America Sucks Options

[ClaudelGFX]

I think every citizen has the right to criticize his / her country afterall, it is your country. However, I don't with when non Belgians (I'll use Belgium because I'm not American) say; I hate Belgium, the weather sucks, the country is boring, my country is better yadi yada. That's a no - no. If you hate it that much, try to do something that could help improve it for you or GTFO.

luvly :)

[jesusisthebestth...]

errrrrrr
i don't really understand what side ur defending
so u think america sucks or u don't think it sucks?
every country has messed up things in it's past

im saying that every country has its good sides and its bad sides...oftentimes, i believe that the bad/evil america has done outweighs the good, but that doesn't mean it sucks entirely. and there are lots of other countries to live in that offer similar/the same "benefits" america does

[brooklyneast05]

im saying that every country has its good sides and its bad sides...oftentimes, i believe that the bad/evil america has done outweighs the good, but that doesn't mean it sucks entirely. and there are lots of other countries to live in that offer similar/the same "benefits" america does

so what country are u gonna go to that has done less "evil" and that still provides the "benefits" that america does

[jesusisthebestth...]

i didn't say anything about more or less evil...and with money/power/privilege one can live anywhere and be just as satisfied as if they lived in america...the point is too many people think america is the best country in the world and the fact is, it just is not. america is a rich man's heaven and a poor man's prison, but since you're probably not poor, you wouldn't understand

[brooklyneast05]

i didn't say anything about more or less evil...and with money/power/privilege one can live anywhere and be just as satisfied as if they lived in america...the point is too many people think america is the best country in the world and the fact is, it just is not. america is a rich man's heaven and a poor man's prison, but since you're probably not poor, you wouldn't understand

how is it a poor man's prison more than any other country in the world?
how many countries have u been to?

[jesusisthebestth...]

several, shall i name them for you? moreover, i am the daughter of foreign born parents and the first child born in america...but like i said, it's apparent that you've never struggled therefore you will never understand the comparison i made, honey.

[brooklyneast05]

several, shall i name them for you? moreover, i am the daughter of foreign born parents and the first child born in america...but like i said, it's apparent that you've never struggled therefore you will never understand the comparison i made, honey.

quit judging me, nothing is apparent since u don't know anything about me

well lets compare the poor in america to the ones in africa and decide which place u'd rather live as a poor person

if i was going to be poor, and i had to choose a country to live in, id choose america

several, shall i name them for you?

yea u should, i asked cause i wondered if u were comparing america to them

[jesusisthebestth...]

quit judging me, nothing is apparent since u don't know anything about me

well lets compare the poor in america to the ones in africa and decide which place u'd rather live as a poor person

if i was going to be poor, and i had to choose a country to live in, id choose america
yea u should, i asked cause i wondered if u were comparing america to them

i suppose when you think of poor people in america you think of tenement buildings or the "projects" but there are poor people in america who live without electricity, healthy drinking water or running water period and they've gone days without eating...and although it's not as extreme as africa, those are the same conditions many africans live through.

and i lived in england and i've lived in jamaica...i've been to france, italy, aruba, canada, bermuda, zimbabwe, ireland, mexico, the dominican republic, haiti, brazil, and antigua...i think thats all...and i'm going to tahiti this christmas...my travel experiences greatly influence my thought, just in case you couldn't tell =]

[brooklyneast05]

i suppose when you think of poor people in america you think of tenement buildings or the "projects" but there are poor people in america who live without electricity, healthy drinking water or running water period and they've gone days without eating...and although it's not as extreme as africa, those are the same conditions many africans live through.

yes there's really poor people in america, but there isn't as many people in this extreme condition as in other countries.

i still wanna know, where would u most want to live if u were a poor person?

[jesusisthebestth...]

i wouldnt want to be poor at all...and i definitely wouldn't want to be poor in america. to be quite frank, america shits on the poor and whether you believe me or not is of your own accord. in none of the countries i've visited are the government officials so against helping those who cannot help themselves.

[*Steven*]

^For the most part it seems America "shits" on the poor who beg instead of going out and trying to do something to better themselves. I know not everyone has the luxury of bettering themselves and begging is the final option, but there are plenty of able-bodied people who can get off their street corner and try to get a job.

[jesusisthebestth...]

steven, i want u 2 tell me what is the point of leaving the street corner, where one might sell drugs or panhandle or sell bootleg videos/CDs for a job where the minimum wage is $5.50 an hour. with $5.50 an hour you cannot pay for health care, save money for a rainy day, afford an apartment, etc. can you please tell where is the point in getting a legal job in america? america shits on anyone who cannot help themselves, that's why the poor pay the most taxes and the rich get tax breaks. but i've never been rich, i don't know how hard that shit may be, but i do know that as a middle-class american citizen who once struggled, that america helps no one. welfare programs have been cut, health care is virtually non existent, gas prices are way too high, homes are going into foreclosure left and right, unemployment rates climb, the number of african americans suffering from HIV/AIDS is growing as we speak, more and more african american men are dropping out of high school...and you're going to tell me that america helps people?

