are the ones that are flamboyant.
The ones that aren't flamboyant are overlooked, because they seem so "normal"

[cyb3r0ptik]

i guess it's the feminine thing i don't get
i get that SOME guys are more feminine than others, but i don't get why so many gay guys are.
i don't get why the majority of gay guys wouldn't just act like the majority of straight guys in normal day to day conversations and what not

who knows
i don't get it
maybe someday ill understand

because that's who they are.

plain and simple.

there's nothing more TO understand.

[*Uronacid*]

I would like it to be known that he wrote me a message telling me he replied, because this was so important I had to read it.
How dare you call me a liar. Just because you're priest showed you some gay porn to "open your mind" to Jesus doesn't mean it's true!
Have you ever seen Jesus, or seen god, or seen someone be sent to hell for being gay. NO YOU HAVEN'T. I have seen gay dogs, and gay monkeys with my own f*cking eyes.

People like you that try to force your religion on people are sick. That is a learned behavior and it is disgusting. America is the land of the free, and just because Christians don't believe in gay marriage doesn't mean it's wrong. Not everyone in America is a Christian, so not everyone should have to follow Christian principals. That's why most people come to America, to free themselves from religious persecution, only to receive it here. It's sick and wrong, and we as Americans need to realize this.

Now, for the truth. Your priest is a sick, sick man. He showed you gay acts to show you what was wrong? That's wrong. That will mess up anyone if shoved down their throat long enough. (no pun intended )

I am not offended by anything you say to me. Saying I "should be a gay" is just dumb. You need to arm yourself with more than what your mighty priest tells you before you try to tell me how it is.

If you believe in God so much, and want to be like him QUIT BASHING PEOPLE FOR THE WAY THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES. If you are right, God will come and teach all us "sinners" a lesson himself. SO LET HIM DO IT! If he is as powerful as they teach you he doesn't need some young dumb-@ss sticking up for him.

Jesus said that you will reap what you sow. Have you hear this? No, I do not think you have. You see the farmer was a man, and he was not gay. If Jesus was not gay then how can't homosexuality be a choice? Amen brother. You need to open your eye to truth of the Book. People will see you and your point of view. They say you are a dumb gay. Now, I try to be serious about things.

I try to love you as a brother in Christ, and you are persecuting me. You are persecuting me for all that has been done at calvary. My pastor has said that this will happen. You should repent of your sin. You are helping others goto burn in fire of hell. Do you want to burn.

Also, you are the one who is ignorant. I said Pastor, and I did not say priest. Learn your school. I goto very good school in Hong Kong, and I am very proud to be in America now. One thing I do not like about America is gay. Homosexual is very wrong here. People are waving rainbow, and rainbow is a sign that God would never flood the earth, but now gay is flooding America. This you cannot deny.

You are a liar. I do not bash people for gay. They are putting penis in back door of God's temple. I would not want Penis in my back door. What do you you say to that?

because that's who they are.

plain and simple.

there's nothing more TO understand.

You are evil. My pastor says you look like Satan, but not to fear. He says that you may have cancer from no eyebrow hair. Some say to pierce your skin is a sin. You're sinning. You are putting holes in the temple. What if someone put a hole in your house? You look like cow from Hong Kong. My mother is laughing. She says you are very Indian. This is a bad insult in my country. We say Indian are primitive. We do not value a primitive opinion.

[cyb3r0ptik]

Jesus said that you will reap what you sow. Have you hear this? No, I do not think you have. You see the farmer was a man, and he was not gay. If Jesus was not gay then how can't homosexuality be a choice? Amen brother. You need to open your eye to truth of the Book. People will see you and your point of view. They say you are a dumb gay. Now, I try to be serious about things.

I try to love you as a brother in Christ, and you are persecuting me. You are persecuting me for all that has been done at calvary. My pastor has said that this will happen. You should repent of your sin. You are helping others goto burn in fire of hell. Do you want to burn.

Also, you are the one who is ignorant. I said Pastor, and I did not say priest. Learn your school. I goto very good school in Hong Kong, and I am very proud to be in America now. One thing I do not like about America is gay. Homosexual is very wrong here. People are waving rainbow, and rainbow is a sign that God would never flood the earth, but now gay is flooding America. This you cannot deny.

You are a liar. I do not bash people for gay. They are putting penis in back door of God's temple. I would not want Penis in my back door. What do you you say to that?

and you need to learn that pushing religion on people, is not very religious.
Jesus also said "let he who is WITHOUT sin cast the first stone".

and since every human is born with "original sin", and in the eyes of the bible, everybody sins somehow, whether it be taking the lords name in vain, or getting a piercing, or whatever other random thing is condemned by the bible, you're with sin by persocuting somebody who is gay.

why? because you're judging them. you have no right to judge somebody on anything. only god does. so saying that gays are wrong because the bible says so, you're wrong because you're not God who can make the decision saying that they're wrong.

and.. as for this little gem..

You are evil. My pastor says you look like Satan, but not to fear. He says that you may have cancer from no eyebrow hair. Some say to pierce your skin is a sin. You're sinning. You are putting holes in the temple. What if someone put a hole in your house? You look like cow from Hong Kong. My mother is laughing. She says you are very Indian. This is a bad insult in my country. We say Indian are primitive. We do not value a primitive opinion.

Nice try, kid.
I am native indian. not eastern indian.
your christian beliefs killed my people, and yet i do not hold YOU accountable for that.
I am evil for sins far beyond shaving my eyebrows and piercing my face and tattooing my body.
my cancer will come from cigarette smoking, not from shaving my eyebrows.
if somebody put a hole in my house? they're called windows.

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

hi mom!!

i r satan.
i will eat your babies and rub tartar sauce on them for flavor.
mmmmmm.

try again. keep the topic on homosexuality.
not me, and my beliefs, and my own sins.

you're still being unchristianlike.

[Kontroll]

cyberdick, I agrees with the dark homo man. He raises good point, my people are not smart. We chew tobacco of the blue fox guide and smoke the peace pipe till we eat many doritos and twinkies under the harvest moons night. Then we send our men out for a spirit journey, where they learn the ways of the wampum and the white woman. The white woman is a devil temptress with her pink vaginal ways, but she teaches man how to be man of the Iroche tribe. We then go to kill buffalo's in a street full of the white demon, and drink until we gamble. Once we gamble money away to casino, we drink. We then drink. After that we drink. Then we smoke more of peace pipe. Then we drink again and rape until we can no rape more. We then kill white men, and drink, and rape, and gamble.

We no gay.

[cyb3r0ptik]

cyberdick, I agrees with the dark homo man. He raises good point, my people are not smart. We chew tobacco of the blue fox guide and smoke the peace pipe till we eat many doritos and twinkies under the harvest moons night. Then we send our men out for a spirit journey, where they learn the ways of the wampum and the white woman. The white woman is a devil temptress with her pink vaginal ways, but she teaches man how to be man of the Iroche tribe. We then go to kill buffalo's in a street full of the white demon, and drink until we gamble. Once we gamble money away to casino, we drink. We then drink. After that we drink. Then we smoke more of peace pipe. Then we drink again and rape until we can no rape more. We then kill white men, and drink, and rape, and gamble.

We no gay.

uhhhhhh...
aside from that whole thing seeming to be making fun of me, but just not making any sense at all....

i never said you were gay.

[*Uronacid*]

uhhhhhh...
aside from that whole thing seeming to be making fun of me, but just not making any sense at all....

i never said you were gay.

You implied it. This is offensive to me. I cannot believe that you did this. It is because you are not Christian, or it is because you are just a gay? How do you like this? Do you like being called gay. You are gay, and you will burn.

You believe in gravity, but can you see this? You believe in wind, but can you see this. You believe in space, but can you see this? You need faith. You need to see this you gay.

You do not understand. I am not sin. I do not have sin because I am from China. In China we do not believe this is sin.

[MissFits]

Jesus said that you will reap what you sow. Have you hear this? No, I do not think you have. You see the farmer was a man, and he was not gay. If Jesus was not gay then how can't homosexuality be a choice? Amen brother. You need to open your eye to truth of the Book. People will see you and your point of view. They say you are a dumb gay. Now, I try to be serious about things.

I try to love you as a brother in Christ, and you are persecuting me. You are persecuting me for all that has been done at calvary. My pastor has said that this will happen. You should repent of your sin. You are helping others goto burn in fire of hell. Do you want to burn.

Also, you are the one who is ignorant. I said Pastor, and I did not say priest. Learn your school. I goto very good school in Hong Kong, and I am very proud to be in America now. One thing I do not like about America is gay. Homosexual is very wrong here. People are waving rainbow, and rainbow is a sign that God would never flood the earth, but now gay is flooding America. This you cannot deny.

I went to church almost all of my life. I have read what the bible has to say, and I have heard priests use and abuse it to fit what they think is a Christian lifestyle. Homosexuality is not flooding America by any means. It's starting to become more socially acceptable to be gay and that, my friend, is a great thing.

As I said before, God is said to be a powerful man, so let him tell people how to live. If we are wrong he will exact his revenge on his own. I am sure he can do if he could make all of humanity.

I am left to wonder if you are kidding, or if their are really people in the world that are this ignorant.

[*Insurmountable*]

OMFG your ignorant at the fact that you really think hes serious..
Did you happen to miss this post?

ha yea, that's kinda lame
kinda like..
the rest of ur post
i mean this is just dandy and all but i don't see how u can read uronacid's post and think he's being completely serious and get so offended, and yea bla bla bla u said "i am not offended by anything you say to me". yea well the length of ur post makes it seem otherwise

DOES NOBODY KNOW BULLSHIT WHEN THEY READ IT?
this is SO right, he should have armed himself with a real defense on this matter, such as the sexuality of bugs
for the most part, i think it's a learned behavior.
and i don't understand a lot of people(not all) who "come out" and all the sudden act different, in a way that fits more into the gay stereotype of how gay people should act. that's extremely ridiculous to me, i don't see why a gay man would act all that much different than a straight man in normal day to day routines. i know gay guys who u wouldn't know they were gay...and that's how i think it should be. i'm not saying they should hide anything, i just don't think it needs to be thrown in everyones face that OMG THEY'RE GAY. if it's "not a big deal" then why the f**k act like it is. i think i'm off subject, but oh well, i think it's a learned behavior more than anything

Its a choice.
I don't see how the hell it can be determined at birth o_O *baby comes out of vagina in doctors hands* Oh here you go you have a new gay baby boy, congratulations.

[brooklyneast05]

*baby comes out of vagina in doctors hands* Oh here you go you have a new gay baby boy, congratulations.

lmao