[*Steven*]

HIV/AIDS can be avoided by sanitation/not having sex with everyone.
If they were born into poverty conditions, I don't have much to say on their behalf.
My main gripe is the people who are at the minimum scraping by, and they choose to drop out of high school because they don't think that they have a future in the working world. People who don't try to make something of themselves quite frankly don't have the right to complain about not having money.
Welfare is very much existent. It's very abused as well. I could probably find some charts and statistics on welfare if you'd like.

They don't have to work for 5.50$ / hr. There are a lot of companies who will give you a shot to ear more money (even if it's not a good amount of money) if you prove to be willing to learn, have a good attitude, look smart, and show enthusiasm. A lot of businesses will put you through the training for the job as that's the easy part. The hard part is finding the employee that can and will do the job well. There's also the military. The military is my failsafe. The military houses you, feeds you, trains you, pays you, and gives you something huge to put on your resume. They'll give you a lifetime career. Sure you might get shot at and stuff, but how's that worse than living in nasty areas of town, living under bridges and off street corners?

[brooklyneast05]

i agree with steven, i was referring mostly to the people who don't try

and if they were born into poverty then that sucks, and i agree they should get help, but just because u were born into it isn't a reason to just quit and accept it. my dad was born into poverty, and now he's not, so i think its possible to be done. staying in school would be a good start, u said more and more black men are dropping out of high school. i'm a black man who didn't drop out of high school, that's their own choice, by doing that they are setting themselves up for poverty and not being able to get a good job.

SoEffinMajor i STILL want to know, IF u had to be poor, what country would u want to be poor in

[Flaunted]

Boyfriend recently came back from Japan, and he like always says how America sucks. I would love to move to another country to experience if that statement is true, but I really have no complaints. If you want something to happen, you do it yourself.
Though.. I really want to go to Japan too ):

[*Steven*]

People moving to escape a problem won't solve anything in the long run

[jesusisthebestth...]

SoEffinMajor i STILL want to know, IF u had to be poor, what country would u want to be poor in

i've lived in jamaica and i've spent time visiting jamaica, so if i had 2 be poor i'd live in jamaica...i lived with family members who suffered from poverty in the country and i know one thing is for sure, you don't have to go hungry. u may not have fancy clothes or more than one pair of shoes, but people are always willing to help you out by giving food...u know someone who grows breadfruit, or has a mango tree and they're willing to share with u...in jamaica you aren't treated like a poor person, you're treated like a person who needs help...and there is a big difference

[jesusisthebestth...]

HIV/AIDS can be avoided by sanitation/not having sex with everyone.
If they were born into poverty conditions, I don't have much to say on their behalf.
My main gripe is the people who are at the minimum scraping by, and they choose to drop out of high school because they don't think that they have a future in the working world. People who don't try to make something of themselves quite frankly don't have the right to complain about not having money.
Welfare is very much existent. It's very abused as well. I could probably find some charts and statistics on welfare if you'd like.

They don't have to work for 5.50$ / hr. There are a lot of companies who will give you a shot to ear more money (even if it's not a good amount of money) if you prove to be willing to learn, have a good attitude, look smart, and show enthusiasm. A lot of businesses will put you through the training for the job as that's the easy part. The hard part is finding the employee that can and will do the job well. There's also the military. The military is my failsafe. The military houses you, feeds you, trains you, pays you, and gives you something huge to put on your resume. They'll give you a lifetime career. Sure you might get shot at and stuff, but how's that worse than living in nasty areas of town, living under bridges and off street corners?

1. yes, HIV/AIDS can be prevented by not fostering in promiscuity, however it can also be prevented by using condoms...which aren't provided for free because there aren't many free clinics anymore...reagan cut that

2. poverty can be reversed with proper education, unfortunately many whites fled the city forcing african americans into these areas...businessmen/women left because they didn't want to serve african american communities. as a result these african american communities became what we know as, impoverished areas. unfortunately, many of these impoverished areas do not offer adequate schooling (i.e., schools in washington, d.c. and baltimore, maryland)

3. on the welfare, could you please find some statistics for me, because it is very hard for women to get welfare, well, minority women that is. these women have to have a certain number of children before they can receive a decent amount of state aid. WIC doesn't cover the cost of several items, for example, it covers milk, chicken, bread, but not fruits and vegetables or toilet tissue. so, i'm supposed to drink the milk, but what do wipe myself with when i have to urinate? i'm supposed to eat the ground beef, but what am i supposed to wipe myself with when i have to shit? moreover, oftentimes you have to find a job in a certain number of weeks, but what if they aren't hiring in your neighborhood? what if you cannot get transportation to where they're hiring? what if you cannot afford to take the bus or the bus doesn't go to where jobs are located?

3. nobody is willing to give anyone without proper education and credentials a job paying more than minimum wage, no matter how hard they work. that's the importance of getting an education. if i could get a decent paying job without a college education, do you honestly think i'd be saving money for my college tuition this semester? this is america, remember?

4. going to the military isn't an option for everyone. you have to pass tests, physical and educational, to make it into the military. the military doesn't except every tom, dick and harry's application. and the military is scary for many individuals, sometimes it's better to suffer where you are than to go somewhere else and suffer, because at least you know what the suffering is like at home. you understand?

[brooklyneast05]

i've lived in jamaica and i've spent time visiting jamaica, so if i had 2 be poor i'd live in jamaica...i lived with family members who suffered from poverty in the country and i know one thing is for sure, you don't have to go hungry. u may not have fancy clothes or more than one pair of shoes, but people are always willing to help you out by giving food...u know someone who grows breadfruit, or has a mango tree and they're willing to share with u...in jamaica you aren't treated like a poor person, you're treated like a person who needs help...and there is a big difference

people can get free food at shelters too

3. nobody is willing to give anyone without proper education and credentials a job paying more than minimum wage, no matter how hard they work. this is america, remember?

wouldn't most people would get a raise before long and they wouldn't make minimum wage anymore? u know when u drop out of high school that this is how it works and ur going to have a harder time

[jesusisthebestth...]

people can get free food at shelters too
wouldn't most people would get a raise before long and they wouldn't make minimum wage anymore? u know when u drop out of high school that this is how it works and ur going to have a harder time

1. have u ever been in a shelter? people looking down on you, treating you like your less than human? have you ever eaten at a shelter? do you know what that shit tastes like? how many year round shelters do you know of? people don't just eat on thanksgiving and christmas, ya know?

2. u don't know what it's going to be like later on if you're poor...you just want to leave where you are at that moment...and you're willing to do whatever you have to do to get out that space...you're not thinking about tomorrow...f**k tomorrow, when you don't know what you're going to eat today...

3. do you realize how long it takes to get a raise, at any job? you can't be serious...honestly, you just cant be

[brooklyneast05]

1. yes i've been in shelters. do people look down on u? sure they do, but who cares, id rather have people looking down on me than starving. honestly i think treating someone less that human would be leaving them on the street to starve. does the food taste good? no, but once again, would u rather starve, ur poor, u arent getting any 5 star meal, take it or leave it. there's numerous year round shelters in new york, and i really can't base my opinion off any other city, im just talking about where im from. so if there isnt in ur city, that sucks, and i agree they should do something about it.

2. we've heard since we started school not to drop out, that a high school diploma gets u better jobs, ect ect ect. unless u have no common sense then u know that going out into the working world with not even a high school diploma is going to be HARD. if u dont consider tomorrow before u drop out of school that's kinda ur own fault.

3. i got a raise at mine within two months. so i don't know

[*karmakiller*]

There's lots of people that bitch in this country, but if you're going to bitch about how much this place sucks you should at least make an effort. Then you don't look like a complete a-hole... then you can say "Hey, poverty's a problem, but I'm working." or "I hate the president and I hate that our vote doesn't count, but I voted anyways." at least make an effort. What bugs me, is when people don't work and expect to be able to live off the government. American's have it pretty easy, in my opinion. The world's been going to hell for a long time, there's been lots of bad things in the past, and there are going to be bad things in the future but we've still had good things come from it.

I'm all for people voicing their opinions about the government, the war, the healthcare, etc. but don't be hypocritical about it.

[weed]

Should people who think America sucks so bad stay in America? I personally think that if you hate the country so much, and all you do is bitch and moan about it, then you should pack yo bags :)

That or try to do something about it.

dsjfgsadfg AHH i tottally think the same but sometimes people have no other option but to stay because "america may suck but ___ isnt any better" ive heard that from alot of people.

[*Sandraaa*]

People moving to escape a problem won't solve anything in the long run

Wrong. Moving might help you. What about immigrants from extremely poor countries who move overseas for a better life?

[*Steven*]

Wrong. Moving might help you. What about immigrants from extremely poor countries who move overseas for a better life?

I should have worded that differently. If everyone were to move from America and America were to become very insignificant on the face of the Earth, then the problem would just spread to wherever the people flocked to, and there would be a new bad guy.